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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    price will make people shift allegiances

    That was my point - Toyota removed incentives, GM jumped on the opportunity and increased them at the same time.

    Hard to search for rebate history ....

    Supply was cut drastically from Japan, but that affected Lexus and models like the Prius a lot more than American made cars like the Camry.

    Corolla won the small car sales crown, Sienna won the minivan sales crown, and the Camry was the best selling car in 2011, the same year the tsunami happened.


    Because they build those cars here in the USA.

    The Japan-built models got hammered, but not the US built ones.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587

    Note the date, May 2011, tsunami was in April.

    Not by coincidence that's the same month the Malibu won the sales crown overall.

    Toyota had the lowest incentives among the top six automakers

    General Motors came in last

    Of course rebate amount varies by model, but Malibu rebates peaked right when Camry rebates were eliminated.
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,369
    I'm pretty sure that if you look back at the numerous posts about it here, American production of Japanese nameplates were way down because of the tsunami too. Auto analysts even commented repeatedly about the increase of market share of U.S. automakers during the tsunami and following period because of the tsunami--and did not differentiate between Japanese and U.S. production. Look back, and you will see that.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's funny, when I said supply was short, Big 3 fans said it was a drop in demand, and that supply was plentiful at dealers.

    Some models were more affected than others. I'm not sure what % of Toyota/Lexus are imported, but it's enough that overall supply was still short. You go to a dealer and they're out of model X, so they show you model Y that's made in the USA. Then they start to run out of model Y, also.

    The volume models are made here and obviously did OK, given 3 of them won sales crowns.

    All it takes is one part (an ABS computer, as one example). When that happens they have to find a new supplier, and that can take a while, depending upon what it is.

    To hedge their bets, they eliminated rebates. Those didn't come back until towards the end of summer. Of course you lose some sales.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Edit: I think the Taco was also the best selling compact pickup, so could be 4.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,455
    No, the UAW gets a pass since the goof originated in Korea. Chevrolet, being the division, must take full responsibility for the goof--and they did--just like Toyota should and did.

    I never saw that incident as much a failure of the UAW as it was a failure of the QC process at Chevrolet, which is the all-important process at the critical new-model introduction time period.

    Lets be honest, though... These "lapses" can occur with any manufacturer.

    Ford is the current whipping boy in that regard, but as I've said before, every manufacturer gets a turn at the wheel at one time or another.

    In GM's defense, it seems they took the appropriate action. I haven't heard much negative news about the Sonic, and its one of the models my younger daughter is considering as her graduation "gift"... Or, as I like to say, her last payment from me while she's on my "payroll".
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Is that accurate?

    It says the Routan is made in Germany. I kinda doubt that, aren't they built alongside Caravans?
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,611
    ...and Bentleys made in Brazil.

    I'm kind of doubting that list...
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,940
    And Volvo S80 from Switzerland :confuse:
  • tachtach Posts: 3
    I will check with VW... thanks
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,075

    I remember this Chilly Willy cartoon set in Alaska where he went into a diner and flapjacks were $60!
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,455

    Seems pretty far fetched but the tech may be here quicker than you think.

    Looks like it may be further along than either one of us thought... loadable-gun
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    Spam attack!! ROTFLMAO!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Anyone else struggle to find any gifts not made in China? :sick:

    Bought myself a new rake. Plastic made in US, wood made in Brazil, where I was born.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 21,597
    My Mom and stepdad got me a Mag Lite flashlight for Christmas, and shockingly, it was made in the US. Also got a few dress shirts, but they were made in Indonesia, China, etc.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,940
    Gift cards, I think they are made in the USA :shades:

    I brought back a few things from Europe for people - all made in Germany or Switzerland (as they care more about domestic industry there).
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,611
    Anyone else struggle to find any gifts not made in China?

    It's difficult.

    I got my son a few guitar related items made by a company called Dunlop Manufacturing. It seems everything I or my son have ever bought from them is American made.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I wouldn't be surprised if the plastic cards are made elsewhere. :D

    Got 3 for the wife, she loves 'em. I don't, they fill up my wallet!
  • Claire@EdmundsClaire@Edmunds Chicago areaPosts: 968
    Whoops, looks like Santa had a layover in Istanbul last night. Sorry for the interruption.

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