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2007 Volvo S80

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  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Adaptive Remote StartAdaptive remote start, push-button keyless start

    The STS is the first prestige luxury sedan equipped with remote start — and the ability to activate preset commands from a distance. With Adaptive Remote Start you can start the engine and activate your preset commands from up to 200 feet away — that's over half the length of a football field. Let's say you're heading to your STS and you're about a block or two away. With just one click of your keyless fob you can start the engine. With certain packages you can also automatically start your heater or air conditioning, heat or cool your seats, and even start the window defrost... all from up to 200 feet away. As you approach the car, the doors unlock and you're ready for an instant departure in absolute comfort. close Air BagsDriver and front passenger, dual-stage, front and side-impact*

    Dual-Stage Front airbags are standard for both driver and front-seat passenger and feature primary and secondary levels of deployment to help reduce the risk of air bag induced injury. Sensors detect crash impact and determine level of inflation. close Head curtain air bags for 1st- and outboard 2nd-row passengers**

    Side-Impact head curtain and thorax airbags offer driver and passenger head, chest and shoulder protection. They are seat-mounted and roof-rail mounted and inflate quickly to compensate for short crush distance in a side impact. 5 close Audio and Video SystemsBose® 5.1 Studio Surround Sound AM/FM with in-dash 6-disc CD/DVD changer and 15 speakers, GPS-based DVD navigation, Bluetooth-enabled phone interface

    With Bose Studio Surround, you—and your passengers—will feel like you're on stage in the middle of the music, only you'll be sitting inside the comfort zone of your STS. The STS is the first prestige luxury sedan to offer Bose Studio Surround — delivering an extraordinary concert-quality experience for both driver and passengers. The Discrete 5.1 Surround Sound is unlike stereo systems that deliver 2 channels of sound, the Bose Studio Surround sound system offers 5 individual channels plus 1 low-frequency channel for bass. The result is discrete 5.1 surround sound of exceptional clarity, range and depth. And with Bose CenterPoint signal processing, you can even listen to your stereo CDs in simulated (synthesized) surround sound. Custom designed for the STS, Bose Studio Surround features a total of 15 speakers, and uses advanced signal processing to deliver discrete 5.1 surround sound throughout the cabin. 5 sonic zones, or individual sweet spots, result from this unique system architecture. Front seat passengers enjoy 4 Bose Personal™ surround speakers, 2 mounted on either side of the headrests. The STS is the first vehicle to offer a discrete Studio Surround sound system with this feature. close DVD Entertainment/Navigation System: Plays CDs, MP3s and other formats; 6-disc CD/DVD changer; 8-inch full VGA display screen; utilizes separate DVD slot, available voice recognition and available Head-Up Display for easy viewing†

    The available DVD entertainment system in STS can play many of today's most popular media formats including CDs and MP3s. Plus, the integrated CD/DVD changer can hold up to 6 discs of different formats. In fact, the system plays the widest variety of audio available on the market today. And it's integrated with the available Bose® Studio Surround™ sound system, so you can enjoy discrete 5.1 surround sound of exceptional clarity, range and depth. In fact, every disc you play, including your conventional stereo CDs, will deliver incredibly lifelike sound. Feel like watching a DVD movie or DVD-ROM? Just put your STS in park, sit back and enjoy. The high-resolution 8-inch VGA display screen delivers excellent color and clarity. The screen also tilts in four positions and features disc and track memory recall for two drivers. close XM Satellite Radio (service fees extra)††

    With a wide variety of programming, XM has something to excite any driver. Whether you want to be entertained or informed, to laugh, think, or sing, XM has the perfect channel for you - coast-to-coast, and in digital-quality sound. 3 trial months - no obligation. close Climate Control System Dual-zone automatic electronic climate control with individual settings for driver and front passenger plus outboard outlets adjustable for additional side-window defogging and rear-window defroster Outside automatic recirculating air quality sensorConsole Includes floor shifter, integral armrest, storage compartment, 3 auxiliary power outlets and cupholdersCruise Control Electronic with set and resume speed, includes telltale in head-up displaySophisticated radar transceiver automatically adjusts speed to maintain preset following distance, includes telltale in head-up display#

