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Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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  • seniorjoseseniorjose Posts: 277
    Correction: I put Michelin Microedge 225/60/16 on my Accord V4 last fall...work great and their wet/snow handling is super. These tires are directional so make sure your local mechanics can read a direction arrow on the tires. Got them at Sears...warranty is 80,000 miles. But then I am old and cautious about tires and other safety parts.
  • bimmer4mebimmer4me Posts: 266
    If I recall, you purchased your 03 Accord from an estate sale. Prior to the purchase, I believe you said it sat in a garage for over 2 years, not driven. Perhaps the seals on the A/C compressor dried out and is why it failed prematurely?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Keep in mind, also, that you had a first year model, which for all car companies are known as their most problematic (not all the bugs worked out). The same is true for basically every car company (like the new 2007 Camry having total transmission failures on some of its V-6 cars).
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Maybe the V6 Accord is a totally different animal (I doubt it), but my 03 Sedan is trouble free. Not even a rattle.
  • seniorjoseseniorjose Posts: 277
    AC is really cold on my 05 Accord Black leather interior I4..putting AC on LO will freeze orange juice. You probably have a small leak in your system, take it to your dealoer for repairs
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,631
    It was the other guy with the problem!

    Mine does seem like it would chill beer, although if the car is out in the sun (so really hot inside) it deos take a while to get the interior cooled down, with all that black leather holding onto the heat. But, if it is in the garage, it stays quite chilly from the beginning.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,631
    had my first oil change done (just over 5 months, at about 4,600 miles). A whopping $21.40 total, including tax, thanks to the coupon from Owners Link. And it wasn't even from that dealer!

    Nice service too. In and out in 40 minutes (even at 9:00 in the morning, so peak time for drop offs and waiters), plus free coffee, donuts and muffins.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • medicmelmedicmel Posts: 8
    I've done all the tricks I know. On the East Coast its been in the 90's with 60% humidity. I have no knob to turn. On my car you have a red or blue button to adjust the temperature. The display is electronic. Even if I put it on LO it still does not cool to where I would like it. I am a fan of sub arctic temps! Also with this system it wont let you put it on recirculate if the temperature is not hot enough. I believe it all goes back to the new technology they are using which stinks. In the morning when its some what cool the AC will freeze you out. But after sitting in the sun all day and driving home it never cools down to my comfort zone. I also leave it on automatic for the most part but I have occassionaly tried to override it manually but no luck. Went to the dealer today for the oil change @ 41,500 and they found the rear brakes 1mm and the rotors need turned. What I thought would be a cheap in and out service cost me $319.00. By the way I did purchase an extended warranty form a private company. Warranty direct. Thanks for the suggestions.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    You make a good point for this particular vehicle, but that would not account for the back order of AC compressors, during the 2005 Summer, for the four cylinder 2003 Accord. I am not trying to destroy the Honda image, but rather, I think that if the Engineering / Management team of Honda, would take care of the so called little issues, the Honda corporation would have a outstanding product. I just returned from a road trip to Gettysburg PA., and I was cruising at 65 mph most of the time. The AC system was outstanding! The acceleration was very good both from a dead stop, and passing other vehicles on the highway. I could easily jump from 65 mph to 80mph in a few seconds to pass a vehicle. I am very happy with the performance of the vehicle, and the quality of service that I receive from the dealer. Looking into the future, I would like to see Honda offer an E85 compatible engine in the Accord and / or a diesel engine in the Accord. I would also like these engines to be four,(4), cylinder units. GM is producting 400,000 E85 compatible cars in 2006, so it is obvious that this fuel is a reality in the near future. As a consumer, I have to consider this fact for my next vehicle. I would like to stay with Honda for my second vehicle, but I have not seen any movement on the part of the Honda Corp in the area of diesels and / or E85 engines in the United States. Once the E85 fuel hits the market place, there might be a price difference between conventional gasoline and E85, or there might be an allocation problem getting conventional gasoline once E85 is being stocked by the local gas stations. I want the flexibility of being able to purchase either gasoline or E85. At the present time, the only passenger car that offers this opition is the Chevrolet Impala with the 3.5 V6 engine. What is Honda waiting for with regards to E85? ----- Best regards. ----- Dwayne
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Posts: 818
    I have an '04 EX I4 Navi and have had no problems with the A/C keeping up with hot days.

