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Toyota Camry Hybrid

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  • willybillwillybill Posts: 83
    My opinion is that while it may take some weeks to get your TCH with the options you desire, it is worth the wait!. I got mine Magnetic grey/ash leather on Saturday and am ecstatic.
    I love it. I am a techno-geek and the toys did it for me!.
    The NAV is VERY nice and really works well and is intuitive.
    The blue tooth quality is outstanding. I now wait till I am in the car to talk on the phone. (shh don't tell anyone.).
    The speed dial setup allows you to call while driving and there is sufficent speed dial spots for just enough emergency or frequent people. I LOVE the ability to use my MP3 player on the AUX input and for me these three things were WELL worth the $1,200 they cost. I would not have gotten one had it been the basic model. I see no downside to any of the devices.. I don't have XM but can see how it would be totally seamless if you did have it. The NAV tracking is right-on and I have no idea where the antenna is unless it is a button like thing at the front of the dashboard. Doesn't matter. It works very well.
    Bill (3rd day owner report) :)
  • hueristixhueristix Posts: 30
    that is correct- not a wives tale.
  • Would anyone know the reason why Nav is not available in any Canadian Camry's ? :mad:

    Toyota Canada sent me a "form letter" stating that due to market research they chose to not include that option !
    I suppose it is too early to find out if the Canadian cars have the wiring in them to accept Nav, or if the display would correctly switch between U.S. and imperial measurements.

    Oh by the way the Nav does have the data for Canada.

    Thanks in advance for any info. :D
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    I just ordered a TCH today and hanging from the mirror was a card showing options available. The NAV was shown. The dealer "thinks" that it will be available at some point as was done in other models and would be dealer installed item. They take the WHOLE radio out...do what you wish...and install the NAV. They "think" $2-3000 CDN...(I am in Ottawa.)

    Eric
  • Hi Eric, was wondering which dealer you used and what options you got on your TCH. I'm in Ottawa too and picked mine up (Orleans) on Fri.
  • ggav73ggav73 Posts: 31
    I got my base TCH on 06/02/06 at 6:30 pm, about 3 days ago. The car is great, I really like it a lot. The color, Titanium Metallic is amazing. I will write here some of my observations (from my novice level) after 3 days. At the beginning the car had 16 miles on it, with a disappointing 18mpg per tank. I brought it up to 36.6 mpg after total of 360 miles, 250 on highway and 110 during several trips in town, multiple stop lights and bumper-to-bumper traffic. The shorter the trip, the lower the mpg. The bluetooth communicates well with my Razr, I was really scared when it rang first time, I did not know what is going on. The trunk size is small, but I expected it, if I wanted trunk I would have bought a pick-up. I did not notice any jerking on the highway at 65-70-75 mpg, it is interesting how some people feel this, some don't, including one gentleman who posted earlier saying he felt the jerking only on one-way of his round trip(!). Compared to the speed shown by my TOM TOM Palm GPS Navigator, the speedometer is 3mph more, but I noticed this with all other cars I drove-Passat, 325XI, PT Cruiser, Mini Cooper(my previous one). I tried to put my i Pod through AUX, sounds well, but I can't use any of the commands of the sound system, except volume. The owner manual says that it is AUX for MP3/WMA player, so i Pod is not mentioned, but I still don't mind. The AUX cable can be passed very neatly through the storage box to the pocket on the passenger side pillar. I noticed, compared to other cars, an impressive ability of the FM antenna to receive radio signal, 40-50 miles farther from the point the signal was usually dropping. While I was pulling out of a parking, ascending ramp quite steep, on the electric engine, after a stop I noticed a tendency of the car to roll back. This was the only negative aspect of my last 3 days of interaction with the car. Overall, a very positive experience, I will start posting my mileage at greenhybrid.com.
  • jjfcincyjjfcincy Posts: 7
    Terrific response. Sounds like I would give up a lot of funtionality without the NAV. I too want the same color exterior and interior car you have but sounds like I may have to wait a while as the midwest is getting a really small allocation at this point(I am in Cincinnati). Did you get a new phone when you got the TCH? How is the mileage so far?
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    Hi,
    I ordered it today at TG. I am not sure if I am making the correct decision in colour as I got the Aloe Green Metallic with the B package and Bisque leather. I actually prefer the Magnetic Grey but wanted a lighter interior after getting out of a Camry SE with a black interior.
    I asked about the GPS Nav system and I think I can swap out the radio (at great cost) if I want to add the Nav when it arrives...who knows when.
    Do you have the issue that I have experienced and that is that the ICE starts right at moving forward and does so with a shudder? When it starts while moving, you really don't notice it...but at take off it happens with a noticable shudder. I drove a Hylander Hybrid today and it was so smooth that there was virtually NO discernable switchover!I am concerned about this.
    What colour/options did you get?

