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Nissan Titan vs Chevy Silverado

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  • mick14mick14 Posts: 30
    Again, that's not on track. I personally hold a high standard to my vehicle but alas, it has never failed me.If it did, I would have asked for a new vehicle early on and not waited for 24K or extended the warranty. My dealer also did me a solid on everything else including warranty work.
    Options, Nissan needs options for those who tow large amounts of tonnage and such. Again, they need to incorporate a Nissan Diesel capable of large towing capacity- for those who do not like the gas version.
  • I would have asked for a new vehicle early on and not waited for 24K or extended the warranty.

    Your discussion is off topic, in this Nissan versus Chevy forum. However, unfortunately, an extended warranty does not help a lemon vehicle, and you can't just ask for a new vehicle, lemon laws states you have to give the manufacturer multiple repair attempts, most states require 3 or 4 attempts in order to be ruled a lemon, for the same problem, in my case that occurred at 24000 miles.
  • mick14mick14 Posts: 30
    That being said, let's get on to Chevy vs. Nissan, How is it in this test did Nissan put down more RWHP that Chevy? Here is the link:
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=119281
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Probably due to the higher intial HP or the driveline loss of the chevy v. the driveline loss being less on the Titan?

    I'm in this debate right now. Tomorrow I will see how the Armada tows the 9000lb Cigarette Boat I bought. If it doesn't tow it to my liking, then I'll be doing a hard comparison of the Armada to a Sierra 2500HD with Isuzu Diesel Engine....

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,724
    I don't know anything about that Mike, but I do know Toyota is about to introduce their very own 4.5L V8 diesel in the Aussie Land Cruiser 70-series.

    Here's a blog entry I put up on Straightline last month on this engine.

    http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2259

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
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    The Armada towed the Cig Boat without a problem at 65mph on the NJTP and the GSP today about 25 miles or so. Very impressed felt lighter than the 22ft boat from last year in terms of sway.

    -Mike
  • mick14mick14 Posts: 30
    That is flippin' awesome!!!!!!!!!! I tow a friend's boat too sometimes for him but not anywhere near 9500 lbs. I think I tow 6500-7000 or so. I thought you could do it.

    :shades:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    No doubt that a Diesel would get better milage towing it, but the 5.6L engine in the Titan/Armada was real strong. There was a long incline on the NJTP over the Newark Bay Bridge, thought it would be killer. Trans dropped down to 3rd but didn't wind out to real high rpms. I'm guessing that the triple axle trailer made a big difference in that it carried most of the weight and kept the tounge at the perfect weight so as not to cause the rear of the truck to be too heavy or too light.

    -mike
  • haropharop Posts: 59
    Thats nice to know and looks great :)
    Just curious... Did you used "tow mode"?

    -haro
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yeah I always use tow mode when towing, not sure what it does, if anything. I believe it keeps you in gears longer rather than hunting around. We'll see how it does when it's got fuel and some gear in it.

    -mike
  • Your right people can just look at the consumer report, and not just base a decision on my experience:

    Nissan's first entry into the full-sized truck category holds its own against the competition. It has an impressively large cabin, is relatively agile, has a fairly comfortable ride, and has a very smooth transmission. Safety features include optional electronic stability control and curtain air bags. The cargo bed of the crew cab is fairly small compared with the competition, and payload capacity is a meager 1,105 pounds. The Titan's muscular V8 provides strong acceleration, but the constant engine and exhaust noise can become tiresome. The truck gets a facelift for 2007. Reliability has been well below average. (SOURCE MSN: Autos/Consumer Reports Summary)

    Also, staying on topic the reliability rating for the Chevy 2500HD is much higher. So bottomline, on average, in term of reliability your better off with the 2500HD, or any other truck for that matter, since TITAN is rated the lowest in reliability category.
  • mick14mick14 Posts: 30
    Your OFF TOPIC AGAIN- people can just look at the consumer report, and base a decision on our positive experiences:

    Last time we compared full-size pickups, in January 2004, the TITAN won. Since then, every other truck here has been redesigned. No matter — the TITAN retains its title. At the dragstrip, with 1000 pounds in the bed, the TITAN crossed the quarter-mile mark two-hundredths of a second after the rocket-sled Tundra. Though the Tundra has 64 more horsepower, the Titan weighs less. It's the lightest truck here, which helped its fuel economy numbers. The TITAN was midpack in all our handling tests, even though it had the tallest tires with the most aggressive off-road biased tread. Our test TITAN is the best equipped for going off-road; in fact, it was the best in the dirt and the only truck here to come with a pushbutton locking rear differential. The TITAN also has the most useful bed of the group, with huge, movable tiedown cleats, a bed liner and a unique bedside lockbox. Inside, the TITAN is roomy and comfortable, rivaling the limousine-like Tundra for rear-seat legroom. The only strike against the Nissan is the use of hard and cheap-looking interior plastics. Nonetheless, each night every tester wanted to drive the Titan back to the hotel. Nuff said. :)
  • Your OFF TOPIC AGAIN (Mick14) Since when is the comparison of the consumer reports reliability of the Nissan Titan versus the Chevy Silverado in a Nissan versus Chevy Silverado forum off topic.

