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  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,125
    edited December 2012
    Yes, at the time they were saying something else.

    From what I have heard, the young man had Aspergers syndrome which accompanies AD/HD in some cases. My grandson has this condition which is extremely difficult to deal with. He gets easily frustrated and is not aware of consequences of his actions. He acts out, at times, and is almost impossible to understand most of the time. He is in Special Education and many children like this do not lead normal lives because of the language block.

    When I heard of the possible ailments that shooter suffered from, one begins to piece together what happened. People with Aspergers and AD/HD have severe learning disabilities. They act impulsively with little, if any emotion and cannot logically array the consequences of their actions - or said another way - they act out of unknown stimuli and often do not understand right from wrong.

    If I get on the phone with him (he is 7 years old), I can only understand a few words out of every sentence he speaks. Imagine how frustrating it is for a child to not understand what people are saying and also why people around him don't understand what he is trying to communicate. It is a severe language disorder accompanied by a severe behavior disorder. It is extremely rough on the family of those children.

    I still believe there was something about his mother being an educator - that his mother paid more attention to her students than she did to him - or at least he perceived it that way. I really am only guessing.

    But if he suffered from what my poor little grandson suffers from (and remember there are varying degrees of the syndrome affecting no two children the same way), then one can conceivably see what happened was as a result of brain damage (learning disabilities) can result in as regards behavior after years and years of frustration on his part.

    Could this have been prevented? I really don't know!!!

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,125
    From what I have heard, the young man had Aspergers syndrome which accompanies AD/HD in some cases

    This brain damage is either caused by genetics or can be caused at birth by a lack of oxygen. My grandson was rushed back to the hospital 5 days after birth with high fever and breathing difficulty. They believe this occurred post-natal, not pre-natal (genetic).

    My other grandson suffers as a result of the younger grandson causing so much disturbance and commotion at home all the time.

    It's not a pretty picture - and if this shooter grew up in a similar environment, one can begin to understand what happened. Why it happened will probably never be determined because the shooter is dead and only he has the answers to those questions.

    It's just a pity that innocent people and children had to suffer because of this young man's inabilities to be rational and understand the consequences of this awful massacre.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,019
    And although you Canadian citizens have the right of free speech...I think that has to be reviewed.

    The Canadians already have- and free speech isn't doing so well:
    Gagging Us Softly

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    "...that grill..."

    Woah! This is the first time seeing it and I have to say it is the ugliest thing since the Aztek. What were they thinking?

    30 years from now people with collect them for the weird styling but for now, yuck! :(

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    designer for the new Avalon is all but 27 years old. Guys age 60+ are increasing becoming redundant

    They have the right idea for sure. This 60+ consumer isn't one bit interested in that car, so they must have targeted it to the right market.

    All the car makers are trying to develop unusual distinctive front ends. That front end looks like a Camry that ran into a Mazda.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    edited December 2012
    y Mark Steyn

    Mark Steyn is a genius. I would say "free speech" in Canada is about the same as it is in the USA. We are grappling with how to control hate speech and issues like that....but, very much like the USA, we are a free democratic country, and can pretty much say what we want, if it doesn't promote hatred.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    edited December 2012
    And although you Canadian citizens have the right of free speech...I think that has to be reviewed.

    OK..........talking about speech.........what exactly are you trying to say?

    Also, take a look at this chart;
    Deaths by guns per 100000 people

    What do you think that means? The U.S. is number 11 just below some countries that are out of control with over 25 deaths per 100,000. U.S. has 9 per 100K, Canada 4.78, the U.K. .25. I don't know the answer, but do you think gun controls or lack thereof could be a factor?

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    it is the ugliest thing since the Aztek.

    I think they are thinking if older people hate it, younger people will love it.

    Many years ago, when our youngest daughter was about 14, she would ask me if I liked one of the songs she recorded. If I said I didn't like it, she knew it was a good song, and, if I did like it, she decided it wasn't very good.

    When I buy books for the business I like books with the good old fashioned covers like the ones on the Hardy Boys. The kids don't like those, they like dark scarry titles with weird shapes and colors. If I choose covers I hate they will love them.

