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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    Your entire argument just went downhill right there.....

    lol and fell off my chair.

    I did add the bieb just to poke fun at ourselves.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,734
    Well Celine Dion was part of the joke as well - right??
  • gogiboygogiboy Posts: 732
    ". Just a quick question, is it waterproof in case of flooding? And, if it is waterproof how do those spiders get inside?"

    D--

    The steel is welded and they use some kind of wired anode buried outside the unit to keep moisture away and prevent rust. I believe the steel is galvanized and painted with some kind of epoxy. Water can enter from above through the sliding door, but that isn't a concern based on our altitude. It would be pretty dicey if you lived on a flood plain, however. It's not hermetically sealed so bugs can, and do, enter through the sliding door on the garage floor. Not a big deal, it just needs to be swept periodically.

    Gogiboy
  • houdini1houdini1 Kansas City areaPosts: 5,860
    Canada has a very proud and distinguished heritage and you should be proud to be a Canadian...and I am glad to see that you are.

    I have no doubt that if the U.S. was invaded by a foreign power, that Canada would come to our aid, just as the U.S. would come to the aid of Canada should Canada be invaded. Good neighbors.

    2013 LX 570 2010 LS 460 2002 Tacoma 4x4

  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,810
    Probably not, unless you've recently become a female driver. But if your wife wants to respond, feel free. Kinda seems like a slow news week question, eh?

    (and I knew I could count on Mike for a sassy response :P )

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  • verdugoverdugo Posts: 1,987
    The 535 has mesh carrier on the passenger side of the counsel,

    That's great. BMW thought of everything. If your purse makes you crash, they included a lawyer to help sue BMW. :P

    counsel is not the same as console. Not even with Canadian spelling.
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    Well Celine Dion was part of the joke as well - right??

    You could include her too, but she played to huge crowds in Vegas, so someone went to see her.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    I have no doubt that if the U.S. was invaded by a foreign power, that Canada would come to our aid,

    If you watch the excellent movie "Argo" you will see how the people in the Canadian Embassy in Iran got the US hostages out of Iran, at great risk to themselves. The part the Canadians played was much larger than shown in the movie...the movie took some political license.

    Part Canadians played in saving American hostages in Iran

    I have no doubt that if the U.S. was invaded by a foreign power, that Canada would come to our aid, just as the U.S. would come to the aid of Canada should Canada be invaded. Good neighbors.

    Our current Conservative government is a strong supporter of the US, and the Liberals have always supported the US as well. I am not too sure where the socialist New Democratic Party would stand, but the chances of them winning an election are pretty slim. I think they would support the US but I can't speak on their behalf because they get some weird policies at times......like getting more money or taxes from corporations to help the poor. But, then all the corporations leave and no one has jobs....so I don't know what their thinking is on the topic.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    Probably not, unless you've recently become a female driver.

    Our hospitalization does pay for sex change operations so I'll check into that and then get back to you.

    Slow news week is right!

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    counsel is not the same as console. Not even with Canadian spelling

    I hadn't heard from you for awhile and I knew that would might bring you out.

    (I knew it was wrong when i spelled it but didn't have time to change it).

    I was speaking to a guy today about that Tesla I saw. The car was outside because once a month it has to get updates, so you leave it outside for a few hours. Someone mentioned you could sell cars cheaper if a auto manufacturer owned the retail outlets. That is how Teslas are sold. So much money is made on repairs with most manufacturers. Teslas don't need much...just tires, wiper blades and brakes. The rest can be done by electronics. You don't really need a whole dealer network.

    One problem the fellow has with this car is he wants to go from Toronto to Rochester, about 300 miles. That's too far to go there and back so he has to charge it for 3 hours somewhere on the journey. So, he won't take the Tesla on that trip. The new batteries can be charged in 20 minutes, so that might be better.

    Oh yes, if things do go wrong, the circuits can be checked and a new replacement snaps in.

    I would wait until it gets refined before buying. These current models are like Commodore computers, they have a long ways to go to be acceptable to the masses, especially at $160k

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,460
    edited July 2013
    Saw a Tesla parked on the street yesterday so stopped to take a look. They are absolutely beautiful...