    Eric
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    Re your IPOD...do you have the adapter cable option that is available? If not, while I may be incorrect I think I saw that there is one available and may solve your issues.
  • ggav73ggav73 Posts: 31
    I have a cable that has a jack on each end. Is there another cable I should know about? Please let me know if you have more details.
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    I am pretty sure I saw an option available at the dealer that was specifically for the ipod. It is worth checking the option list at the dealer or on the web....OK! I just looked in the brochure for the Camry and in the options is an "adapter / interface cable for ipod".
    I am not sure what it does, however.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Be careful. Unless the specs are different in Canada the Aloe Green is not a Hybrid color. It's the Jasper Green that's the hybrid. Double check that so that you aren't surprised when it arrives.
  • houtex1houtex1 Posts: 82
    Got my TCH tonight. Barcelona Red, ash interior, fully loaded. Paid MSRP and dealer thru in tinted windows. Can't tell you how excited I am. I couldn't wait to get out of the dealership. The whole process took over two hours which was unexpected and a bit painful. They try to sell you the extended warranty like three different times, try to offer you other financing etc. Besides that, I am a very happy camper right now.

    I didn't really know what I was doing driving home in the dark. There are a lot of gadgets to learn. I'll be posting my impressions in the coming days.

    Thanks to all for keeping this board going with such useful information!
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    I am thinking about buying a TCH and have only driven one with the nav. Does the non-nav TCH have the LCD Screen also (to display fuel economy and Synergy drive status?)

    Thanks

    tom
  • hueristixhueristix Posts: 30
    I am starting to get the hang of this thing... while my previous best was 32mpg... my new best average is 99.9 and my tank average is rising!

    Ok, fine, I figured out how to trick the computer by recording an extremely short time. The weird thing is I went about 1/2 mile from there, on level to slightly sloped down road, a couple of stop signs, and got 75 mpg.

    There is an art to riding the pedal just enough. Personally what helped out a lot is the mini energy flow display you can put under the spedometer. The big one is cool, but too distracting. The mini is the way to go! I now see what others were saying about accelerating just enough to keep the electric going.

    To all of you considering one: here is another gem- you dont have to replace the brake pads for (I believe it is) 100,000 miles!
  • hueristixhueristix Posts: 30
    I do not have a rattle in my TCH, and I consider myself sensitive to these things. Maybe I lucked out.

    The radio is top notch, I bumped the treble up and it sounds great; it is just that I want more bands than 3 in the equalizer. Come on, Toyota programmers, put it in there!

    While I do hear some weird electrical noises I dont hear in other cars, the manual explains this is normal. I don't mind at all. I would describe these as whirs, hums, and clicks. Some occur after you park for a bit. We are talking quiet subtle noises here. And I can hear GMC's whining from 1/2 block away, SERIOUSLY.

    With the windows closed even 80mph is smooth and quiet.

    Ears are happy with this choice.
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    Hi and thanks...I guess then there are more diiferences than NAV not being available as an option in Canada. Aloe is available here in both Bisque fabric and Leather. I drove that combination yesterday. Because the colors were different to say the least, I matched the color sample card to the paint on the car to be sure when I first drove it last Friday. Jasper Pearl is available here too in the same combinations.
    I just wonder what other differences there are/
  • ericottawaericottawa Posts: 19
    I am in Canada where the NAV is NOT available. In the speedometer area there is a mini (as someone put it) display that shows the energy to and from the ICE, electric motor and battery. This is similar to the large display and since I have not seen the larger one, the smaller one may not show all the info. Here, the radio display is quite a bit smaller than the NAV display.I assume that it is the same in the USA. However I would see one for sure .
  • gc77584gc77584 Posts: 65
    In the speedometer area there is a mini (as someone put it) display that shows the energy to and from the ICE, electric motor and battery.

    That sounds about right. I think it's called the ECO drive monitor (I like "mini energy flow display") and pressing the Display button on the steering wheel cycles through all 8 or 9 possible displays. From what I've read elsewhere, I don't think it has everything that the Nav display does.