    With Adaptive Cruise Control, you'll enjoy more driving with a lot less brake tapping. That's because it not only maintains your preset speed, it also maintains your following distance. As an extra safety precaution, it even provides audio and visual warnings when another vehicle cuts you off suddenly. Adaptive Cruise Control is specially equipped with a radar sensor located behind the special Cadillac emblem that can detect the vehicles in front of you. Integrated with the STS on-board computer, it automatically maintains both your preset speed and following distance. If someone pulls in ahead of you, STS will slow down and fall back to your pre-set following distance. If another car cuts you off suddenly, the system will brake and provide audio and visual warnings that you may need to brake harder. When traffic clears, STS resumes your set speed. Meanwhile, details can be clearly shown on the available four-color Head-up Display, so you can keep your eyes firmly fixed on the road. close Driver Information Center Display in gauge cluster, vehicle status readout, 6 language capabilityHead-Up Display4-color reconfigurable Head-Up display projects data such as vehicle speed, navigation system turn prompts, driver shift control, audio settings and optional Adaptive Cruise Control status directly on windshield

    The STS offers an unsurpassed Head-Up Display which projects digital data onto the windshield in front of you. You can choose from four colors to organize and emphasize data and even adjust the display position for comfortable viewing. close Interior Color Choices Cashmere## Ebony## Light Gray## Keyless Access Includes 2 remote transmitters enabling passive entry on both front doors and trunkPush-button start

    The STS is the first prestige luxury sedan equipped with remote start — and the ability to activate preset commands from a distance. With Adaptive Remote Start you can start the engine and activate your preset commands from up to 200 feet away — that's over half the length of a football field. Let's say you're heading to your STS and you're about a block or two away. With just one click of your keyless fob you can star
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    start the engine. With certain packages you can also automatically start your heater or air conditioning, heat or cool your seats, and even start the window defrost... all from up to 200 feet away. As you approach the car, the doors unlock and you're ready for an instant departure in absolute comfort. close Memory PackageRecalls setting for 2 drivers: driver's seat settings, power tilt and telescoping steering wheel, outside mirrors, audio and climate control settings

    With 40 memory presets for two drivers, the STS Memory Package includes presets for seat position, outside mirrors, tilt and telescopic steering wheel positions, radio, climate control and a host of other amenities. close Mirrors Electrochromic, automatic-dimming inside rearview mirror with compass and OnStar controls (n/a with DVD navigation)§ OnStar System OnStar Personal Calling: Hands-free calling§§ Cadillac Virtual Advisor: One year subscription for traffic, weather reports and stock quotes§§

    This service, accessed by OnStar subscribers through the Hands-Free Calling feature, is complimentary for 12 months along with the standard one-year OnStar subscription included on all Cadillac models. You can connect with Cadillac Virtual Advisor to hear location-based weather and traffic reports. 2 close OnStar Directions & Connections Plan: One year subscription§§

    One-year Directions & Connections Plan includes: safety services such as automatic notification of air bag deployment, remote door unlock, Stolen Vehicle Location Assistance, GM Goodwrench Remote Diagnostics; driving directions; Information & Convenience Services by which an OnStar Advisor can provide service recommendations and directory information; and OnStar Hands-free Calling, a built in feature of OnStar that lets you make and receive voice activated phone calls. (Prepaid calling charges apply.) 2 close Safety Belts Lap and shoulder belts for all positions and pretensioners for driver and front passengerSeating Driver and front passenger heated/ventilated Front bucket seats with Nuance leather seating surfaces and 8-way power adjustment, rear seat with leather seating surfaces Tuscany Leather SeatsSteering WheelLeather-trimmed, power-tilt, telescoping with fingertip controls for audio

    Audio controls are located on-wheel buttons for easy audio system control. Depending on vehicle options, you can change source, station, CD, track, volume – even mute the sound. OnStar® and available Voice Recognition also controllable from steering wheel. Adaptive Cruise Control, included as an option with selected packages and helps controls the gap between your vehicle and the vehicle ahead and the interface is steering wheel based. The heated steering wheel is included as an option with selected packages. close Leather-wrapped and heated Leather-wrapped, heated with wood accentsTheft-Deterrent System PASS-Key III immobilizer with audible content theft-deterrent systemTire Pressure Monitor SystemSensors in all 4 wheels, low- and high-pressure warning in Driver Information Center

    Know your tire pressure from inside the STS: This available system helps you know when you need to increase or decrease your tire pressure. With sensors located in all 4 wheels, it displays low and high pressure alerts displayed in Driver Information Center. 19 close Trunk Power releaseWindows Power, includes express-up and down, all; rear passenger lockoutWood Trim Eucalyptus wood on steering wheel, shifter knob, center stack and console, instrument panel molding and door pulls.

