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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    I checked out their menu, and guess what, no prices shown.

    It's probably because seafood is priced daily. It's probably similar to Capital Grille. I'd plan on $75 per person with one drink each.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,705

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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    Any guesses on the total bill(parts and labor)?

    I'll guess $325 - $225 labor (3 hours portal to portal) and $100 for parts.
  • shehabshehab Posts: 1
    I just saw this car posted in CL. I am wondering what problems it may have at this age. Thanks.

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,207
    Under $100.
  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,060
    edited August 2013
    Any guesses on the total bill(parts and labor)?

    I'd say $250, with the following price break-down.

    Service call.......$120
    1 hour labor...... 80
    Parts................ 50
  • Probably a multitude of problems. A minivan of that age and mileage is unlikely to be a good buy, at any price.

    No one can say for sure, because it really depends on what has already been done to repair and maintain the vehicle, but unless the transmission has been replaced recently, and possibly the engine, I would run away from that vehicle.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,107
    There's actually a few YouTube videos of people who remove the hard top with only one person. It involves rigging 6 or 8 ratcheting tie downs and anchoring them into the ceiling of your garage. Take the front 2 freedom panels off, take the bolts out if the hard top, unplug the rear wiper, and start ratcheting until the top is 8" off of the frame & drive away.

    There is a company out there called best top that actually makes replacement soft tops for Jeeps. Apparently the OEM soft tops last about 5 years.

    The Bronx isn't nearly as bad as it used to be back in the '70s, '80s, & '90s. In the 10 plus years I've been a Yankees season ticket holder, I've never had anything g happen to my car while parked for a ball game. This includes my precious Prelude during the height of its engine's popularity. Now thieves & street racers are more interested in the CRV Motors.

    Used 4 door Wranglers (unlimited) are priced insanely high. I recently read an article that showed the top cars that hold their value best after 5 years. The CRV, The Wrangler, The Tacoma, & The FJ Cruiser were 4 of the cars on the list.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,107
    The only reason I'd get rid of it would be to replace it with a JK Wrangler Rubicon with the high-zoot sound system and heated seats...

    That's a $40K check you are going to write which could also buy you a very nice Boxster S:)

    I guess I could look into CPO Saharas to meet my price point :confuse: Let me take a look while I'm eating lunch!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • gogiboygogiboy Posts: 732
    "I don't know what criteria you used, but I came up with about $1000 difference, excluding any incentives. EX-L and 2014 Titanium."


    I simply went from the Honda dealership to the Ford dealerships as they are across the street from each other in my town. Ford had two Titanium Pkg Ford Escapes and both were $36.5-$38K. It was a Sunday and I'm not in the market so I don't know about incentives. The highest CRV-L I saw was $32 or $32.5K. I only looked at the window stickers.

    It's possible that the Escapes had some dealer add-ons, I don't remember. I guess what floored me wasn't so much that the Fords were so high, but just the steady creep upward of what used to be $20-$22K vehicles. It used to be that if you were pushing $40K you were in the near luxury category for a lot of cars/trucks/SUVs and would certainly be looking at a loaded mid-size SUV.

    Obviously the good times have returned for dealer and buyer based on current sales. Avg. sales price for cars sold in June was over $31K.

  • gogiboygogiboy Posts: 732
    I might have mentioned this before, but in my middle class neighborhood there are 25 houses. We have 6 Jeep Wranglers ranging from a rebuilt 1980 or 81 up to at least three that are no more than three years old. Two, possibly three, were bought new in the last 1 1/2 years. All of the owners are male and all are around my age (mid-50s) with the exception of one fellow who is in his 40s. The most recent arrival is another four-door with fancy wheels. It doesn't appear that any are ever taken off road and one of the newest ones has a sparkling candy apple red paint job, which to me doesn't seem very Jeep-like. The owner babies it like a pampered child. In his case it replaced a nearly new Avalanche.

    I'm not sure what this says--if anything--other than there are a lot of early-middle to middle aged men who like Jeep Wranglers. On campus there are dozens, but most are older models and many have oversize wheels/tires so I would characterize those as a different demographic.

  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    Ford had two Titanium Pkg Ford Escapes and both were $36.5-$38K. It was a Sunday and I'm not in the market so I don't know about incentives. The highest CRV-L I saw was $32 or $32.5K. I only looked at the window stickers.

    At that price, the Escapes are Titaniums with AWD, the 2.0 EcoBoost, the panorama sunroof, BLIS, HID's, power liftgate and the Sync/Nav system. None of those items are available on the CR-V so you really can't compare just by looking at the high end trims.

    Ford has been working very hard to bring up the level of equipment, technology, and luxury in their compact offerings in an effort to improve the profitability of what have always been low margin vehicles. Compare a Focus to a Civic or Corolla to see what is offered.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,107
    Maybe a Wrangler is the "new" mid life crisis car for the 21st century. Corvettes are sooooooo 1980s anyway (Sarcasm - anybody who knows me knows I'd drive a C6 corvette in a heart beat). I am approaching "the big 4 - 0" in about 2 1/2 years anyway...

    Used Unlimited '12 prices are crazy close to pricing of new 2013s. I think I could do a Sport S with a few options and keep the MSRP under $35K. A dealer near me has a Dune Clearcoat (Beige) with U Connect, Dual Tops, Seat Mounted Side Air Bags, Automatic, Alpine Radio, Sirius, & Destination for $34,455 MSRP. Sounds like I could live with that:)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,019
    That's a $40K check you are going to write which could also buy you a very nice Boxster S

    My local Jeep dealer had a CPO 2012 equipped as I described for $29K. But I would rather keep my TJ for the time being.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • verdugoverdugo Posts: 1,977
    However, sales from June to July 2013 fell by -(6.4%) yet the press is jubilant about this outcome.

    That's because July has traditionally been a lower volume month than June. That is true in the good years as in the bad years.
  • verdugoverdugo Posts: 1,977
    Wrangler owners wave at each other as they pass.

    In town, I don't get many waves -- probably 10%.

    But up in Lake Tahoe, I get close to 70%.

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    I just spent two hours with my son cleaning up his Wrangler after his day in the woods yesterday. He took a lot of photos and I can tell you, I'm damm glad I wasn't in it this time.

    It's a matter of time.....
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    I'm surprised the FJ made that list.

    We had two traded in that had less than 1000 miles on them.

    Reason in both cases was due to horrific rear visibility!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,353
    edited August 2013
    Well, the CRV's are AWD too. I'm not sure what the Eco Boost part means but our 2013 CRV has more than enough power. We have a large sunroof, may not a "panorama" sunroof but certainly big enough to please us on the rare occasions when we open it. I have no idea what BLIS is.

    We don't have HID's but they can be added aftermarket for not a lot of money.

    No Sync (whatever that is?) but NAVI is available as an option.

    No power liftgate....I don't know how we manage...would be nice I suppose?

    Honda tries to keep prices down by not adding equipment that the majority of buyers have little use for. As demand for these items increase, they are added and the prices go up.

    I do agree, Ford is building some great new cars but MAN, do they charge for them!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,449
    Improved safety and fuel economy ratings have their price.
    Our 2004 Escape which had everything except towing package listed for about 28,500. Our new Escape, which probably has everything listed for 37,500.
    In addition to what Robr2 mentioned, I'll pile on a few more features, from looking at the sticker for my wife's 2013 Escape. Larger wheels, roof rack with cross bars, push button start, remote start, keypad entry, 110v outlet, ambient lighting.
    Of course, all these features may or may not matter to a prospective buyer, but they are there.
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