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Toyota Camry Hybrid

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  • lanceqlanceq Posts: 16
    Thanks bmgoodman. I will stop by and talk to them. I have actually talked to Kay Jennings about a month ago. They turned me off with telling me I would have to give them three color selections. I only want one color when paying $30,000 for a car. It will be extremely interesting to see how all of this pricing plays out. Those (like myself) who orders early are somewhat behind the eight ball on this process luckily the ordering process is non binding....
    Take care,
    lance
  • What do people think? I've not seen one yet, so I wonder:
    1. Does the battery weight mean the car sways a bit?
    2. Is the trunk really tiny?
    3. Does the driver's seat give good thigh support?
    Thanks for your thoughts.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Well since none have been delivered yet it's hard for the public to know. The only reports are the few preproduction models given to some automotive testers and the resulting reports.

    AFAIK there have been no comments about 'sway'. I'd doubt it too since the battery is located amidship and low to the ground about the center of gravity.

    The trunk will be smaller but it's a personal preference. For me it would not be a problem.

    Seats? Go to a Toyota store and drive an XLE 4c. That's the closest model to the new TCH. Again personal preference.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "...the battery is located amidship and low to the ground about the center of gravity.

    The trunk will be smaller but it's a personal preference."


    kdhspyder - I'm confused. I thought the trunk was smaller because that's where the battery pack was located (under the trunk floor). I'm trying to figure out how a battery pack located in the trunk area would place it amidship? Last time I checked, the trunk area was NOT amidship.....
  • willybillwillybill Posts: 83
    Suggest reading the "First Drive" review with this link:
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=109049
    It has excellent things to say about the TCH.. Trunk space didn't seem to suffer much from the other TC models since the battery configuration is actually under the back seat. The battery weighs about 300 pounds so it is not unlike having your mother in law in the back seat during quick turns. ( :D

    Enjoy the article. Hope it answers some of your questions.
    Bill
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    If it's under the rear seat and in front of the rear wheels I'd consider this 'amidship'. I haven't seen it in person yet so I'm open to be corrected but IMO it's centrally located between the wheels and low to the ground.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "If it's under the rear seat and in front of the rear wheels I'd consider this 'amidship'."

    I would too.

    But how much of the trunk is UNDER THE REAR SEAT. And if the battery pack is UNDER THE REAR SEAT, why would the trunk be smaller?

    Perhaps the gas tank was relocated on the hybrid model. Now I'm wondering if the gas tank is under the rear seat on the standard Camry but perhaps it is relocated to a point under the trunk on the hybrid model to make room for the battery pack? That would account for the trunk being smaller on the hybrid even if the battery pack is not under the trunk.
  • And just to add more confusion, how will the fold down rear seats work if a chunk of the trunk volume, to the rear of the seats is battery?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Great question and I don't know. 3 weeks or so.
  • my understanding is that the battery weighs 150 pounds. I wouldn't be worried about lateral sway.
  • As for the fold down rear seat. My dealer in Ottawa, Canada tells me that the diff w/ the seats is that the height opening is less due to the battery placement.
    I'm also looking for a proper picture of this to no avail. I also have heard conflicting stories from 3 different dealers in town. First shipment: end of June, Mid July and late August.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It may be regional but the first ones will hit stores around May 10th and then soon thereafter.
  • Here's a photo of the battery (fifth photo down on left side). It looks to me as if the view is from the rear passenger compartment, with both seats folded down, looking through to the trunk. There is still a modest pass-through area, larger than the tiny pass-through on the XLE.

    It looks as big as the 3+ cubic feet it takes away from the trunk volume.

    (I couldn't figure out how to post the jpg file here so it's a link.)

    link title
  • April 26, 2006 (SmartPros) -- The IRS announced that the 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid ...qualifies for a hybrid tax credit of $2,600.

    Taxpayers may claim the full amount of the allowable credit up to the end of the first calendar quarter after the quarter in which the manufacturer records its sale of the 60,000th vehicle. For the second and third calendar quarters after the quarter in which the 60,000th vehicle is sold, taxpayers may claim 50 percent of the credit. For the fourth and fifth calendar quarters, taxpayers may claim 25 percent of the credit. No credit is allowed after the fifth quarter.
  • degdeg Posts: 14
    Since they are only making 20000 for sale in the states--that is what I was told, sounds like everyone gets full credit. Anyone know if that 20000 units for US is correct for 2006??? :confuse:
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,900
    The 60,000 is for all Toyota/Lexus hybrids combined.
  • Credit? Don't forget it is subject to the Grim Reaper - the Alt Min Tax! So... if you and your partner bust your butts and make a good living, kiss the credit goodbye.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    TCH shipments should average about -
    4000/mo from Japan beginning in May ( 8 x 4000 )
    3000/mo from KY beginning in Nov ( 2 x 3000 )

    I'd estimate about 40000 total units in the US this year. The full credit will expire ( unless extended ) on Sept 30th, when it will go to a 50% credit, then 25% credit in 1st Qtr next year, then zero thereafter ( unless extended by Congress ).

    All subject to AMT as noted above, consult your tax advisor.
  • john312john312 Posts: 24
    I found a link to the same picture but in higher detail link

    Unfortunately I haven't seen one yet from outside the trunk looking in.
  • library1library1 Posts: 54
    I saw the Camry Hybrid at the NY Auto Show. The Battery is located at the front of the trunk, right behind the rear seats and extends above the floor of the rest of the trunk. The pass through is about 2/3rds of the width, starting on the right side of the car. The battery blocks the left side of the space behind the seats. Its really "under" the rear seat head rests, but a good distance below them. The pass-through is like a rectangular tunnel, maybe 7 or 8 inches from front to back, about as high, and (I'm guessing)about 20 inches wide.
  • willybillwillybill Posts: 83
    Thanks for the Picture link John312 ! It appears to be from the cabin with the 60/40 rear seats folded down. It appears we will give up quite a bit of trunk space after all. Oh well, you can't have everything. Hope my golf clubs still fit in the trunk!.
    Bill
  • So the pass thru will handle some 2x4's, skis, but not the electric keyboard.
  • bmgoodmanbmgoodman Posts: 102
    Thank you! This is the ONLY description I have found ANYWHERE and I have really been searching. Did you happen to notice if there are any storage compartments anywhere in the trunk or if the spare tire holder can hold a full size as opposed to just a donut tire?

    Thanks again!
  • library1library1 Posts: 54
    Your welcome- I didn't see any more storage doors or the spare tire, sorry.

    The specs say the trunk is smaller by one third, a little over 10 cu ft. vs 14 for the other Camrys. And the fuel tank is slightly smaller.

    Take a tape measure to your dealer next month! ;) I will!
  • bmgoodmanbmgoodman Posts: 102
    I will take a tape measure, assuming a TCH stays on the lot long enough for me to take a look! If you do get the opportunity, I'd appreciate if you also took a digital camera to get a few shots! I'll do the same if I get the opportunity.
  • from prius.chat....

    Jan-March (Quarter 1) total Toyo/Lexus hybrids sold = 42,175
  • houtex1houtex1 Posts: 82
    I found a picture of the hybrid trunk. It's hard to tell from a picture, but doesn't look too bad. The pass-thru area between the trunk and the cabin does look small small though.

    image
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 734
    "estimated in stock date of June 1st" They don't even have the car yet. Lame
  • This is probably a dumb question, but what does the DISP button do?

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    Thanks in advance!

    Killerpiece :shades:
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