    Cruise ControlSophisticated radar transceiver automatically adjusts speed to maintain preset following distance, includes telltale in head-up display*

    With Adaptive Cruise Control, you'll enjoy more driving with a lot less brake tapping. That's because it not only maintains your preset speed, it also maintains your following distance. As an extra safety precaution, it even provides audio and visual warnings when another vehicle cuts you off suddenly. Adaptive Cruise Control is specially equipped with a radar sensor located behind the special Cadillac emblem that can detect the vehicles in front of you. Integrated with the STS on-board computer, it automatically maintains both your preset speed and following distance. If someone pulls in ahead of you, STS will slow down and fall back to your pre-set following distance. If another car cuts you off suddenly, the system will brake and provide audio and visual warnings that you may need to brake harder. When traffic clears, STS resumes your set speed. Meanwhile, details can be clearly shown on the available four-color Head-up Display, so you can keep your eyes firmly fixed on the road. close Head-Up Display4-color reconfigurable Head-Up display projects data such as vehicle speed, navigation system turn prompts, driver shift control, audio settings and optional Adaptive Cruise Control status directly on windshield.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Black Raven* White Diamond* Blackberry* Blue Chip* Infrared* Light Platinum* Radiant Bronze* Sand Storm* Silver Smoke* Stealth Gray* Handling Package Michelin Pilot Sport high-performance radial tires: P255/45-ZR18 and optional performance brake linings** LightingXenon HID headlamps with IntelliBeam automatic high-beam switching and headlamp washers

    Imagine you're out driving at night with your high beams on. When IntelliBeam detects the oncoming headlamps or preceding taillamps of other vehicles, your lights step down to low beams — automatically. When traffic clears, the system turns your high beams back on — automatically. It can even ignore light from other sources such as streetlights to prevent unnecessary dimming. This type of "smart" technology activates your high and low beams precisely when you need them, so you can concentrate on driving. 12 close Mirrors Outside heated rearview, manual folding, power adjustableSpoiler Rear deck-lidSunroof Sunroof with express-open/close and express-ventUltrasonic Rear Parking Assist Rearview LED light with audible warningWheels & Tires 9-spoke 18-in. cast aluminum wheels with polished faceted finish; Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 P235/50-WR18 front, P255/45-WR18 rear, all-season performance tires 9-spoke 18-in. cast aluminum wheels with polished finish, non-faceted; Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 P235/50-ZR18 front, P255/45-ZR18 rear, all-season performance tires† Windshield Wipers Rainsense automatic wipers with moisture detection.

    Exterior Color Choices White Diamond InfraredHandling Package Michelin Pilot Sport high-performance radial tires: P255/45-ZR18 and optional performance brake linings* Wheels & Tires 9-spoke 18-in. cast aluminum wheels with polished finish, non-faceted; Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 P235/50-ZR18 front, P255/45-ZR18 rear, all-season performance tires**
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Engine4.6L Northstar V8 VVT: 320 horsepower at 6400 rpm, 315 lb-ft of torque at 4400 rpm

    Both STS engines share several features that enable powerful, efficient, and reliable operation. They have a double overhead cam design with Variable Valve Timing for continuous power output and a strong, lightweight aluminum engine block and cylinder head structure that withstands the demands of performance driving. Forged steel crankshafts and polymer-coated piston skirts add extra durability. Both feature electronic throttle control for quick response and an acoustic cover for quiet operation even during high-speed maneuvers. With a total of 32 perfectly synchronized valves and a powerful compression ratio, the 4.6L Northstar V8 VVT goes from 0 to 60 mph in just 5.9 seconds. Maximum output is 320 horsepower and 315 lb-ft of torque. close Engine block heaterTransmission5-speed automatic transmission with Performance Algorithm Liftfoot and Driver Shift Control (clutchless manual operation)

