Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!





Stories from the Sales Frontlines

1453345344536453845395007

Comments

  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,475
    I think the battery swap is a great idea on a surface, similar to propane gas bottle exchange, but there may be issues to overcome. Suppose you have a brand new car with new battery. Then you come and they put an older one, later you get a newer one. Propane tank cost is incidental to the gas itself, considering multiple exchanges. Batteries, not so much. They age and older ones will hold charge less effectively, so there is potential arbitrage on new vs. old battery. It will not be a problem in first couple of years, but IF the solution propagates, there will be mix of new and old batteries. Once people realize that, there can be attempts to game the market, claims of being stiffed or otherwise wronged. The battery depraciation will have to be resolved in exchange system.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,471
    This sales story from my past life as a sales manager was recollected while I was at my Mercedes dealership the other day. Several of the salesmen who currently work there used to work for me at my dealership between 2004 and 2008. One of them approached me to relay a "deja vu" experience he had with a customer, the same customer we both worked with back in 2007 - a young customer who had come in to my dealership to buy a new coupe.

    He was met at the door by this salesman who showed him the coupe and had taken him on a demo drive. When they came back from the test drive, he showed the salesman his business card. The salesman came to my office and showed me the card. He was a sales manager at a Lexus dealership way out in southwest Broward Cointy. I went out to greet him and brought the salesman and the customer back to my office. He wanted to buy the car for my invoice which was $3500+ below MSRP. I told him that the owner of the dealership provides employee pricing as a courtesy to managers and salesmen who worked in dealerships in southeast Florida, which was $250 over dead cost to cover the minimum commission for the salesman and internal costs. He agreed and the salesman took him to his desk to begin the paperwork.

    When my salesman asked him for his drivers license and insurance card, several things had fallen out of his wallet - business cards from several new car dealerships naming him as a sales manager. My salesman came in to tell me what he had seen. I scratched my head and decided to call the Lexus dealership he said he worked for to verify his employment there. When I did, no one there knew who this guy was and verified that he was not an employee of that dealership.

    I got up from my desk, walked out to the customer and explained to him what I had done and that since he had lied about his employment, I was not able to sell him the car at any price. My salesman stated he had seen several business cards fall out of his wallet naming him as a sales manager at several other dealerships. He then admitted to us that he did not work in the automobile industry, but that he was an insurance salesman just trying to get a great deal on a new car. I then promptly threw him out of my dealership.

    As I mentioned at the beginning of this story, the salesman at Mercedes (who used to work for me) saw this same guy try to pass himself off as a sales manager at a BMW dealership, business card and all - a kind of "deja vu"! We both laughed while reminiscing our experience with him way back when. Luckily, they didn't get taken in by this guy.

    He must be counterfeiting business cards to pass himself off as a big shot in a dealership so he could "steal" a car from some unsuspecting dealership. My guess is that he must have succeeded several times since he was still working his scam 8 years later at a Mercedes dealership.

    I guess people will do almost anything at times to get a great deal on a car. And the most hilarious part of all this is that he could probably get that deal, or any other deal, by just simple negotiation, research and shopping. Small world this car business is!

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    Couldn't they just offer exchanges of similar age stamped batteries? There would have to be a way to avoid getting an old battery.

    What they actually need is a quick high current (while staying safe) recharge. I'm thinking something that could maybe get the battery to 80% or so in 15 minutes.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    >He must be counterfeiting business cards to pass himself off as a big shot in a dealership so he could "steal" a car from some unsuspecting dealership. My guess is that he must have succeeded several times since he was still working his scam 8 years later at a Mercedes dealership.

    I don't find this business card scam surprising in the least. A close friend of ours was a large office supply box store manager in Dayton metro area. He said that half of the population of the urban part of town had been in to get cards made up showing them as a pastor of a church. There must be some ability to save money on taxes if you declare yourself a pastor is what our friend assumed. Unless the Mercedes/BMW dealers were giving discounts to pastors. ;)
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 5,025
    I've been really busy so never told this story. As we talk about all the time, used car values are pretty much stupid these days. All you have to do is troll Craig's and look for 2-3k cars and they are trash.

    So..... My sister in law who doesn't have any money needed a car. No credit, not much cash so what to do? She tried a "buy here pay here" and yes they would get her into a car but at a huge cost (like probably 30% above what the sucker is worth).

    I went out on a search and couldn't believe the garbage in the 2-3k range. I ended up finding a 99 Century (beige/beige) with a little over 100k with everything working including a/C. It was listed at 2800. Since I had to be out of town, my wife and SIL went to look it over sent me pictures etc. it checked out, older man driven one owner. I told my wife to offer 2400. Guy wouldn't budge, so I said wave 2600 cash in the guy's face. Still wouldn't budge, he caved at 2700 which judging by what it out there, they did fine. So far the car is serving her well. Very boring, but safe for a young girl and infant.

    1999 Chevy S10 / 2004 Merc Grand Marquis / 2012 Buick LaCrosse

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    you are making me think I should of held out for more when I sold my Integra. though entirely possible if you had come to see it you would have put it in your trash pile...