    One suggestion, do you have the drivers and passengers temp setting set the same? I'm guessing that Honda (and anyone else) that has dual climate controls actually adds heat to the side with the higher temperature, not adding more cooling to the side with the lower temperature. Like I said I'm guessing, but throttling the heat is alot easier then throttling the cooling. So if you want the coldest output, make sure the temp is equal on both sides.

    Other then that, maybe you do have something wrong with your system.

    The one thing I miss on my '04 that my old '88 has is a sightglass in the A/C system. It is a quick way to check the refrigerant level in the system.

    Mrbill
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    Honda is supposed to start selling diesel engine cars in the near future (2008 or 2010). And just because Chevy is making E85 cars, doesn't mean it's a good idea (right now). GM is not exactly the company others want to copy.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    If the "Auto" button is off, on the climate control, you should be able to control fan speed and recirculate like you want. If you can't something is wrong with it.
  • dhoffdhoff Posts: 282
    Well, I may have thrown in an unintentional red herring in my original post. When I wrote 4 cylinder "automatic" I meant the transmission, not the climate control. Oops. I never thought of that.

    Be that as it may, my a/c would never be considered cold enough to chill beer (for some reason I love the sound of that example...) I will have to take it it. Hope I can get a warm day to do so.

    Dave
  • joonjoon Posts: 121
    dhoff,

    I have an '05 EX 4cyl (no leather) with roughly 20k miles and I too don't feel my A/C is cooling my car adaquately. I plan to have Honda take a look at it in my next oil change and will post what I find out. I would appreciate it if you could do the same.

    Joon
  • ezshift5ezshift5 West coastPosts: 855
    ...a/c would never be considered cold enough to chill beer (for some reason I love the sound of that example...)


    ......on a hot day, beer over OJ for this sailor.........

    However, de guispitus non-desputandum prevails.........


    ...ez....
  • yankeryanker Posts: 156
    I too had the radio replaced because the message thing went out. I was told I was not the only one. my car had36500 miles and they the (dealer) were most helpful. I can't complain at all. I don't have an extended warranty but I think the observation that new model might bring some problems is a valid one. Honda on the whole should be trouble free. I have also had a new catalytic converter and the back brakes replaced . The dealer has been outstanding. For info on a new model that is troublesome to some degree look at the new Avalon
  • tygerleotygerleo Posts: 16
    What you are doing is very interesting, please let us know how it works out. But I think you may also consider AVON Tech m550, Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S and Yokohama. In my view the tires you choose may be too good for Accord, they are for the high perform sport sedan. BTW, according to the forum at Tirerack, ContiExtreme Contact has very short life due to its relatively soft compound.

    I have a 2003 LX V6, which has the same size of tire like yours, and I will look for a new tire soon. I have no plan to change the rim, I think I will buy Bridgestone G009, or Re960 A/S, which is new product. Both of them is relative cheap, compared with OEM Michelin MXV4, which has very poor wet and snow traction.
  • tygerleotygerleo Posts: 16
    I agree with your point (1) about the visibility. It is the common problem for today's car design. It needs have aerodymic and crash worthiness, so car makers come with design that has narrow angle and large windshield pillar. as matter of fact, the British car magazine, The Car or EVO ( I forgot which one), also pointed out this problem few months ago. They compared a 2005 Mercedes CLK and 85 BMW 528i. The old BMW has a much better view at the intersection than the modern Mercedes.

    I have 2003 LX V6 with extended warranty. It is just out the regular warranty few moths ago. In the three years I have it, it has a list of problem2:
    (1) Engine knocking: it takes Honda several time to fix the problem, including re programming ECM.
    (2) Radio Light: I also have the problem with the radio light, that ended up to replace whole unit.
    (3) Front Brake: When the car was in the 30K service, the dealer indicated the both front brake pad, the rotor need to be replaced, after I complained that the brake made some noise when the car is cold. I called Honda complain about the rotor replacement, they in turn call my local Honda dealer, they replace the front brake pads for free, and claimed the rotors were still in good shape. I later checked the rotor myself, they still have 10 to 12 MM thick. Overall, I believe the brake for the Honda is not sufficient.
    (4) Dash Light: My dash light sometime behaves strangely, it turns bright and dim without any reason. It often happens when it rains during the date time, I turn on the headlight, it will dim the dashlight a bit by design, but since it is still a date time, so the dash light will turn bright and then dim upon the ambient sunlight. It is annoying. Again the dealer is not able to find the problem, so it is not the problem for them.

