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Toyota Tundra Towing Questions

cyclone7cyclone7 Posts: 6
edited July 28 in Chevrolet
I own a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500 Ext.Cab 4x4 with the 4.8L V8.I have a hybrid camper that has a wt. of about 3500#.With the truck and camper, loaded I'm probably looking at about 4500#.I often wish that I had a little more power.I am now shopping for a new truck and I have narrowed my selections to a 2006 Chevy Silverado Ext.Cab 4x4 with the 310 HP 5.3L and a 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 Double Cab 4x4.Price,reliability,four full doors,warranty and fuel mileage have me leaning towards the Toyota.I know that the Chevy would have no problem towing my camper but I'm not sure about the Toyota.It has less HP(271 vs. 285) but more torque(313 vs. 295) than my GMC.Will the Toyota pull our hills of PA better than my GMC?Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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  • toykicktoykick Posts: 104
    lol it would pull it with no problem... but if i were you i would wait...
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    I believe the Tundra is good for about 7500 lbs, so this camper should be no problem.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    You might have your numbers wrong on the Chevy. The newer 4.8's have 285hp. I have an '03 4.8L and it's 270hp at 5200rpm. Essentially the same as the Tundra. But the torque is better on the Tundra. I have the same concern as you. I have an '03 ext. cab 4x4 with 3.73 gears and 265x75-16's. I know the Tundra/Chevy are rated for 7,000+ on towing, but let's be realistic. I don't like my engines to be struggling and I have no doubt both of these engines would be gasping for breath with that much weight. Plus I'm used to towing with a diesel. I use my 1/2 ton for a light-weight cargo trailer, usually 4,000# or so. The 4.8L moves it pretty good on the hwy, but it's working hard on the back hills. I think the Tundra will do a little better with the torque and 5-speed auto. I swore I wouldn't buy another small V8, but I found a good deal on a used Tundra so I might go for it. I'm going to drive one today. My wife has this same engine in her Lexus and it's no pulling machine, but I think it will do what I need.
  • Cyclone7,
    I'm in the same boat... I drove the Tundra, loved it and I didn't think I was going to like it because it very bland but functional inside. As well, when it comes to towing you just can never have enough "beef". My concern is that I tow a Jeep CJ7 that weighs loaded around 4400lbs with a tool box (150 lbs.) on the tongue of my tandem axle trailer Bri-Mar trailer that I put my CJ7 on when I go to Jeep Jamboree's. I want a truck that I can drive everyday with ultimate reliability for the price manufacturers are charging for these vehicles as well as decent fuel mileage for everyday use. I only Tow about 10 times a year with this heavy load and I can't decide between the Tundra or the Chevy/GMC half ton Crew Cab. My goal, get decent fuel mileage, easy to drive, be extremely comfortable, ease of towing and something that I can drive everyday and have the ability to put professional work colleagues and customers in it if the need should arise with my work. Anything you find out would be great. I think the two vehicles drive much differently and the Chevy had some nice creature comfort features but their viability and inconsistent quality is what concerns me about their product.

    bsr7696@yahoo.com
  • Id go for the Tundra because Tundra can tow up to 7,100 pounds and you have to tow a 4500 pound camper so go with the Tundra. The Tundra also has better torque ratings than the Silverado/Sierra and tows with no difficulty.
  • ma23peasma23peas Posts: 4
    We have had our Tundra Double Cab with tow package and goodies for 3 weeks now...yep, we LOVE it!!! There is more room in the back for our 3 children than in the Camry...very nice and roomy...when you have the moonroof/back window/all windows down it's like driving a convertible! :) Love it! Okay, yes I'm a girl, what can I say. But my dear husband is sold on it as well and swears when our Sienna bites the dust we'll get another truck...one truck in the family is enough...that's where we differ! :)

    Over the next 6 months we will be researching, buying, and outfitting our Tundra for towing a travel trailer...I'm trying my hardest to find a TT that is under 5,000 pounds but I think we'll be lucky to find one under 5500 that will fit our family of five and 2 dogs. We'll have to learn to pack really light..no water, no groceries, just a few clothes to get us going and pillows and covers for the bed...try living on plastic cups and such until we find our true weight.

    But, I must admit I had delusions of a bigger tow potential...hey, I can get 1600 in my truck and tow 7000...sure on paper...but not TOGETHER!! Only when I dug deeper did I realize with trailer and truck contents I can't exceed 11,800...truck weighs about 4,800 (need to weigh it for sure)...family, dogs and bikes weigh about 800 pounds and growing! so now I'm at 5600...figure on about 100 for propane and hitch equipment...now at 5700...clothes and gear about 500 now at 6200...so the max trailer we can pull would be 5600 pounds!!! EEK! I was hoping to have us only pulling 11,000 and be on the underside of that weight...need to find a 5000 or less trailer bad...