    I am still happy to have freed up a garage space and some cash, so not really worried about it. But man, did I get a lot of hits on that.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • gogiboygogiboy Posts: 732
    "Well Celine Dion was part of the joke as well - right??"

    Driver--

    Your statement about Beiber and Dion reminded me of a funny back and forth between Canadian and American border patrol agents fighting over an arrest on the Niagara River above the falls in an episode of The Simpsons.

    American patrolman: "Beat it you puck smacking maple sucker!"
    Canadian Patrolman: "Take a hike you Shatner stealing Mexico touchers!"

    Gogiboy
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,614
    edited July 2013
    Four months ago, I traded in my '11 Explorer and got what I thought was pretty good money for it.
    According to the dealer website, they haven't sold it yet, but they are asking more money than when it was originally offered.
    The property tax on my 91 Mustang went up 30% from last year, although not a big number.
    The property tax on my '02 Explorer went up too, but not as much.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,224
    edited July 2013
    "...99 Buick Century with a little over 100k...listed at $2800..."

    That's actually not bad if it's not a rust bucket. (I wouldn't touch one from NY) While that era Century was not a bad car I actually have an interest in the previous generation on my list of bargain transportation vehicles.

    This generation was the best selling Buick for many years:
    http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/3892332010.html

    Your 99 was probably a good deal at $2700:
    http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/3848401588.html

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,685
    edited July 2013
    American patrolman: "Beat it you puck smacking maple sucker!"
    Canadian Patrolman: "Take a hike you Shatner stealing Mexico touchers!"


    That is cute....sometimes the Simpsons nail it.

    I forgot to mention William Shatner and Leslie Nielson.

    Martin Short and Eugene Levy went to my high school.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,685
    image

    Sarasota! A Florida Buick...it has got almost wire wheels on it, just needs a vinyl roof and you would be all set.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,161
    edited July 2013
    Good news as we celebrate the 4th. of July. Thanks in part to the auto bailout (?) and to the many new and fuel efficient vehicles hitting the market.

    Auto sales grew 9.2 percent during June to 1.4 million vehicles, compared with about 1.28 million in the same month a year ago, according to the Autodata Corporation and the NYT.

    But the bigger surprise was the closely watched seasonally adjusted annual sales rate, which came close to 16 million vehicles during the month — the highest level recorded since 2007.

    Sales at the Detroit Big 3:
    GM --- 265,000 units, up 6.5%
    Ford---235,000 units, up 13.4%
    Chrysler – 156,000 units, up 8.2%

    The foreign brands did very well also except for Hyundai and VW:
    Toyota – 195,000 units, up 9.8%
    Honda – 137,000 units, up 9.7%
    Nissan – 104,000 units, up 12.9%
    Hyundai – 65,000 units, up 1.9%
    VW – sales fell by 0.3 percent

    Sales of electrics were up sharply. The Nissan Leaf was up 315 percent and GM’s Volt was up 53.0%. Thanks to incentives?

    What is driving this demand? According to the NYT, “analysts said the results were an indication of an industry hitting a sweet spot in its comeback, because of a combination of pent-up consumer demand, more available credit and a plethora of new products.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/03/business/a-stronger-economy-lifts-june-auto-sa- - les.html?src=recg
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,224
    "...Nissan Leaf was up 315% and GM's Volt was up 53%..."

    So what's that mean, they sold about a dozen between the two? :P

    I tried to get enthusiastic about electric cars but there's just too many limitations to make them practical outside of major urban areas. And in urban areas public transit is superior to the cars. :(

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,224
    "...a Florida Buick..."

    If you were in modest financial circumstances which would you rather pay to repair, a 14yo Buick or a 14yo BMW?

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,685
    If you were in modest financial circumstances which would you rather pay to repair, a 14yo Buick or a 14yo BMW?

    Definitely the Buick, if I had to.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,685
    We are off to Chicago just for 2 days...will try to do waterfront boat tour and achitectural tour if at all possible.

    I was charging up the Netbook and the mouse isn't working, but you can work it by touching the pad. We aren't great at that. The mouse was working fine a few weeks ago, not it doesn't seem to work at all.

    Is there a setting I can go to to get the mouse going again?

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    this a wired or wireless mouse? If wireless, check battery.

    also, look for a switch on the mouse that turns it off. maybe that happened inadvertently.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,685
    Thanks stick........it is not wireless.

    I'll check to see if the mouse could be off......but it does light up blue when plugged in. Also tried an old larger mouse and it didn't work either.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    if it is USB, and you have another port, try that.

    also the obvious, reboot and see what happens.

    I have no idea what settings you might want to check on one of those.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,471
    Martin Short and Eugene Levy went to my high school.

    Sheldon Leonard (producer/director of the Dick Van [non-permissible content removed] show) and James Cagney were both graduates of my High School - Peter Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. It was a specialized Math and Science magnate for all 5 boroughs of New York City.

    Happy Canada Day, driver!

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

This discussion has been closed.