    Other complains for this car are
    (1)Wind Noise: I can not drive the car with the front window open on the highway, the noise is just too loud. Again this is the problem for modern car, the aerodymic design creates a large Eddy current around the front widow. And even with widow close, the wind noise is noticeable, it is not as quite as the Camry.
    (2) Road Noise: Its suspension is very busy and noise.
    (3) Front Seat: it is not very comfortable for long trip. I used to own an 1992 Integra, other Honda product, it had a very comfortable front seat.
    (4) Back Seat: It has not slit fold-down. I never understand why Honda does not offer this feature, I am even willing to pay extra for this feature.
    (5) Glove Box: It can not close tightly, the light can be seen at night, the dealer has to install a seal on it, the seal is part of the original design.
    (6) Dash Board: The once famous one-piece dash board was replaced with a multi-piece one, it looks cheap.
    (7) Right Front Wheel: For some reason, my front right wheel keeps hitting curb. I think it is sometime to do with the interior design, it causes the drive mis-judging the curb from the driver seat. I notice a few same model of Accord has the same problem.

    Overall I will only give this car 7/10 scale.
  • danxpdanxp Posts: 35
    is it harmful to the engine or transmission in any way if i put the transmission into neutral while traveling at 60 mph downhill? sometimes the car seems to slow down when going downhill and i don't even hit the gas or brake... i put it into neutral and it resumes its speed while revving at around 1k or lower...

    is this recommended?

    i imagine putting it back into D from N at 60mph can't be too good either, huh?

    thanks for any insight...
  • accord6mtaccord6mt Posts: 53
    The first question in my mind is: Why would you do such a thing? and do you do it often? Is it because you don't like the car slowing down while traveling down a hill when you're in "D?"

    I believe it's important to say that it can't be all that safe to ride down a hill without the car "in gear" meaning, the transmission is in "D." What if, for some reason, you need to use the gas to accelerate and quickly change lanes?

    That said, I also believe automatic transmissions are designed to drive in "D" during almost all normal driving. I don't know the exact details, but engaging your transmission from Neutral to "D" while traveling at a decent clip can put certain amounts of stress on parts of the transmission, and doing this repeatedly throughout the life of your car will probably damage your transmission. Perhaps someone else can post a more detailed explanation.

    In short, I believe:
    1) It's unsafe to drive at 60 mph while in Neutral, regardless of going uphill or downhill.
    2) You're probably causing damage to parts of your transmission by doing this and chances are, if you're trying to save on gas by coasting down a hill, you really aren't saving much. Oh, and make sure your car is in "D" and not "D3." That might explain the slowing of your car.

    Best of luck!
  • danxpdanxp Posts: 35
    i suspected this was probably not the best thing for the car... it wasn't too smooth when shifting back to D from N... i'm just used to driving a stick and when it came to stretches of road where acceleration was not required, i would let it coast in neutral... or is that a bad idea too?

    as for the car slowing down, i always check and it's not in D3... it always seems to slow down just a bit annoyingly... could this be a problem with the tranny or something or just a "feature"?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Check your RPMs at that 60MPH...they should be right around 2,000 RPM unless your "grade-logic control" is holding a lower gear. This "feature" is made to hold a lower gear up and down hills to prevent excessive speed build-up down a hill (it will usually hold up to 3k RPM going downhill before going into higher gear when coasting down. Going uphill (a long grade at 35+ MPH or so), your car will likely hold in third gear, until you finish the grade or reach a high-enough speed (something like 55-60MPH) for the car to feel confident that it won't have to "Hunt" gears.time you go down that big hill, and let us know what the RPMs are. PLEASE don't go into "N" at speed anymore, it isn't safe, or good for your transmission.