    Engine Engine block heater
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Do you really want me to embarrass you and the 06' S80 any further ? :P

    okay I will !!!! :P

    All-Speed Traction Control Brake and engine controlBrakes4-wheel disc brakes with anti-lock braking system

    The braking system in STS gives you the confidence of knowing you'll be able to stop quickly. It features four-wheel disc brakes integrated with four-wheel anti-lock braking and traction control. The disc brake rotors on all four wheels are vented to prevent overheating and distorting. If you need to hit the brakes hard, Brake Assist optimizes operation individually on all four wheels to bring you to a full stop in the shortest distance and time that the available traction control will allow. This extra level of confidence comes standard on every STS. close Drive SystemRear-wheel drive

    Rear-Wheel Drive comes standard on the STS V6 and V8 models. With performance-oriented drive ratios and an available limited slip differential, your STS will handle like a pro. 17 close DrivetrainAll-wheel drive

    STS is available with performance-tuned All-Wheel Drive so you get impressive power evenly distributed to all four wheels. Integrated with StabiliTrak and All-Wheel Traction Control, it helps deliver precise cornering in dry and wet road conditions. With a 40/60 front-rear torque split and a 3.23.1 final drive ratio, expect a superb performance. close Limited-slip differential* Magnetic Ride ControlComputer-controlled suspension system with adjustable computer-controlled shock absorbers

    Reading the road up to 1,000 times a second, the world's fastest-reacting suspension system, resolves the inherent conflict between taut handling and a fluid ride. Thanks to a duo of advanced electronics and inventive magneto-rheological fluid-based struts, MRC reads every inch of the road at 60 mph to adjust shock-absorber damping. close StabiliTrak Computer-controlled, 4-channel stability enhancement system* Steering Power-assisted speed-sensitive rack-and-pinionPremium ZF Servotronic II performance gearing and variable-ratio electronic control

    Born on the Formula 1 race circuit. Tuned to STS specifications on Germany's famed Nürburgring racecourse. The ZF Servotronic II steering system is widely regarded for its precision and high-speed cornering. All of which gives STS an incredibly sensitive feel for the road. close Suspension Sport-tuned 4-wheel independent design that utilizes a short/long arm, coil over strut with anti-sway bar in the front, and a modified multi-link with anti-sway bar and automatic rear level control system in the rear; both benefit from monotube performance shock absorbers
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I really hated doing this to you pal. But I had a good idea of what the S80 had for technology, based on browsing through it a little over a month. I hope now you realize the 06' S80 can't hold Caddy's Jock.

    The 2007' model will fair much better and I really like it alot. The 07' S80 IMHO has the best interior of any car under $100K. Most people I know who are interested in Volvo's say the seats are the most comfy in the world. :) The 07' S80 should be a great vehicle and even with my GM discount the S80' is still a better buy for me.

    Rocky

    P.S. Sorry I rubbed it in a bit, but I couldn't resist the oppertunity. :P You'd do the same. You wanted me to choose sides which frusterated me, and I had to pay ya back. :blush:
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Well I hope that Volvo's labor connection isn't that strongly tied to the UAW.

    I don't completely blame the UAW for the woes of the American car maker. They aren't entirely responsible, but they do have to shoulder there share of the blame.
    Also, the UAw has been loathe to shoulder its share of the recovery.
    Simply because they would have to sacrifice benefits in order to improve the whole.
    As for assertion that the non union plants have access to better equipment, that is simply untrue. Ford and GM do ahve access to world class machinery. Their workforce just isn't world class. The non union workforce at Honda, Toyota etc is better motivated.

    As for the Caddy, since it is a brand new design it had better be more advanced than the current S80. Some of your examples were spam however.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    Let's focus on this vehicle only, please - Auto News is the place to talk about Volvo's history, and the Sedans forum is a great place for direct comparisons. This topic is about the upcoming S80.

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  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    The non union workforce at Honda, Toyota etc is better motivated.

    Ummm, based on productivity, GM is barely "1" car behind honda. I think that includes the Job bank workers.

