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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?



  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,950
    Isn't that a running race course?

    Oh yeah, the perimeter road around Hotlanta is either running 85 mph or jogging at 3 mph.

    Two guys supposedly went from my neck of the woods to Florida non-stop one time back in the 70s when freeways were still relatively new and wound up on I-285 in the wee hours. The owner of the car got tired and told his buddy to take over. A few hours later the guy wakes up and asks his buddy if everything was going okay. The buddy says yeah; funny thing, every hour I keep passing a big Levitz furniture outlet like clockwork. The South must be full of them.

    Only in America?
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,627
    I found the people in the Atlanta airport rather rude compared to other places in the South.

    That's because they only have 15 minutes to catch a connecting flight and their departure terminal is in a different zip code;)
  • berriberri Posts: 4,000
    edited November 2012
    But that's because unlike O'Hare, ATL has a smart runway set up so things don't tend to get all backed up in weather. So chances are if you're flight is running late, the connecting one is not (well, unless it's a commuter!).
  • dave8697dave8697 Posts: 1,479
    The only options this one has are the chrome wheels and aftermarket tint. The seller had the power window motors replaced in 3 windows, both front struts, and the intake manifold gasket replaced. He also had the car mounted keyless entry reciever replaced just recently. It's a nice step up from the '99 Sonoma for my younger son. He is driving 20 miles each way to school and 5 miles to work. On the school trips, he could come close to the 27 mpg hwy rating since it is mostly interstate.

    The oil dipstick reads that it is about 1 qt overfilled with 56% remaining oil life. Think I should drain some out?

    The only thing I have found so far is a dirty cabin air filter and the cargo net is gone. He thinks the rear deck center speaker could use replacing. The brakes seem OK but I still want to take a look with the wheel off so I know how long they have.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    edited November 2012
    about the Atlanta airport when I was there in Oct. 2008 was that there was a brand new 2009 Kia Borrego in the middle of one of the floors inside. Cool to see it there, I believe it was a silver Borrego. Everything else I recall about the place was pretty standard international airport stuff, really.

    I didn't notice the employee snobbishness, gagrice, but wasn't really on the lookout for it, either. Mighta been there. ;)

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    As for the Atlanta airport. It was not the help I found to be rude as much as the people in the airport. I noticed it especially in the underground subway system. Maybe I am not used to that many people thinking they have a right to my space. I held tightly to my wallet and carry on bag. Lots of pushing and shoving.

    Still in love with your Mitsu?
  • berriberri Posts: 4,000
    Well Gary. I'm guessing you were in a cluster heading to the Philly and Newark/ LaGuardia flights - or the International terminal! You know, out your way everyone stereotypes LA as laid back, but LAX can be a hellhole of stress and jerks. I always found Orange County (John Wayne) and San Diego more civilized.
  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,661
    that work at ATL airport are simply not civilized...:):) far as I-285, it does go either 80 mph or mimics the L.I.E. (Long Island Expressway) as a huge parking lot...

    When I came to Atlanta in 1971, after 6 pm, I-285 was virtually empty...not so now...

    Gwinnett Place Mall was built when Gwinnett County became the county of wealth in that the population has...uh...changed...the place has gone downhill...that was the reason for building the Mall of Georgia, as the affluent keep moving farther north to get away from "whatever it is they try to get away from"...

    Same thing in Cobb County on the northwest side...when Cumberland Mall opened in 1972, it was in a pretty wealthy that nobody there speaks English, the others have moved north into Kennesaw and beyond, avoiding the criminal least in Kennesaw, it is "mandated" that you own a gun...very intelligent, IMO...

    Back to American cars, y'all know I occasionally rail against the unions, altho not too often...:)...

