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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan

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  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Actually they do!

    IMO, honda needs to start getting some new technology ready. EG, an ipod interface. Maybe something similar to Ford's Sync. Push button start (the s2k has had it since 2000! :mad: ) and cooled seats seems like something to get into now while its somewhat fresh.

    -Cj
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Well Superhonda isn't correct.

    Here is the true insider info from the ride and drive.

    2.4L 177 HP iVtec i4
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/ VCM (Sedan)
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/o VCM (Coupe)

    Coupes aren't getting VCM. The navi will be a joystick navi with over 700 commands. No more touch screen. No DX model but 2 different lx models. LX-P adds power drivers seat, security systems, and other stuff. The Navi wont have traffic but will have bluetooth. The rumors for the full size class are true. The Rear seat will be the biggest in its class. More evolutionary then revolutionary. Hope this helps.

    http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=701115 for the source
  • stevecebustevecebu Posts: 493
    2.4L 177 HP iVtec i4
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/ VCM (Sedan)
    3.5L 268 HP iVtec v6 w/o VCM (Coupe)


    Just wondering if you can confirm whether or not the Sedan with the V6 will have a manual tranny?
    Thanks.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,520
    2.4L 190 HP iVtec v6

    Huh???

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • fxguyfxguy Posts: 132
    The 190HP is NOT a V6. Its a regular i4. Slight typo by the OP.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    i would hope so, seeing as how if honda could eck that hp out of a 4 cyl, they should do better if it was a v-6!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,520
    ah. ok. thanks. kind of what i figured. but what makes the difference in HP between the 2?

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Could be VTEC at intake and exhaust (like TSX) as opposed to only intake side. Or it could be A-VTEC!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,520
    well, both in the list just say iVTEC, which is why i'm asking. I think it strange they would bother producing 2 different 4-bangers for the Accord. Seems like it would be more trouble than its worth.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Not really. They have been doing that for years, and is the primary difference between the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine in TSX compared to the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine used in Accord/CR-V/Element.

    In TSX, VTEC is applied at intake as well as exhaust sides. This has resulted in a broader torque curve, with over 90% of (higher) peak torque available from 2000 rpm to 7000 rpm.

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    In CR-V, VTEC is applied only at intake. It has a broad torque but not quite to the levels of TSX's. 90% or better of its peak torque is available from about 2200 rpm to about 6200 rpm.

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    Honda has offered multiple engine designs on same models quite a bit. Integra was a lower volume car, but offered with three variations of similar engines (although the third had more differences than the other two, they were all B-series).

    And in Accord lineup, prior to MY1998 EX got VTEC while DX/LX didn't. 1998-2002 Accord had DX without VTEC, other two got it. 2003-2007 is the only generation to have all trims share a four cylinder engine.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,520
    the primary difference between the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine in TSX compared to the 2.4-liter i-VTEC engine used in Accord/CR-V/Element

    that i knew.

    2003-2007 is the only generation to have all trims share a four cylinder engine.

    that i didn't. i never gave the accord a second glance until the V6 6-speed came along.

    thanks for the info.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    It's a 2.4L 190 HP i4

    The v6 sedan cant be ordered with a manual tranny. Only a 5 speed automatic transmission. The EX-L v6 coupe will have a manual transmission.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    21/30 for the i4's
    19/29 for the v6

    Dont complain about the gas mileage. It's competitive with the competition. This car is using the 08 mileage ratings so it had to drop down a little.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Then, it has gone up for the V6 (would be 21/32 mpg by old standards) and slightly down for the I-4s (would be 23/33 by old standards).
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    This page will show you all current info about the current

    Here are the numbers for the 2007 Accord, old and new standards, so you can make the comparisons to how the new one would fare under either test.

    23 City 31 Hwy (2.4L 5MT)

    21 City 31 Hwy (2.4L 5AT)

    18 City 27 Hwy (3.0L 6MT)

    18 City 26 Hwy (3.0L 5AT)

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    21 City (Even) 30 Hwy (-1)(2008 2.4L)

    19 City (+1) 29 Hwy (+3)(2008 3.5L)
  • jet10000jet10000 Posts: 656

    21/30 for the i4's
    19/29 for the v6

    Dont complain about the gas mileage. It's competitive with the competition. This car is using the 08 mileage ratings so it had to drop down a little.


    For comparison here are the 2007 Accord New Gas ratings from the government's web-site.

    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

    4 cyl, 2.4 L, Man(5), Regular 23 city 31 hwy
    4 cyl, 2.4 L, Auto(5), Regular 21 city 31 hwy
    6 cyl, 3 L, Man(6), Regular 18 city 27 hwy
    6 cyl, 3 L, Auto(5), Regular 18 city 26 hwy

    It looks like the 4 cyl is about the same and the 6 has actually jumped up. That's great considering the extra horses the 6 will now have. Gotta love the Honda engineers.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Looks like we were thinking the same thing!
  • maddog11maddog11 Posts: 42
    Judging by the 2008 TSX's EPA figures went down 2 MPG in city driving and 3 MPG on the highway, the 2008 4 cylinder's estimates are about the same. The 3.5 268 HP 6 cylinder in the Accord gets better mileage than the 3.2 258 HP in the TL; the Honda gets 1 MPG better in the city and 3 MPG on the highway - that's impressive.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Yep.

    The new standard has completely messed up my expectations. I simply add 10% to the new estimates to see what I might get under leadfooted driving. That means, the new Accord V6 should be good for 25 mpg in mixed driving (I get 24 mpg in my 06 TL). Very impressive.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    I bet at least 2 of these engines are AVTEC.
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    The 3.5 268 HP 6 cylinder in the Accord gets better mileage than the 3.2 258 HP in the TL;

    This is one reason I think the V6 will be the 3.2, and not the 3.5. I will believe 3.5 when I see it. The Accord having a larger engine than the TL doesn't seem likely or necessary, to me.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    The person who went to the ride and drive said engines all had i-Vtec.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    A-VTEC? That's strange...
    One of the rumors earlier was that A-VTEC would be available...
  • fxguyfxguy Posts: 132
    I think its too early for A-VTEC
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    3.2L A-VTEC is my guess, with 265hp.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    Thanks. But,then,where did the extra power come from?
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    The 4th gen (92 models) had the same engines across the board. The EX had 15 more hp (125 vs 140) from intake and exhaust manifold, and bypass valve modifications.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Well apparently a Honda document is now confirming 273 hp. I really have no idea how much HP. I guess we must wait until the 21st.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    Looks like my suspcions were correct. Just like with the Civic - gas mileage did not go up (for the stick shift model) despite Honda claiming better efficiency.

    I suppose efficiency could technically have gone up - given the greater weight and greater hp that the engine has to deal with, but the end result is no better gas mileage for the 4-cyl. So glad I bought the 07. Hopefully the diesel will remedy things.

    With gas more than double what it was when the previous generation came out I wonder why so much emphasis on power, and status quo on mpg (with the exception of the V6 - which still uses more fuel than the I4)
  • angelus1angelus1 Posts: 23
    will the 190 hp be std in all the coupes? or is that just for the ex?
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