    And footage...I have found a few 4800 pound trailers that would be great but they're pushing 30 feet long...my wheelbase says 26.5 would be perfect..is is safe to push it if I have the dual cam Reese set up? Think Hensley arrow is overkill for our situation...but would entertain opinions on that as well..

    Just posting to say that over the next year, I'll have a purchase and bad/good experiences to put down to help others...for now I love my Tundra! :)

    Tara
  • toucanettoucanet Posts: 9
    What is this and is it necessary for towing a boat or trailer?
  • ma23peasma23peas Posts: 4
    First, let me correct myself...I was using the 11,800 number as max GCWR...but my owners manual says 12,600 for DC 2x4 with tow package...so I'm going with that number...please check your owner manual for any differing numbers....

    The limited slip differential as explained to me is a helpful thing if you get stuck...rather than having a wheel spin and getting sunk...the slip differential balances out something that makes it less likely for you to sit and spin your tires out...so in short, less likely for you to get stuck in the mud. HOw's that for technical? :)

    Tara
  • sc_mikesc_mike Posts: 5
    I hear the 2007 Tundra is to have an optional turbo diesel plus a 5.6 gas engine... ? I bought mine, then traded up to a larger boat. Still waiting on my boat to arrive at 4k lbs plus all the gear to load down for vacations...Stay tuned.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    No diesel for '07 (all rumors beyond that) but it does get a 5.7L gasser. Edmunds has more on it HERE!
  • tundradudetundradude Posts: 588
    I have been towing with my Tundra for the last 4 and a half years, and I also towed with my V6 Tundra before that.

    Even though mine (truck) has 7200 capacity, my RV only weighs 4750 dry. I am actually selling it, but the secret is aluminum to keep the weight down.

    You need to leave some breathing room like 1000 lbs in your GCWR. Having said that, my V6 Tundra was at the limit and did not have a problem. Its limit was 9250.

    The first camping trip in my V8, I had a panic stop, which the truck did real nicely, but that camper is going to push that truck until it stops.
  • I have owned other Toyota trucks, and I am suspect of the Tundra transmissions's ability to stand up under stress in the long term. I never towed with my vehicle and never carried heavy loads. Maintained the transmission in line with the maintenance schedule.
    I had to have it replaced at 87000 miles.
    Considering the light duty and maintenance, I don't think it should have failed. I spoke to Toyota national, and they indicated I was on my own for the cost of the repair.
    Be careful with Toyota transmissions after the warranty runs out. Some people may be talking about making it to 100000 miles and beyond, but it's not worth the risk of the replacement costs after 60000 miles. Toyota transmissions: :lemon: and the company will not support after 60000 has been my experience.
  • I have owned both the silverado 1500 and the tundra. I traded the tundra in after the tranny failed at 63000. Toyota would do nothing. I do not use the truck hard but I do put a lot of miles on with the occasional load. Toyota trannys are week and really should not be used if you are going to do any hauling. My silverdo on the other hand will do just about anything you ask it to do. I have now have 165000 miles on the tranny and not problems with hauling in the silverado. I asked a good friend of mine who is a mechanic and he told me the only truck that has a decent transmission is GM. I value his opinion and he is a great mechanic. I would also look under the forum for the tundra-it seems that a lot of people have tranny problems with it. Buyers be warned-buy the silverado
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    You realize we can search your posts?? Yesterday your Silverado had 145k miles, today it has 165k. You really drive a lot!! And you never mentioned owning a Toyota yesterday, when you were saying you'd never even consider buying a "wanna-be" truck. I think if you actually owned (drove, or even sat in a Tundra or the Supra you were bad mouthing previously) you'd probably have a different opinion. A transmission guy I know says they ALL suck. ;)
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    or were posts #15 and 16 written by the same person. The writing style and content is identical.

    You sure are going a long way to bad mouth the Tundra. Do you know why there are so many posts complaining about the Tundra in these forums ( I'm sure you can guess ;) ) ...you wrote them all.

    Your efforts are like screaming at the wind to stop.
  • 12ga12ga Posts: 9
    Hello, I'm considering the purchase of an '03 Tundra 4x4 Access Cab V6 with manual tranny from a dealer. It doesn't have the tow package.

    What does the tow package include? Does anyone have experience towing a trailor with a Tundra that doesn't have the tow package? Thanks.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    Tow package usually consists of the hitch, trailer wiring, and extra transmission coolers for the automatic. Not sure if they do anything extra for the manual tranny or not. I believe the manual tranny V6 is rated to tow around 5,000#. If you're not pulling that for long distances, I think a hitch/wiring is all you'll really need.
  • The Edmunds site says of the 2007 Tundra: "Long-bed versions of the Double Cab SR5 also get towing preparation (which includes a tow/haul mode for the transmission and manually extendable exterior mirrors."