    The Avalon is designed for under 25 year olds.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    edited December 2012
    Laws have to be made to restrict use of any dangerous object but you can't pass laws that will control the devils in people's minds.

    Very true, but check out these statistics for 2011. Some people think I shouldn't comment....I guess only American citizens have free speech (even though I am a property owner in the USA).

    So, let me know what these statistics mean;

    Country Population Total Deaths by Firearms
    USA ........................315 M ..............................8775
    Canada ......................35 M...............................170
    UK...............................62 M................................58

    What accounts for the difference?

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    "...if it doesn't promote hate..."

    Sounds nice until your political opponents decide that hate means disagreeing with them. :(

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    "...some think I shouldn't comment..."

    The nice thing about the US is that anyone can think anything they want but nobody can stop you. :)

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,705
    >have free speech (even though I am a property owner in the USA).

    If I thought a country had it wrong on guns and crazy people, I certainly wouldn't want to own property there and spend time there vacationing. It's gotta be so dangerous.

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    What accounts for the difference?

    Civility of society and self respect.

    We Americans have become so obsessed with ourselves that we've forgotten we are part of a society that needs to work together to do the right things.

    My priest said during his homily this weekend that we need to do 3 things:

    get out of the house instead of sitting there watching television

    do something good for someone else - volunteer, coach, let a pedestrian cross in front of you

    slow down and remember that you only have one shot on this earth.

    BTW - IMHO, the right to bear arms was based on musket technology. Our forefathers probably had no idea that someday "arms" would include weapons able to mow down 2 dozen people in a matter of seconds. They expected the constitution to be a fluid document and that perhaps it's time to review what really constitutes "arms" for personal protection.
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    If I thought a country had it wrong on guns and crazy people, I certainly wouldn't want to own property there and spend time there vacationing. It's gotta be so dangerous.

    You can't have a logical discussion with people who are polarized and already have the excuses made up.

    Why not try to explain those statistics, instead of making comments like that, they don't help to solve the problem.

    FYI, I bought a home there because I love it in Florida and I love the USA. It would be even better if you didn't have so many senseless killings.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    BTW - IMHO, the right to bear arms was based on musket technology.

    I think you have a good point, sometimes laws make sense when they are made, but as technology changes our laws have to keep up. It was a lot different in the days when those laws were enacted, they made sense. There were enemies who could kill you with a bow and arrow, and there wasn't a police force.

    I think a society that wants to advance has to be flexible with it's laws. We lived on a remote area for several years, and we had a rifle. The reason being, if bad guys drive up the 1/4 mile drive, break in, and theyhave weapons, we could be killed and robbed and no one would know.

    There's a lot of idiots and mentally ill people driving cars (road rage), guns are even more lethal.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    "...based on musket technology..."

    If you read other period documents like the Federalist Papers you see that the people who came up with the 2nd amendment were more worried about giving citizens the means to resist oppressive government. Naturally as government weaponry changed so would the citizen's.

    That delicate balance between individual rights vs.societal protection is tough to judge. I don't own any guns but I'd hate to lose that right.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    it is interesting that the government implementing strict gun laws is actually the exact opposite of what the amendment intends.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,017
    edited December 2012
    "...there wasn't a police force..."

    The police can't stop a determined assailant from getting at you. They can take a report later and maybe even catch the criminal but if there is a chance someone will come kicking down the door, you have to save yourself.

    BTW, I recommend a pistol grip Mossberg shotgun loaded with birdshot. Will discourage even a maniac but won't shoot through the wall and take out your neighbor like a rifle.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    I think you have a good point, sometimes laws make sense when they are made, but as technology changes our laws have to keep up.

    I believe the "right to bear arms" was put into place to keep government from seizing all power and becoming a totalitarian state. It didn't have anything to do with protection of self or family. It was to keep the nation "free" of an oppressive government.

    That said, any gun control laws wouldnt pass, wouldn't work... and if they did they couldn't be enforced. Too many guns already. Too many holes in our borders for gun smugglers.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,019
    Sounds nice until your political opponents decide that hate means disagreeing with them.

    Precisely.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

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