    Last time we compared full-size pickups, in January 2004, the TITAN won (Mick14) How did you compare reliability of the Nissan Titan versus other trucks in January 2004, since it debuted in 2004, and it takes time, in years, to rate reliability? You should have looked at the reference before posting a reply. How did the testers drivers determine reliability? The consumer reports reference clearly states how they determine reliability ratings.

    The only strike against the Nissan is the use of hard and cheap-looking interior plastics. (Mick14) Not true, after testing reliability the consumer report wrote the following about Nissan Titans: Reliability has been well below average (SOURCE MSN: Autos/ Consumer Reports). Or you can check out the previous post for the article.

    Nonetheless, each night every tester wanted to drive the Titan back to the hotel (Mick14). Are they driving the Titan to the hotel because they couldn't make it home?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Let's leave CR out of this, perhaps we have some review in Edmunds you can quote?

    -mike
  • mick14mick14 Posts: 30
    Edmunds did a long term review of the Titan:

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=101898

    As well as the new model Titan:

    http://www.edmunds.com/nissan/titan/2007/review.html

    I wish they would do a test now for the 2004 with more than 24K. Mine has 36K and is running as smooth and powerful as ever!!!
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Mick14, I agree with you, my 2004 Armada has 38k miles and is running like a top, 20k+ of those miles are towing at least 6,000lbs too!

    -mike
  • After reading razorthunder's experiences, it shows Nissan has a strange policy on it's lemons. My brother had a heck of a time with his 350Z and threatened a law suit when Nissan finally bought it back. I think Nissan made great strides in the quality of it's vehicles. But like Mick14 said, some vehicles turn out to have problems. Obviously Nissan is having a hard time owning up to this and tries to sweep it's lemons under the carpet instead of doing the right thing the first time and owning up to it's mistakes. Come on Carlos G.!! Make your company the star it could be!
  • After reading razorthunder's experiences, it shows Nissan has a strange policy on it's lemons. My brother had a heck of a time with his 350Z and threatened a law suit when Nissan finally bought it back. I think Nissan made great strides in the quality of it's vehicles. But like Mick14 said, some vehicles turn out to have problems. Obviously Nissan is having a hard time owning up to this and tries to sweep it's lemons under the carpet instead of doing the right thing the first time and owning up to it's mistakes. Come on Carlos G.!! Make your company the star it could be!
  • After reading razorthunder's experiences, it shows Nissan has a strange policy on it's lemons. My brother had a heck of a time with his 350Z and threatened a law suit when Nissan finally bought it back. I think Nissan made great strides in the quality of it's vehicles. But like Mick14 said, some vehicles turn out to have problems. Obviously Nissan is having a hard time owning up to this and tries to sweep it's lemons under the carpet instead of doing the right thing the first time and owning up to it's mistakes. Come on Carlos G.!! Make your company the star it could be!
  • wow....i guess i was a buzz kill to this forum. what happened paisan? any nissan reps want to comment?
  • I think Carlos Ghosn and his nissan reps are busy figuring out how Nissan's profit plunged 54% in the January-March quarter! I guess they better start producing a quality product.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Lemon-Aid rated the 06 Titan 5 stars (highest rating), the 06 Silverado 3 stars (average rating).
    Just another opinion. Myself, I put as much emphasis on CR as I do Lemon-Aid. Yet, they are sometimes very contradictory.
  • davethecarnutdavethecarnut Posts: 248
    I agree CR and other consumer testing media are important for making purchasing decisions. But how many trucks do they test? Maybe 3 or 4? Out of the thousands that will be sold to consumers? That's why I read what some of those "thousands" have to say about their trucks in forums like this one. The media are great for doing the original tech testing but it's the real world testers that count more to me.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    I don't have a vast amount of faith in the CR reliability surveys for one thing. I do scan them, but there is too much room for human error and they do not represent the majority. I am in fact a subscriber to Cr, and find that most of their reviews/road tests make sense, but I do take their info with a grain. I do like what they say about not putting too much emphasis on their findings when it comes time to choose your next vehicle. The colored dots might all be in the right spots, but if the car doesn't suit you, it's not a good choice.
  • I wish I would have listened to consumer reports and their rating Nissan Titan reliability well below average. If I did I wouldn't have purchased to Nissan lemons repaired over 60 times. Obviously, CR won't be spot on every time, but would have deterred me from buying my two Nissan Lemons and gone with a more reliable brand.
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Your observations do not jive at all with mine. Now, get some sleep.
  • You want answers? I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    Jack,

    I want facts. I know the truth.
  • "The truth is more important than the facts." Frank Lloyd Wright (1869 - 1959).
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    "Just the facts Ma'am." Joe Friday (?)
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