    We were taking our daily walk at Town Center Mall in Boca Raton on Monday morning and were totally taken by surprise. We saw "Tesla" written on the front of a new tenant that is moving in to the vacated Apple Store (Apple moved into a new store three times the size of the old store)! Tesla? So I went over to one of the managers of AT&T (the store next to that vacant store) and asked him what was going in there. He responded that TESLA leased the store and is going to actually have a showroom there to show their models. Usually, the dealerships just lease some space on the walkways - Cadillac, Bentley/Rolls, Toyota, Infiniti, etc. do that - but this will be the first time a manufacturer is leasing a store. It is right across from Macy's and the new Apple Store. Should be interesting to see what the do with the space.

    Yes, driver, the Tesla is great looking, but until they produce an electric vehicle with at least a 400 mile range, it won't be on my list to look at when I buy my next car.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,475
    It's not just range, it's also refueling procedure. You need to be able to refuel/recharge in minutes, not hours.

    However, Tesla is absolutely fantastic. They are also reportedly challenging current way of doing car business, from sales, to service. Basically they don't want franchise system. No surprise all those "free market" dealership owners are trying to kill it. What's worse, several states seem to agree that free market means free to buy from this guy, but not the other one. What a phoney. I understand direct sale may not work, but it should not be state, who decides which way manufacturer wants to sell and support their product. It basically is the same crap wholesalers and traditional grocers were trying to kill supermarkets in 30s.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    We saw "Tesla" written on the front of a new tenant that is moving in to the vacated Apple Store

    There is a rumour (Cdn spelling) that the genius who started Tesla may become the president of Apple, which is struggling without Steve Jobs.

    That could be a brilliant play for both companies, esp since Tesla is really more of a computer item, than a mechanical car item. Especially when you see that huge computer monitor on the instrument panel.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,460
    It's not just range, it's also refueling procedure. You need to be able to refuel/recharge in minutes, not hours.

    I would agree with you, dino! Range is not as important as the ability to recharge fast enough to take a long trip.

    Your comments about direct sales vs. franchise is also appropriate. The store they are opening in the mall should prove to be successful because the mall is located in a high socioeconomic area - Boca Raton. If they intend to sell cars, that would be the place to sell them. I don't know where they will build their service facility, however it will be interesting how it will work in. Boca Raton because they do not allow dealerships on the city. So the store will probably be a showroom which will refer customers to Palm Beach where I believe they already have a facility.

    It will be exciting to see Tesla succeed on a market that is highly competitive. They have several models. I know their stock has been gaining significantly lately.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,593
    I've owned three RX-7's in the past and I can tell you that they are amazing cars! The power that "beer keg" rotary puts out is amazing!

    They aren't for everyone. If they get low on coolant, it'll kill the engine. If you blow a hose you CAN'T drive it to the next shop! You shut it down!!

    The weren't great on gas mileage...not horrible and they did use a bit of oil but not enough to get excited about.

    When abused or poorly maintained they would punish the owners.

    If I could find a pristine 1st or 2nd Gen RX-7, I would be all over it!
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    edited July 2013
    I don't know where they will build their service facility,

    The Tesla warranty costs $600 a year and it is quite interesting to read. Go to:
    Tesla Motors Warranty

    Some hi-lites;
    *They bring a brand new loaded Tesla to your door and they take in your car
    *Loaners are top cars in top shape, you can buy one or trade at any time, they are $1 off per mile driven. If you prefer you can try out the sports model.
    *Even if you don't take car in yearly it is still covered by warranty.
    *Quote from warranty - Unlike gasoline cars, an electric car doesn’t need oil changes, fuel filters, spark plugs, smog checks, etc., which are only needed if the mode of locomotion involves burning oil derived products. For an electric car, you don’t even need to replace the brake pads, because most of the braking energy is regeneratively captured by the motor and returned to the battery
    *Read about the battery warranty, they will cover it no matter what happens.

