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GM, Ford, Toyota, Honda...Who will sell you your next car?

reddogsreddogs Posts: 353
Gm and Ford finally turned around the skid in sales since they put the regular prices back up after summer. The bright job market outlook and the uptick in consumer confidence, and recent signs the economy has bounced back from the Gulf Coast hurricanes along with its new pricing policies boosted sales. But Japanese companies grabbed more of the market share in January, dampening the good news for U.S. automakers who enjoyed their first monthly sales increases since employee discount deals ended last summer.

Toyota Motor Corp. said its January sales were up 14 percent, largely because of increases in the sales of the Prius hybrid as well as gains in the Scion brand. Toyota also bucked a trend toward lower truck and sport utility vehicle sales, reporting a 13 percent increase for those vehicles.

Honda Motor Co. said its sales were up 20.7 percent in January, its eighth consecutive record-breaking month. Honda reported strong sales of its cars especially the 2006 Honda Civic as well as its SUV's and trucks. Honda saw sales of its truck and SUV up 15 percent, while car sales rose nearly 25 percent.

GM had a 5.8 percent increase due to strong car sales. Truck sales were flat for the year, although GM saw a 23 percent rise in full-size SUV sales as its redesigned SUV's hit the market. GM is depending on its new lineup of SUVs to boost sales this year. GM also lowered prices on most of its vehicles and is trying to stress value instead of relying on incentives which hurt their profits.

Ford on the other hand saw its sales rise 2.7 percent in January from sales of its new lineup of mid-size sedans. Ford, Lincoln and Mercury brand car sales rose 23 percent from last January mostly from new sedans that went on sale last fall, the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan and Lincoln Zephyr. Ford’s truck sales fell 7 percent, dragged down by SUV sales.

The results were good news for GM and Ford, which had a rough year in which they announced plans to lay off 60,000 workers, a number that depends how well they do in sales in the coming years. So the questions is, who will sell you a car or truck this coming year and why, what brands, style features will you be looking for this year. What American consumers buy in vehicles this year could have a big affect in deciding what lines or styles companies are going to expand or shrink as they plan for future market share. There arent going to be as many colors or choices and maybe more fuel economy as companies and consumers take a close look at the bottom line. The buyer is also going to be in the drivers seat as to which styles or types of vechicles such as 'Muscle Cars' or 'Full Size' pickups or SUV's will be built or phased out, so who sells you your car or truck could have a wide ranging impact. What you buy and why you buy, brand loyalty, fuel economy, style, color... will be closely looked at and researched to gleem what the consumers want, whats hot, whts teh demographics of buyers, what will be the winners and also the losers. It could determine as to which companies shrink and go bankrupt and which ones see their market share go up could depend on it.

So who will sell your car and why is looking to be shaping up as a important question for consumers......
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  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,159
    I agree, Features, performance style all get my nod to the MZ3. But the new Civic is darn close, especially in Si trim. If I were shopping for a 20k commuter with an edge, the Si Sedan would probably get my dollars. Have to drive the MZ3 again back to back anyways to decide.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,071
    ...the same company from which I've purchased the majority of my cars for over 20 years - General Motors!
  • The same company that consistently gives me a quiet and trouble free ownership for 200K or more miles, Toyota!

    Why fix it, if it ain't broke?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    ever looking for a large frame-based truck, I would definitely give the nod to GM - I prefer theirs to Ford's. But no vehicle like that is in my future.

    For the cars I buy, mainly small or medium size ones, the domestics never even get close to the Japanese for the attributes I look for (maybe they got close once - the Focus was pretty good among its competitors back in 2001 - I won't mention all the recalls though). I highly doubt I will be buying domestic, especially since I get the itch to turn over cars every 2 or 3 years, and the resale problem alone will sway the decision away from the domestics.

    After 20 years, test driving the domestics regularly, and millions of pages of posting here, not much has changed in my preferences. My next car will almost certainly come from Toyota, Honda, or Subaru.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,394
    I find that used cars are the best buys and I tend to buy ones that aren't made by mass market makers.