    Check the RPM of your car in "D" next time, and get back to us.
  • ar39ar39 Posts: 61
    This evening a rock chipped my car's windshield. There is a star shaped crack & flake on the inside of the glass. The chip is slightly less than a penny's diameter. I've options of replacing the glass for $300+ or repairing the crack with resin for $60. I'm not sure how the finish would be after the repair because this is the first time I'm having glass trouble. What do you guys think about the repair?
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I actually have a "star" from a rock hitting my windshield in my red Accord when it was two weeks old. Now, it's 10 1/2 years old (1996 model, chipped in Dec. 1995), and has not changed at all; no cracks, no splits. Yes, I have several other windshield chips now, but none that have cracked or caused me concern.

    If money is an issue, maybe wait and see if anything happens with it. My car has been driven 160,000 miles since that "star" happened, and I've not spent a dime on it. No cracks at all!
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Posts: 490
    You probably will not be satisfied with the resign fill. A hazy spot will still be visible after the repair.

    Also, if you use your insurance to cover the damage, maje sure the glass shop uses an OEM Honda windshield. They will subsitute with a cheaper windshield if you do not specify.
  • jhinscjhinsc Posts: 399
    I would like to hear other owner's comments on their oil change interval. I called my local dealer to schedule service since my Maintenance Minder indicated 10% at 7,100 miles, with the code B1 indicated. The service tech told me I was way over my miles for the first oil change since it should be done every 3,750 miles. He goes into his speech about how difficult it is to read the manual, so they've prepared an "easy-to-read" maintenance guide for their customers. I responded that the manual was very clear and actually simple to understand - just let the maintenance minder tell you when service is needed. He then stated that the I4 can go 5,000 miles between oil changes, but the recommend interval for the V6 is 3,750 miles and that is what they will put on the sticker applied to the inside windshield. I said "whatever" as I was getting pretty annoyed by his apparent persistent ignorance.

    How are others handling their maintenance? Please, no lectures about how oil should be changed every 3k miles - it's overkill and I've heard enough of that. :shades:
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    The cost of the average oil and filter change at the Honda dealer is about $23.00 dollars. At this price it is minor issue with regards to the operating cost of the vehicle. At 3,000 mile intervals it is costing 0.0076666 per mile. At 5,000 mile intervals it is costing 0.0046 per mile. At 10,000 mile intervals it is costing 0.0023 per mile. I have it changed by the dealer at 3,000 miles. I have a service appointment every eight weeks reserved at the dealer for this purpose. I am in and out of the dealership in less than 30 minutes, and I get to say "hello" to the Service Manager and the Service Writer. (These are good people to have on your side when issues arise with your vehicle and you need service ASAP!)----- Pick your own service interval and enjoy your new vehicle. Life is too short to worry about the small stuff! ---- Best regards. ---Dwayne ;)
  • ar39ar39 Posts: 61
    I inquired with a 2 Honda dealers. One said they would have to order the windshield from a glass retailer & the other wouldnt do the glass work. I guess there's no OEM glass although the name Honda is printed on the glass.

    I'm very particular about the looks of the car & dont mind the $300+ replacement. However, my insurance will take care of the cost to repair without the deductible. I hope my next premium wouldnt go up!

    BTW, I drove the car to work today & the crack has widened a bit.
  • ar39ar39 Posts: 61
    I got to take back my statement about Honda OEM windshield. I contacted another dealer & he quoted $639, labor included, for the OEM part replacement. I believe his previous customers wouldnt pay that high & went with a non OEM which costed $279 for the complete job.

    What are your views on Safelite glass? Their marketing is pretty impressive & so is their response to my queries!

    Thanks!
  • nwalker1nwalker1 Posts: 17
    The radio going out in a Honda is normal for our family. My wife's 1993 Honda Accord EX sedan had the radio go out and the same for her 1998 EX-L V6 Accord Coupe. So far the 2005 Accord sedan EX-L-Nav has been flawless...the A/C works great....but I'll keep my fingers crossed on the radio...(especially wit the Nav). This time we bought the extended warranty. Hope this helps.
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