    I must be intellectually honest...for all of my screaming about the UAW, my 2004 Crown Vic just passed 194,000 miles on the odometer...dashboard squeaks and rattles, other things go wrong, but it does run fairly well...where's Rocky when I need him???
  • berriberri Posts: 4,000
    Heck Marsh, I think I've got some years on you because I can remember when I was in the military that there was actually a stretch of country between Atlanta and Marietta, and a lot of vacant land around parts of the rather newly built I-285. I was too dumb and young to invest. Back in those days I was like most young lieutenants - the checks went to booze and broads!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    I avoid LAX at all costs. It is not so bad if I fly in on a commuter from SD and take a shuttle within the airport. I used to fly in there every 3 weeks and have to go out of one terminal and walk to another go through security at the commuter terminal. That was so I could get home in one day. I finally gave it up and stayed over night in Seattle and flew out the next morning. If you were gold on AK Air Seattle security was a breeze back in 04-06. Our last flight was in 2010, and probably will not fly until they end their silly xrays and groping procedures.

    Plenty of nice places in the USA to drive in my mostly American made Sequoia. ;)

    San Diego was one of the first to go with xray and grope. If our government cannot help but abuse the 4th Amendment, we just won't play their game.
  • berriberri Posts: 4,000
    SAN is America's mini version of the old Hong Kong airport - scan the rooftops, clear the parking structure and plop 'er down. Giddy Up!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    the others have moved north into Kennesaw and beyond, avoiding the criminal least in Kennesaw

    I spent 12 weeks at a Western Union school in 1973. The first week I fell in love with a girl from Kennesaw Mt. Met her at Ruby Reds in the Atlanta underground. I thought Atlanta was a great place back then. Went back for a visit in 1985 and it had changed for the worse.

    We are planning a road trip for the Spring, to Florida and then up to Indiana. We will avoid ALL big cities including Atlanta. I like to "Take the Roads Less Traveled".
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    I don't think you can take off with a full load of fuel in a 747 out of Lindbergh field. Air Force one usually lands at the Navy runway on Coronado. I did see one land there from Mr A's restaurant one evening. MD11s and L1011 was about the limit for our airport.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,950
    edited November 2012
    My brother-in-law had a place in town there that was right on the flight path. They wouldn't let the planes land after 10(?) PM but after dark it was a hoot hanging out in his living room and getting lit up by the landing lights of the jets right overhead.

    Jay Leno and other greenies vote and the Ford Fusion wins 'Green Car of the Year' title. (Detroit News)

    Made in Michigan and Mexico (with parts sourced from all over).
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    Mexico is America.....

    I think Ford is positioned to bail out of the USA at the drop of a hat. They will stay as long as the UAW allows them to stay in business here. This is NOT 1936.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,950
    Mexico is America..... . Right in keeping with the topic. :shades:

    Ford's not going anywhere. The sunk costs alone in Michigan are huge.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,676
    It is all a write-off. If the UAW gets too pushy Ford will head to friendlier places. Just got a FB message from our friend Rocky. He just got laid off today. Been at that company about 6 months. Not sure if they are losing business or what. This economy sucks for the middle class. And it ain't gonna get better.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    edited November 2012
    The oil dipstick reads that it is about 1 qt overfilled with 56% remaining oil life. Think I should drain some out?

    I would just change the oil now to establish a base line. Actually, for all the fluids. Trans/gear box, diff, brake fluid, etc.

    I bought an 8 year old (at the time) NA Miata and the seller had all the service receipts. The rear diff oil looked like melted chocolate.

    This was at 26k miles, and she had done the 30k mile service early!

    You never know...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    In that case Brazil is (south) American, too. ;)

    I have observed a double standard, people generally seem fine with Canada but balk at Mexico.

    Perhaps it's those wage numbers we read about earlier.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,950
    edited November 2012
    Too bad about Rocky. I see a company downstate missed projections and is getting rid of 5% of their employees (1100 of them) and a "small" (150 employee) bakery in Detroit is folding.

    There is a Ford plant getting partially razed for a Menards, but the factory is 55 years old. But the initial plan was for the battery/solar industry to move in, not retail jobs. (Detroit Free Press)

    Juice, ha! Got me. :shades:
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