    But back on topic the S80, should be much ahead of anything Cadillac, makes. But will it ? We will have to wait and see for sure. The S80, is a beaut. I'm not dogging the 2007' S80. It will be a very respectable car. However will it's price reflect the product. In some eyes it already has. I'm going to have to read a review to make my final determination. Who really know what the final price on a 07' S80 V-8 will be yet. Maybe it will stop at $50K ? That IMHO would make it a good deal. :)

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I keep however leaning back to the BMW 335i sedan. It's cheaper and way faster, and will be more fun to drive IMHO than a S80. The BMW dealership is 1/3 the driving distance of the Volvo, making it much more convenient

    Rocky
  • Do you need to carry 4-5 people often?
    If yes, - BMW 3 series is too small, if no - S80 is too big.

    As I said - choose your side first, and I do not mean any offence.

    For me the first step in the decision making tree is what KIND of car I need - everything else comes after that.

    It does not matter, for instance, whether I get a super deal on 335i, it is just too small for my family.

    And did enjoy reading your long postings, I could only wish that it would not be just cut and paste from some marketing brochure, but reflect your own impressions.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Do you need to carry 4-5 people often?
    If yes, - BMW 3 series is too small, if no - S80 is too big.


    80-90% of the time, lev_berkovich it's myself, my wife, my 2 yr. old son, and my 10 month old daughter. I also plan on buying my G'Ma's 2002 Old's Aurora, which will fit 4 adults comfy and 5 in a squeeze.

    As said - choose your side first, and I do not mean any offence

    I guess The Volvo dealership obstacle makes the decision easier to choose my side. OTOH, that doesn't make me dislike Volvo brand or the S80. ;)

    For me the first step in the decision making tree is what KIND of car I need - everything else comes after that.

    Well I'm in the situation where I can be a tad more flexible, since I will have the Aurora this September. If I want a BMW or a S80, when the time comes I can do so. However the Bimmer would be more of a toy and yes it will more than likely be a sedan. OTOH a I could make a coupe work for me also if I chose to do so.

    It does not matter, for instance, what kind of super deal I can get on 335i, it is just too small for my family.

    Well if you can afford it, do like I'm doing and get ya a inexpensive family car, and then you can choose whatever car you's like. ;)

    How big is your family ? What about a 335i sedan ? If you have 5 people in your family then perhaps yes a S80 is the best way for you to go. ;)

    I also might not even get me a 335i if I can't get a decent deal on it. My dream car as a kid was a 1990' 25th Ann. Ford Mustang 7-up convertible with a 5-speed manuel. I would hop it up and probably keep it forever for my son or daughter as a heirloom. :)

    And did enjoy reading your long postings, I could only wish that it would not be just cut and paste from some marketing brochure, but reflect your own impressions.

    Sorry, about that. I was trying to point out that the 2006 S80, couldn't hold the 2006 STS's jockey strap in features and/or technology. :) I guess I could of just pointed out the highlights, but that would of took me a long time to accomplish. :P

    Take care pal, and see ya on the boards. :blush:

    Rocky
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,409
    when he said choose a side, I'm pretty sure he meant choose a class of vehicle, not a manufacturer.

    If you are looking at the 335, then why not the S60R as a competitor? It can be had for ALOT less than the 335 will AND adds AWD and adjustable suspension.

    As far as the cut and paste garbage, I don't believe you picked the items exclusive to the STS. I didn't read through it all because I don't feel like taking the time, but I noticed a paragraph on AWD ... the S80 has that, too. And then a paragraph on side curtains ... uh, need I point that out on the S80?

    I mean, come on, you quoted this?
    It features four-wheel disc brakes integrated with four-wheel anti-lock braking and traction control.

    Good grief, I've had that on my $20k cars, as well as $40k cars.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Thank you, Rob. Having English as a second language definitely impairs my ability to get my points across accurately.

    Do not be too hard on Rocky. I think he is genuinely believes in what he writes or quotes, unlike, unfortunately, many others on Edmunds forums.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,409
    oh, i agree.

    i think rocky knows he and i are "cool." Sometimes we've been on opposite sites of the fence and sometimes on the same. Its all good.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I like Volvo's and always will. The dealership obstacle for service is to much to overcome. I don't think the S80, is worth 3 hrs. of my time to drive to Lubbock from Dumas after thinking about it. I'd have to use a good portion of my lease miles for service. I don't think their are many others that would do this to own a specific car.

