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Midsize Pickup Comparo

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  • 5553543255535432 Posts: 150
    Toykick,

    After reviewing many of the conversations that you participate in, I have come to the conclusion that you are not a fan of the Honda Ridgeline. My question to you is, from what qualified educational institution (college or university) did you acquire your engineering degree from? You seem to be extremely passionate about your Toyota Tacoma, which in the correct forum would not underestimate the intelligence of your intended audience, as you have attempted to do in this forum. You clearly feel that "your" facts are true, however they appear to merely be opinion. Evidently, your distaste for Ridgeline influences your ability to have a intelligent discussion. In other words these are big boy discussions try not to let that overwhelm you. Thank you, I look forward to hearing more from as you have made these discussions entertaining.

    I second that.

    And if theirs such a thing as I third that then I third that.

    No matter how passionate Toykick is with his Tacoma, theirs no way in this world that any Toyota product could touch the Ridgeline in terms of awards and and all around versatility ON IT'S FIRST TRY.AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT MOST OF THESE AWARD GIVING BODIES ARE REAL GENUINE AUTHORITIES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS AND NOT SOME self proclaimed ENGINEER.

    TOYKICK TRY MATCHING YOUR TACOMA WITH THE FOLLOWING, LET ME START WITH 2005 MT TRUCK OF THE YEAR, WHAT NEXT?

    THE RIDGELINE ON THE OTHER HAND.

    1-Motor Trend truck of the year 2006

    2-Detroit News truck of the year 2006

    3-Consumer Reports top rated truck

    4-JD Power & Associates 2005 APEAL award for the Honda Ridgeline

    5-Autobytel 2006 Editors' Choice Award: Truck of the year 2006

    6-Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) Best New Pickup 2006

    7-On Wheels Incorporated: Ridgeline 2006 Urban Wheel Award for the Urban Truck of the Year

    8-best rollover resistance rating of any pickup tested by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA)

    9-first-ever 4-door pickup to earn a 5-star safety rating for both front and side impact crash test performance from the U.S. National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).

    10-Car And Driver Rates Honda Ridgeline #1 Pickup.

    11- AutoWeek Editors' Choice Award as the 'Most Significant' new vehicle in the show.

    12.Society of plastic engineers 2005 awards.
    :shades:

    NOW TRY MATCHING ALL THOSE 12 MANO A MANO. :sick:

    GOOD LUCK.
  • ogre01ogre01 Posts: 15
    Toykick, you have provided quite a bit of entertainment and also plenty of misinformation along with it. As a proud owner of a '06 Tacoma 2x4 DC LB, I too love my Taco but not to the point of being blinded by the equally talented Ridgeline. The Ridgeline is meant for the city truck market and it delivers in spades. I loved the roominess, who doesn't love that smartly engineered "trunk"+tailgate and all the standards at their base level. Went with the Taco since it sported a slightly better MPG rating, didn't really need the AWD or 4x4 ability, and longer bed for the times I run around with 8 ft. stock.

    Variety in products is what makes having choices great. Don't get blinded by a brand, you'd just be sucked into corporate hype not to mention Bush facts as you already have a penchant for quoting just to make your case. Although I'd never stray far from a Honda or Toyota since their reliability is legendary, witnessed first hand by the 87 accord and the 92 corolla in my stable.

    I do hope Honda provides a non awd version. I feel that unless one is really in the deep stuff, 4x2 is all that's really needed and for the slightly more challenging situation, a pair of chains will come in handily. Especially when that pushes the MPG higher for the majority of drivers who drive paved roads.

    Just my 2 cents.
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    05 motor trend truck of the year was the Tacoma. 06 is ridgeline... Motor trend didnt bother adding the tacoma into the comparison.

    Car and driver.. well i've posted #s and other figures look them up.

    "First-ever 4-door pickup to earn 5 star safety rating" - Well the 05 tacoma double cab & nissan frontier havent been tested as extensive as the ridgeline on the NHTSA website. Reg cab and extended cab version of the tacoma were only tested and got 5 stars frontal and 5 stars side impact, frontiers crew cab was tested, 05 High way crash tests ranked the tacoma best pick over the frontier, dakota, ranger, colorado & canyon. Ridgeline hasn't been yet tested...

    i'll post the rest later ;)
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    i wouldnt say i'm blind loyal... i've posted several facts and most people like to believe its b.s.

    for example those 12 sites... is where most of the info/specs i've posted is provided.
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    hmmm... Great first post. Nice marketing ogre01
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    High way crash tests ranked the tacoma best pick over the frontier, dakota, ranger, colorado & canyon. Ridgeline hasn't been yet tested...

    Actually, it didn't get a best pick. It just got a "Good" rating.

    Reg cab and extended cab version of the tacoma were only tested and got 5 stars frontal and 5 stars side impact

    I can't seem to find this information. Please supply the site. I didn't know the Tacoma had 5 star's on both front and side.

    i've posted several facts and most people like to believe its b.s.

    It seems the information you've just posted are merely baseless statements.
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    link title

    yep baseless statements i guess...

    "Not yet tested"
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/ncap/Index2.cfm

    first ever pick up to get 5 stars front & side?

    05 same results... Nissan only has its crew cab tested and not ext. or reg cab. and ranked 4 stars frontal & 5 side for gov. tests

    link title
  • ctalkctalk Posts: 646
    I apologize, I actually couldn't find the safety test.