    On the non-nav display by the speedometer: one screen shows a graphic representation with arrows of what's powering the wheels (gas &/or battery) or whether the wheels are feeding the battery (coasting, braking). One screen shows your gas consumption in est. mpg for the current trip. That's in bar graph format. One display shows the average mpg for the current tank (resets each time you add fuel). One display shows how many more miles it thinks you can drive on the current tank of gas. There are a couple of odometer displays. I can't think of the others off the top of my head...
  • cal_calcal_cal Posts: 39
    I got about 37 mpg at 65 mph but in colder weather (40 F outside) and little ethanol winter mix. So, the TCH and HAH may be comparable in MPG on the highway for identical conditions. I think the TCH really outshines the Accord in the city, where I've rarely gotten better than 25 mpg.

    The noise canceller has worked fine in my car even in three cylinder operation. Some folks have complained and there was a Honda fix to that (Change front speakers and some such thing).
  • cal_calcal_cal Posts: 39
    I bought mine in July 05 and got it at $600 below invoice way back then and was happy with the deal. The lowest I have seen is someone who posted a purchase two months ago at close to $2000 below invoice.
  • tsytsy Posts: 1,551
    Thanks guys!

    I wasn't sure if the TCH had a screen like the Prius. It must be mesmerizing looking at the screen instead of driving!

    tom
  • In the speedometer area there is a mini (as someone put it) display that shows the energy to and from the ICE, electric motor and battery.

    That sounds about right. I think it's called the ECO drive monitor (I like "mini energy flow display") and pressing the Display button on the steering wheel cycles through all 8 or 9 possible displays. From what I've read elsewhere, I don't think it has everything that the Nav display does.

    I dialed up the "mini energy display" under the speedo during my road trip. In general it is useful, but I was surprised that it did not display the mode where ICE is driving the car and recharging the battery simultaneously. In that scenario, you do not see an arrow showing energy flow to the battery on the mini-display, but the Energy flow screen on the main LCD does show it.

    FYI.
  • I do not have a rattle in my TCH, and I consider myself sensitive to these things. Maybe I lucked out.

    While I do hear some weird electrical noises I dont hear in other cars, the manual explains this is normal. I don't mind at all. I would describe these as whirs, hums, and clicks. Some occur after you park for a bit. We are talking quiet subtle noises here. And I can hear GMC's whining from 1/2 block away, SERIOUSLY.

    With the windows closed even 80mph is smooth and quiet.

    Ears are happy with this choice.


    I agree that the noises the car makes (including the vent "rattle" that I heard once or twice) are subtle, quiet, and generally non-obtrusive. Nothing (including the brief 70 mph lurching) made me think "This will drive me crazy". Not even close!

    The ride is very smooth, a combination of good suspension and tall tire sidewalls. I still think a major component of TCH freeway noise is the A/C fan. I manually turned it down a few times, and was surprised just how much quieter it was that way. With the stereo cranked, all extraneous noise is a moot point, anyway. :)
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Posts: 1,978
    No as much so, as the aquarium screen saver option!
  • hueristixhueristix Posts: 30
    Well looks like I will go with AAA. (that is stay with AAA)
    They want $847 a year for full coverage with $500 deductibles.

    Allstate wanted $750/ 2 months

    Everywhere else, farmers, progressive, etc, wanted about $980.

    I also get 10% off by having a renter's insurance through them.

    Only one thing gives me pause- doesnt Allstate do a "New Car Replacement"? :confuse: (couldn't find it on the site)
  • bmgoodmanbmgoodman Posts: 102
    I just found crash test ratings for the 2007 Camry at www.safercar.gov (apparently NHTSA). The new Camry gets 5 stars for front impact for both driver and passenger. It also gets 5 stars for side impact for both front seat and rear seat. Awesome! Rollover rating is 4 stars.

    I cannot provide a direct link. It looks like you have to step through the drop-down menus.
  • gc77584gc77584 Posts: 65
    I just found crash test ratings for the 2007 Camry at www.safercar.gov (apparently NHTSA). The new Camry gets 5 stars for front impact for both driver and passenger. It also gets 5 stars for side impact for both front seat and rear seat. Awesome! Rollover rating is 4 stars.

    I cannot provide a direct link. It looks like you have to step through the drop-down menus.


    Try this - it's not the list, but takes you directly (I hope) to the 2007 Camry:

    http://www.safercar.gov/NCAP/Cars/3845.html
  • lungdoc63lungdoc63 Posts: 55
    As anybody looked at putting fog lights found on the other Camrys? If so, what was the cost. My dealer wanted $650 I said no thanks.
  • lungdoc63lungdoc63 Posts: 55
    I tried to get a spoiler added to my Camry - was told the part is not available yet for dealer. Is this true? I was told the cars with spoiler I have seen (non-hybrid) came that way from the factory.
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