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    To be able to build a 2007' Volvo S80 on the Volvo Website. :)

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=116977?tid=edm- - unds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#6

    WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shades:

    Volvo. for life ;)

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    What do you think about that Edmunds article pal ?

    Rocky
  • The Edmunds article is consistent with just about all other previews/first drives on the new S80, very positive, lukewarm on the engine, super on the safety and the creature comforts. I look forward to a paper/road comparison of the S80 (especially the V8) with any or all of its competitors: Infiniti M35X, Lexus GS350 AWD, Audi A6, BMW 530xi, MB E350/E550 4matic. I hope anyone who sees such a review will tell us about it here!
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    If I see one, I'll post it ASAP. :)

    Rocky
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Nice enough article, what I find amusing is the price description vs the Euro competitors.
    The S80 V8 will be $10,000 or more less than its European competitors. This months Car and Driver has a test between the 550i, E500 and M45.
    The 550i was $70,000 as tested!!
    The Mercedes was about $60k I believe.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,409
    I believe what they were trying to say (but not doing it clearly) is that its competitors compete performance-wise with their smaller engines. So a V8 S80 is comparable to a 6-cylinder competitor, and therefore those are the prices you compare.

    Of course, where I think this comparison fails is when you factor in AWD. There is no such thing as a BMW 550xi and the 530xi is quite a bit slower than the S80 will be. Even the M35x loses about a half second to the S80 estimates (and, like bmw, there is no AWD V8 combo in the Infiniti).

    Plan to see unfair comparisons in most of the media since, when you take price and drivetrain into consideration, there are little-to-no direct competitors.

    The Acura RL is about all there is, I think.

    EDIT: I just reread the article ... so they do say its the Asian V6s and Euro V8s that are just as good or better ... for the same price. That's obviously incorrect. As you've pointed out, Vmax, the Euros are more expensive, and as I've just pointed out, the 6-cylinder AWD combos are not up to the performance (except the RL).

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    The other thing to consider is the fact that we are going off Volvo's performance estimates, which are likely to be quite conservative.
    The XC90 V8, which is 1000 lbs heavier reaches 60mph in 6.8 sec.
    If launched properly, the S80 V8 should reach 60mph in under 6 sec.
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    I figure a test with a good launch should break 6 seconds to 60. So yes I have to agree with volvomax ;)

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    Yeah, what's up with that Volvomax ? We, need to get to the bottom of this pal. A loaded out V-8 S80, would you guess mid or low $50's ????

    Rocky
  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,989
    You'd think we'd be able to build the sucker by now ? :cry:

    Rocky
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,409
    I'm "feeling" 6.2 secs. ;)

    should we start a pool?

    Ya know, interesting side note about this, though. I sometimes feel like the press either can't or won't launch a volvo to its fullest potential. If you look for the tested numbers for the S70 and S60, for example, you'll find they are on the slow side. Real-world track numbers from owners (and I've seen the timeslips) have been quite a bit quicker. This is the complete opposite with what you see with just about every other car tested by the mags. Most folks can never get their cars to go that quick, mostly for fear of breaking them.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • I'd guess mid to high 50's looking at the prices of loaded options from Lexus, BMW and Infiniti. Reports are that the technology goodies will be bundled into a package, and I can't believe that will be less than $5K if they include satnav. We'll see soon enough (next month, says my dealer).
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,409
    all prices shown are base prices and I even went outside the standard competitors for a bigger sampling.

    Volvo S80 AWD V8 = $50k
    Acura RL (no V8) = $49,300
    Audi A6 4.2 quattro = $55,300
    BMW 550i (no AWD) = $58,500
    Infiniti M45 (no AWD) = $49,100
    Jag S-type 4.2 (no AWD) = $55,335
    Lexus GS430 (no AWD) = $52,375
    MB E550 4matic = $61,500

    Did I get them all? The only one that comes close, IMHO, is the RL, and, really, I feel like that's less of a car. Don't get me wrong, I'm an Acura fan, but the RL is pretty small for its class (which is the only reason it can get away with a V6 in a field of V8s). The Audi would have to be 2nd runner up since it offers everything the Volvo does at $5k more. Then, if you have no desire for AWD, there is always the Infiniti at about the same starting price as the Volvo.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

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