    All right I'm a snob. ;)
  • reddogsreddogs Posts: 353
    It seems that everyone wants to go with the same old pick as before, is it that we just pick cars that were farmiliar with. Do we even go to other dealers or lots to see what they have to offer, what about the Korean makes such as Huyndai and Kia, or some of the French or Italian makes. How do you chose a car or truck, do you simply buy on what you know or do you actually compare by looking, researching and driving the cars. What is the criteria to selecting a car or truck, it seems like everyone picks the same car or truck model just different year, different color...
  • Sure we do research and compare vehicles. RX330 or the Highlander? Camry or Matrix? 4Runner or Highlander etc. You get the picture ;)

    Typically we will not go out and look at competitor's vehicles because we are very happy with Toyota and since this is a major expenditure, we are less inclined to experiment.

    But in the past, we did experiment with a few other makes-Hondas/Acuras/Audi/Merc and all of them more or less burned us.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    It will be GM or Diamler Chrysler for me.. ;) ;)

    Charger or 300 SRT-8 mainly because ya get alot of car for the money. ;) But then again if I wait perhaps that next gen. CTS-V will be on my list. :D

    Rocky
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    I dunno, how many French or Italian makes can we buy here in America, except for super-exotic sports cars?

    In the last year I have driven the Elantra and the Cobalt, as well as the Corolla and the old Civic. If I were buying today I would stil choose between the Mazda3 and the Corolla, and would probably go with the Corolla because of the Mazda's weird dash. But I haven't driven the new Civic yet.

    However, I just bought an even smaller car, to complement my truck. I have now driven the new Rio, am glad I didn't go that route, and I have driven the Aveo, forget it. You can test drive them all, but ultimately with the Japanese the fact is that the same attributes they used to provide are the ones they continue to provide - they are just very consistent. So there's no reason to stray.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • My parents have been on a big Hyundai kick the last few years b/c of the bumper to bumper and mileage warranty they were offering awhile ago They have two Santa Fe's and are really happy with them.

    If it were my choice I'd probably go with none of the above and either do a VW or if I had a windfall, an Audi. (Not much thought put into that answer, just knee jerk!). I also secretly want a truck - so then it would be Ford F-150. ;)
  • is a very high-priced rig. I don't trust their reliability.
    And the 2006 Audi A3 rings in at around $31,000, give or take a Hasselback competion or two. Yikes. The 2006 Kia Rio5 out-brakes and out-slaloms the Audi A3, too. For $14,195 and better looks I'll pick the 2006 Kia Rio5, oh yes I will. I don't bite at this German heritage malarkey. It's hooey, so much hooey to me.

    That may make regulars here laugh, because I'm a Kia man. And yes, reddogs, I'm fixin' to buy me another Kia! I do love the Long-Haul Warranty and I love the body styling of Kia. Not so much Hyundai, based on their overall lineup, but Kia, based on their overall lineup(including their Sedona minivan, the Kia stable of vehicles impresses me the most).

    When I discovered that any hitches in my Kia's glitches were so petty and minor and not an inconvenience to fix (and saw that both Kia Motors and my local dealer would fix any hitches immediately and without inconvenience to me, and not try to duck out of Warranty responsibilities)and that by putting some 70,000 mile Yokohama all-season radials and Konig Diva wheels on my Sephia in a great deal from Discount Tire not only improved the '99 Sephia's looks tremendously but really improved the car's handling, I was sold on the Kia brand. My '99 Sephia cost me a whopping $7995. Wow, that was pretty tough for me to take. :D

    My '01 Sportage 4x4 is built solid and steady and gets me through the eastern Idaho Rocky Mountain winters quite nicely with the 4WD availability. I've yet to burn out a single lightbulb at 107,735 miles and just changed out my Sportage's OEM Hankook SUV tires on the rig for a set of Toyo's at the 102,000 mile mark, with a tad of tread left!

    That's unheard of, my cyber car-nut friends. Absolutely mah-velous rigs from Kia Motors, of South Korea.