    Does anyone know if any other 2007 Tundras come with this towing package?
  • labaylabay Posts: 1
    I have a 05 tundra 6 cyl automatic, and am thinking of towing a boat weighing around 5000lbs across the country. any advise regarding if this is possible with an automatic transmission.
  • First with a trailer that big, im guessing the tongue weight might be a little more than that tundra can safely handle even with a weight distributing hitch. Also, since you're traveling cross country, I would imagine there will be hills to traverse. This will tax your engine to the max. Also, since it's a V6, i doubt the rear gearing is set up for towing from the factory. One of the most over looked parts of towing, is the brakes. That model year tundra already has brake problems on its own, add to that a 5,000lb trailer, and you're just asking for trouble. Accomplishing this task with a 4.7L V8 Tundra would be hard enough, let alone one with a V6. For this task, I would rent something bigger or ask a buddy with a larger truck.
  • Does anyone know if any other 2007 Tundras come with this towing package?

    According to the "Tundra 2007" brochure (38 pages), on page 32, the Tow Package has a footnote #5 that says, Standard on Long Bed.

    Footnote #5 is for Reg Cab: Base V8 and SR5 V8, Double Cab: SR5 V8 and Limited V8.

    Mike
  • mule2mule2 Posts: 11
    To the person that said Gm transmisson was the best. I bought a new 2004 chev.z-71. Had a Rear end put in it shortly after i bought it.Had To Use lemon law to get it replaced. The transmisson made a noise when it shift from 2nd to 3rd & when it shifted back from 3rd to 2nd.they gave me a bulletin stating the noise & stating that it had been doing the same thing for several yr. models including 2007 & do not attempt to repair. I bought a new tundra hope i will never have to buy again.
  • GM transmissions have generally been thought of as the best over the years. Lately this has not been the case in the 4L60E trans they put in the 1500's like the one you had. The '98 and before 4L60's usually averaged about 150,000 miles before any major maintenance was required. They tried to save a buck with the '99 and up light duty transmissions and they've had problems ever since. But the 4L80E's are still rock solid and their Allison line is pretty stout as well. I wish you luck with your new Tundra as it looks like a winner on paper, but the new trans have already been reported to be having some problems, and the previous Tundra had plenty of problems with their trans as well.
  • ltdan2ltdan2 Posts: 17
    i have a 07,longbed,5.7 4-door,loaded 8ft. sunlite slidein, 2h-d roadkings on a 10ft. trailer towed from n.georgia to sturgis s.d. with no problems
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    If you've got the towing package, you should be fine. I'm not positive what the tow limits are for the V6 model, you'd have to refer to your owners manual. But I've pulled 5,000# trailers with less powerful V6's before and they were alright. It won't be a fast trip, but you'll make it fine assuming the rest of the truck is rated for it. I have the 4.7L V8 so I've got alot more power, but the truck itself handles 5,000# as well as any of my previous 1/2 tons. In fact, I've had 9,000# behind it before and it was just as stable as my other 1/2 tons (which were overloaded as well...). And while some early model Tundras had brake problems, I've seen no issues on anything as new as an '05. Mine do a find job, but with 5,000# you need a trailer with brakes anyway.
  • I tow a 5500 lb boat and when I retire,soon I hope, intend to purchase and tow a 27' to 30' camper trailer ( I don't know how much they weigh). I am considering purchasing either the new Tundra with the 5.7L V8 or a GM
    Duramax diesel. I know that the Duramax will tow anything I purchase but I don't know how much weight the Trundra will tow comfortably--I know it is rated for over 10,000 lbs. but was wondering if anyone had actually towed, over a variety of flat and hilly roads, 8,000 to 9,000 lbs trailers with the new Tundra?
  • I am moving to Phoenix, AZ from Charleston, SC and i want to tow my 20' boat with a rough weight of about 3500 lb with dual axled trailer evenly distributed weight. I have a 2006 Tundra 4.7L V8 with towing package. It's roughly 2200 miles to Phoenix from where i live. But i'm worried about the transmission being able to tow it that long of a distance. It pulls the boat with no problem, hardly going over 2,000 rpms stop and go. Any thoughts on this? I really appreciate it.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,232
    Your truck is rated to tow 6,500# so I don't see any reason to be concerned with this. If the transmission can't handle such an easy job, then it was destined to early failure so you might as well get one while it's under warranty.
  • mule4mule4 Posts: 36
    I have a 07 tundra 5.7; 4 wheel drive off road. I pull a 34' jayco eagle dry weight 7700, Loaded weight 9500# I had it pretty much loaded. we went to the Ozark Mtns.it did a good job.I had a dodge cummins diesel 4 wheel drive that was a good truck . I beleive the tundra will pull with it.The reason i went for the gas burner was the higher price for diesel.I would buy the cummins motor over any other diesel engine.
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