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Honda Civic vs Mazda3

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  • azr4elazr4el Posts: 2
    Granted both of these cars are not up to par with the reliabilities of the Civic or Corolla but I feel like getting a car that will stand out (although i might regret it in the long run when my wallet gets hit hard with gas prices). I think I can get either car for about the same price with similar options. Any thoughts ?
  • bamacarbamacar Posts: 749
    Not sure about the Mitsubishi as they haven't had excellent reliability in a while, but Consumer Reports puts the Mazda 3 in the best reliability category which should be very comparable to a Civic or Corolla. CR doesn't have enough data to rate the reliability of the Lancer yet.

    People seem to just blindly assume other manufacturers can't have a car equal in reliability to a Honda or Toyota.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,631
    CR doesn't have enough data to rate the Corolla for reliability, either. In their July issue they declined to put "Recommended" on the Corolla, since it's a new design. I think CR learned something from their experience with the 2007 Camry V6.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The Corolla is a new design?

    :P
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,631
    For 2009, yes. New exterior, interior, suspension, and 1.8L engine--all different from the 2003-8 Corolla.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Give me some credit, backy, I know that. I may have been a little tongue-in-cheek with that one. ;)

    I must admit, I knew the 1.8L had a small power bump, but didn't know it was really "different." It sure sounded similar to the old Corolla when riding in a Scion xD.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,631
    Toyota claims the 1.8L is "all new." You can take it up with them if you don't agree.

    Anyway, back to the topic.... was just in my local Mazda dealer for some service on my MPV. Sat in the 2008 Mazda3i Touring VE. Very sharp car, about $18,150 with AT. A sales rep asked me how I liked it. I told him I'd like it a lot better if it had ESC. (I could have also told him the rear seat is a big tight, but I decided not to get into a lengthy discussion with him.) He said the Mazda3s has ESC. I replied that I liked the 3i for its FE and price, and didn't need the additional power of the 3s. He said, "It's all about choices, isn't it?" Yes, it is. So while I like a lot of things about the Civic and Mazda3, with the Civic having a slight advantage overall because of its exceptional crash test scores for the class, neither is my top choice in this class.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    The Mazda 3s has this nailed, a real blast to drive. Plenty of power when needed while displaying buttoned down road manners in the twisties. I look forward to driving the wife's 3s after getting out of my Civic for the true exhilaration the 3s provides. Love the Civic for my everyday economical driving but when I feel the need for speed, it's the 3s hands down. Planning a trip to Orlando in August to secure housing for my middle girl who will be an intern at Epcot for six months starting in January, and have already told the wife I want to take her Mazda on the drive up. The impeccable road handling coupled with the power of the 2.3 engine make this a car that begs to be driven on the turnpike...fast! Having four wheel disc brakes makes for competent stopping power in all situations.
    Glad we have both cars for my driving Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde persona. Haven't really enjoyed driving since my truck accident 3 years ago but am finally getting back my love of driving. It'll be nice to have the three and a half hour drive up to Orlando on the wide open turnpike and the Mazda 3s is just the car to do it in. We tossed around the idea of renting a car but decided it best to just drive the 3 instead. Can spend an extra day there for the same $ we'd have spent on the week rental.
    Zoom Zoom!

    The Sandman :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,631
    With gas at $4 per, I'm finding I feel the need for speed a lot less than I used to. ;)

    Now I would think that a car like the Mazda3 would be at its best in places with hills and twisties, not on the flat turnpikes of Florida. For that, I'd want something with a quiet, smooth ride more than anything. But that's me.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Since putting on the Traction T/A's last year, she drives quite smoothly and quietly. Driving with 3 adults and the luggage for the 5 of us, I really want the extra power of the 2.3 engine if needed. The wife and one daughter will be taking the train up a day earlier, as we can't fit all 5 and the needed luggage in either of our cars. Thus, the only drawback for having the econoboxes we both drive. We only need a larger car a few times a year, this being one of those times. but since we haven't taken a full family vacation since 2000, we'll make due.
    Once your kids get in their 20's, they tend to shun family vacations. I've made this one mandatory as we all need to reconnect as a family since we went through a real rough patch after my accident. Besides, it'll be fun.
    Did price out renting a Camry size car for the week, and we just decided to take the Mazda instead. Besides, it hasn't been on a road trip in almost 18 months...time to blow that engine out a bit!