    Mah-velous like Seattle's Seahawk juggernaut, which will dismantle bubble-butt busboy and company in timely fashion on Sunday evening. Huddle up to a nearby TV and you'll see Matt and company pick apart the Steeler secondary and linebacking corps with steadfast precision. Hand off to Shaun Alexander (the NFL's 2005 MVP)for TD's and general running back fun. Oh, yeah. :P Oh, don't forget about Pro Bowl linemen Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson for blocking prowess. These guys are loaded and want a ring, and watch as they get it and prove the Lost Wages oddsmakers to be glazy-eyed goofballs.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,451
    my fords have always served my family well. never had much luck with other brands. honda would be next choice, but almost everyone i know who has one hates them. :confuse:
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    My next car will either come from Toyota or Honda, with Ford running a distant third.

    CR had some good things to say about the Fusion/Milan though. I congratulate Ford on a job well done. (although its Mazda6 based)
  • i bought a hyundai elantra a couple of months ago to replace my mazda protege 5 when it was totalled in accident. though i haven't had the hyundai long, i'm impressed enough that at this point, i'd say hyundai is where i'd go first next time and then mazda. i might look at subarus as well.
  • I have owned one Honda and two Fords. I am going back to a foreign car no more American made cars, unfortunately. American cars are just not well built to keep more than four years. And I keep my cars six to eight years on average. American cars also don't hold their value. I think that Lexus or Infiniti will probably get my business in a few months. They seem to best on the market today.
  • 1racefan1racefan Posts: 932
    "Mah-velous like Seattle's Seahawk juggernaut, which will dismantle bubble-butt busboy and company in timely fashion on Sunday evening. Huddle up to a nearby TV and you'll see Matt and company pick apart the Steeler secondary and linebacking corps with steadfast precision. Hand off to Shaun Alexander (the NFL's 2005 MVP)for TD's and general running back fun. Oh, yeah. Oh, don't forget about Pro Bowl linemen Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson for blocking prowess. These guys are loaded and want a ring, and watch as they get it and prove the Lost Wages oddsmakers to be glazy-eyed goofballs."

    Guess this didn't go as you had thought.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Posts: 9,359
    ... **Mah-velous like Seattle's Seahawk juggernaut, which will dismantle bubble-butt busboy and company in timely fashion on Sunday evening. ....**

    Seattle getting beat like a red-headed stepchild .. "and" driving a Kia.?

    .... oooh, the pain ...



    Terry ;)
  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Posts: 1,828
    ***Mah-velous like Seattle's Seahawk juggernaut, which will dismantle bubble-butt busboy and company in timely fashion on Sunday evening. Huddle up to a nearby TV and you'll see Matt and company pick apart the Steeler secondary and linebacking corps with steadfast precision. ***

    Like the Kias, long on promise but short on delivery.

    Only **10** points even with Big Ben's lackluster performance ....
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    Mah-velous like Seattle's Seahawk juggernaut

    I'm glad I did not bet on them. I guess Paul Allen will have to spend a few billion more to get a winner.

    My next car will probably be another VW TDI, MB CDI or Wrangler CRD.
  • jefferygjefferyg Posts: 418
    On which vehicle I would be replacing. If my wife totals out the 04 Merc Mountaineer on the way home today, I will definitely not buy another SUV of any make. I might not replace it at all. I've got a 96 Ranger with 240,000 miles that I could use as a daily driver. If I did replace it I'd probably go back to the F-150 SuperCrew like I had before the Mountaineer. My old one was an 01. It was just as comfortable and got the same mileage with the smaller V8. Trading the truck was perhaps the dumbest decision I ever made.

    If the 06 Passat got totaled today, it would be very hard not to buy another VW. We've really enjoyed the car so far. It drives great and is getting at least what the EPA ratings say for fuel mileage, usually better. Also has a better warranty than most other makes: 4years/50,000 miles. The only problem is that we are so far from the dealer. I have to take it 80 miles to get it to the nearest VW dealer.

    Choice #2 would probably be a Mercury Milan. I like its looks better than the Fusion and it appears to be just as big as the Passat. We've got a FLM dealer right here in town, so service would be much more convenient. Furthermore, nothing currently offered by any other automaker in the midsized (affordable) family sedan market really impresses me.
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