    The whole concept is remarkable. Take your car in basically for an alignment and to get software upgrades.

    Eventually there will be service centres and they are going to unplug your old battery and exchange it for a fully charged one.

    I still wouldn't buy one yet. I wonder if they will have phony exhaust sounds, I still like the sound of a gas burning engine.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,160
    edited July 2013
    Eventually there will be service centres and they are going to unplug your old battery and exchange it for a fully charged one.

    With respect to range anxiety I wrote this two years ago in a Buick forum:

    "cooleydd, ...I agree with you on the buying habits of Americans but not on the range limitations of future Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs). Take for example, an American company, in cooperation with the Japanese government and a Japanese taxi company, who designed a “refueling” station for electric cars. The station does not recharge the depleted batteries but instead replace them with a fresh electric battery in one minute and 59 seconds.

    Think about that for a moment, in two minutes the old battery can be swapped for a fresh one; in less time than a gasoline fill up. So, any thought of range anxiety or the need to have a second car is eliminated. And guess what? in the process will create millions of new jobs to put this new infrastructure in place.
    Here is a video link of how the system works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lp_6VyIeSY

    Update: I read recently that the American company in question pulled out of this venture.
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    in the process will create millions of new jobs to put this new infrastructure in place.

    Thanks for coming up with that bwia....that was really interesting.

    When I was imagining these transfer stations I was thinking they would need an attendant there to watch over things. But, there is a whole garage with a small imprint that can change the battery automatically in a few minutes.

    I don't know about creating millions of jobs. It will require people to move batteries around etc., but there will be a lot of gas station personnel looking for jobs too. I guess we will still need people to man the 7/11s, but even that could be automated.

    It is a huge job setting up the infrastructure, when oil and gas are already in place, but, like I say, every problem has a solution - the guy who finds it is a genius.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,734
    ...their plan is to have stores (they work very hard to avoid the dealership word) where prospective buyers are shown the features of the cars and how to order and service centers located nearby convenient to their customers. Due to the franchise laws in many states, you often can't buy a Tesla at the store. You can order it online from Tesla in CA and they then truck it to you. Tesla is opening stores in malls and retail areas because they want people to feel comfortable entering their stores. There is no price haggling, they don't have to inventory to push as all vehicles are built to order and the people in the store are more likely to have retail instead of car sales experience.

    Here in MA, they have a store at an upscale mall west of Boston (Natick Mall) and a service center just outside of Boston. An article I read said 300 Teslas are registered in MA. MA is one of the states where you have to order from California.

    Mike - Tesla has 3 stores in Flordia. 1 in Dania Beach and two in Miami at the Dadeland Mall and Lincoln Rd and two service centers with 3 more opening soon.

    Battery Swap - Tesla demonstrated a battery quick swap technology 2 weeks ago. It's an automated replacement of the batteries that will be located alongside their supercharging stations. It will cost about $60 or so to swap the batteries. You can then return to the station to get your pack back or keep the one you have for a fee as it has a longer warranty. They will be rolling them out along I5 in Los Angeles and Rt 95 between Boston and DC.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,460
    edited July 2013
    Mike - Tesla has 3 stores in Flordia. 1 in Dania Beach and two in Miami at the Dadeland Mall and Lincoln Rd and two service centers with 3 more opening soon.

    I did not know they had stores in Dadeland (south Miami, about 60 miles south of me), one in Dania (about 20 miles south of me) and one on Lincoln Road (Miami Beach - about 45 mile south of me).

    The one they are opening in Boca Raton will not be able to sell the cars from the store because Boca Raton does not allow new car sales within its city limits (no dealerships anywhere in Boca Raton). The store is supposed to open in 60 days according to The Town Center Information Booth.

    It should be interesting when the store opens. We were just talking about manufacturers doing away with dealerships - and now here is one that is starting in business with no franchises and no dealerships. That is the only way to do away with the dealerships and franchises - by not having them at all from the very beginning. I will just wait until all the variables are covered before investing in an all electric vehicle. Then I would begin looking at them seriously.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

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