    The Sandman :)
  • sonnyrockersonnyrocker Posts: 126
    It was down to the Civic and Mazda3 for me...and I picked Mazda over Civic for the same reasons you just mentioned. I just don't like the look of the new Civic at all. Honda dealer didn't seem to want my business as bad as Mazda, their loss. This is the 2nd time I wanted a Civic and got the "take it or leave it" from Honda dealer, too bad. And you get more for the money by buying a Mazda3. The 3s also have high resale values.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    And you get more for the money by buying a Mazda3

    Good point.

    I heard that Honda was delaying the announcement or a new Civic to better equip it to compete with the current segment leaders. In recent years, the competition has caught up to and passed the Civic as far as content goes.

    Message to Honda: When Kia is offering much more of a car at a lower price, you have a problem.
  • ecofunecofun Posts: 22
    edited June 2010
    Have not posted since I got my last 3 in 2007. It was a super car. I should note the my other two cars are Hondas. My 2007 3gt manual cost my $0 to operate except oil and filter for 60,000 miles with the exception of a 30,000 mile routine service and new tires. This car was a joy to drive. I much prefer the seats in this car vs my 2004 Honda EXV6. By the way, these hondas are not the only two I've owned...4 in total. While I love the reliability of the Hondas, they are far from perfect. I have sunk plenty of money into them. But at least for 63,521 miles, my 07 Mazda 3 was flawless.

    I took it in for an oil change a few weeks ago and walked out with my new 2010...same model with all the bells and whistles. My first impression is that IT IS a significantly better car. It feels more expensive, better insulated, and handles better. And it's quicker. There is nothing more you could ask of this car within reason. I would not hesitate to recommend either my old or new model 3 over the Civic. Reliability should not be an issue. Period. Unless you have owned both, Civic owners should no longer kid themselves that they have the more reliable car. If you have been on the fence about a 3 based on reliability, go buy one now while 0% financing is in effect.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    It's been years since I owned a Honda, but, my family still has a couple. My brother has a 2004 Accord EX-L V6 with 110,000 on it (inherited from my father at 75,000) and outside if routine maintenance, has been pretty good. I do believe my father had a vapor lock issue when it would not start and there was a tranny issue as well.

    Civic's are very good cars. I have no reason to talk bad about them other then their lack of sportiness and content offered.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,030
    My 2007 MS3 has been faultless since it needed a new LF strut and turbo at around 25,000 miles. It now has over 60,000 miles on it and I think I'll fit some Bilsteins, a Hypertech flash, and some track wheels and tires. That should keep me amused for at least a couple of years. That said, I wouldn't consider a new MS3. It's gained weight and it's not available in Grand Touring trim. I'm not saying it's a bad car, but it doesn't make the cut for me.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Im choosing whether or not to get a Mazda3 or a Civic. Both would be 2013. I like the Mazda cause it's a lot faster than the Civic, (its also a 6-speed), but shifting on it is also a lot harder than the civic. Mainly, I'm just looking for a fast car that would be good for drifting. I'd love to hear all of your comments.

    Also, which is more comfortable interior wise? Seats, dash, etc.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,631
    I don't agree with you that the Mazda3 6MT is a lot harder to shift than the Civic. I think the Mazda3's stick is very easy and fun to shift.

    My preference is the Mazda3, but I would definitely go for the all-new 2014 Mazda3 now that it's out, as it has an improved interior, improved fuel economy, etc. Looks a lot better too, IMO. Will cost a little more than a left-over 2013, but if you want to go that route, why not save a LOT of money and get a slightly-used (maybe CPO) 2012 Mazda3?
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