    I searched on the site
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    rubiconxpress - great first post... you almost put the fake members on nissans forum to shame... i like seeing the endless posts of opinions and made up stories. it makes great marketing.. APC Perfomance products are looking for people like you!

    you should contact them

    link title
  • Toykick,
    Responding to this post is a challenge, for the mere fact that is senseless babble, as are most of your responses when you are questioned on your information. For someone who apparently knows little to nothing about the vehicle they are driving, you certainly have a lot to say. Clearly, you struggle with innovation and technology, which is ok the rest of us will provide factual information to post. One more tip, try using capitals when beginning a sentence, it will make easier to see where the b.s begins and ends. Thanks again for the entertainment.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If we can get back to the trucks, though, without the baseless comments? I saw this on another board, and it seemed to calm things down. Feel free to participate.

    :D First, state your favorite truck of the five listed.

    :cry: Second, name two things you'd change about it if you could.

    :surprise: Third, name one good thing about each of the competitors.

    :blush: Fourth, take a deep breath, and get over yourself, you are one in many posters!

    Have a nice (I don't mean a good one, I mean NICE) day, guys (and girls if there are any in this forum).
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    My favorite truck here is the Ridgeline.

    I wish it delivered better gas mileage and had smoother front end styling.

    The GM twins are a value priced midsize truck.
    The Dodge delivers big V-8 torque at V-6 prices.
    Nissan is the best looking truck here.
    The Toyota has multiple configurations to make it easy to pick the model you need.

    DONE!
  • Great idea!
    For my current needs, I like the Frontier SE 4x4, which is why I have one.
    I would change about my Nissan:
    Tires. I hate low-quality tires.
    Paint: I hear this about many new vehicles. Due to environmental concerns (So I've read), paint has some different content that makes it easier to chip. Though it is not a huge concern, I'd like tougher paint.

    Good things about other trucks:
    Colorado: I like how they look with the black fender flares. The front end is nice, too.
    Toyota: It'll be durable over the long haul, most likely. I used to have a Tacoma, and still would if it wasn't totaled.
    Ridgeline: Well suited for city-duty and family-duty, which for many is necessary. Long-term Honda reliability is great. I have had many Hondas.
    Dakota: Has a good payload rating, I think.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The vehicle I admire most would probably be the Tacoma. It takes the basic truck recipe and improved it without taking anything away. It's not the most innovative, but it also has the fewest compromises. The package as a whole is well-balanced.

    I think the handling could be improved and there's a list of safety features which should be standard.

    (The truck I'd buy is the Ridgeline. While I admire the Tacoma, I just don't need all of its utility.)

    Happy thoughts...

    The Frontier appears to be the queen of the dirt trails.

    The Dakota sort of invented the mid-size truck category.

    The Colorado is a terrific value for those on a budget.

    The Ridgeline simply outclasses the rest on the road.
  • 5553543255535432 Posts: 150
    05 motor trend truck of the year was the Tacoma. 06 is ridgeline... Motor trend didnt bother adding the tacoma into the comparison.

    Car and driver.. well i've posted #s and other figures look them up.

    "First-ever 4-door pickup to earn 5 star safety rating" - Well the 05 tacoma double cab & nissan frontier havent been tested as extensive as the ridgeline on the NHTSA website. Reg cab and extended cab version of the tacoma were only tested and got 5 stars frontal and 5 stars side impact, frontiers crew cab was tested, 05 High way crash tests ranked the tacoma best pick over the frontier, dakota, ranger, colorado & canyon. Ridgeline hasn't been yet tested...

    i'll post the rest later
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    LATER? WHEN? IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS? A CENTURY MAYBE.GOOD LUCK :sick:
  • ogre01ogre01 Posts: 15
    First, my favorite would have to be the Tacoma, much more selection to get the truck you want or need.

    Second, I would like to see a manual for the V6 available with better mileage and for the 2x4. More visibility out the front would be great as well, The way it's currently configured, the rear view mirror get's in the way if you are peeping right at a four way stop and it's pretty much a front down view, have to duck to see up. (Good thing it's high up as a PreRunner ;))

    Third, Ridgeline: I like the storage bin in back and the unique tailgate. Frontier: Lots of options and almost went with that. American Entries: Not much to say, had a '89 S-15 and loved it.

    Fourth, deep breath taken. :)

    Toykick, I apologize if it seemed like I was marketing for Honday and Toyota, that was just my opinion. However I do support and like the variety available for everyone to pick what they like. Everything else is just opinion and asinine "marketing figures". Above all, I don't want the same car on the road, everywhere. It would be a terribly bland landscape if that were the same case.
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    Responding to this post is a challenge, for the mere fact that is senseless babble, as are most of your responses when you are questioned on your information

    yep i guess its babble. Even though i have several sources to back it up :P

    which is ok the rest of us will provide factual information to post.
    ok smart guy tell me what false information i've provided?
    best pick was erased for 06 on hwy crash tests on their website. i'll admit 05 mpg mileage for the vvti tundra are wrong "online". drivers average 19+, dont believe me go to Tundrasolutions.com. As for the v8 silverado. well i'm still waiting for a response..
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    C&D tested the long bed version of the tacoma which has a larger wheel base then the crew cab titan. Any idiot knows a long [non-permissible content removed] truck isnt going to handle as well... and the funniest crap was the #s. Slalom times were better for the Long bed double cab tacoma then both frontier and ridgeline... but was scored third for sloppy handling lol give me a break.

    Trailer boats has 1/4mile and 0-60 towing times for all midsized trucks. The Ridgeline was praised on their site also but they pointed out that the ridgeline wouldnt of won towing truck of the year because it was the slowest in the comparison vs. the previous tested midsized trucks... They tested the dakota, tacoma, frontier, ranger, colorado and the tacoma had the best towing times of the bunch... even edmunds admits that... The ridgeline is an urban truck for soccer moms. Its only useful for groceries and small home depot runs... Offroading is off limits, washboard roads arnt ;)
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    hey ogre01 great 2nd post!!! Welcome to edmunds!
  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    hey varmit... so does the v8 silverado waste more gas then the ridgeline?
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