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  • "...a Leonberger..."

    Never heard of it either. Get a mutt at the pound. Cheaper and fewer health issues.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,676
    Horrible publicity which lead to the death of that car.

    I really don't think that had anything to do with it, the fact that the Fiero was the biggest POS was enough. I knew one guy that had one he had 60K on it when GM put in the third engine.

    Also I can't think of anyone I hate enough to give them a dozen Fieros.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • "...third engine..."

    Didn't the Fireo have the 2.8L engine? I had a 2.8 in my 84 Celebrity and it ran fine even though I blew it up at 102k by letting the coolant get low (warped head).

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,676
    At first Fieros had a 2.5L 4 banger, the 2.8L 6 cylinder came out in later years. IIRC there was an issue with the oil in the 2.5 that caused oil loss and then a loss of a rod. At times a fire would occur.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,271
    edited September 2013
    The Fiero was a vintage '80s GM engineering job in which the first few years of customers served as beta testers. The 1988 GT was a pretty decent little sports coupe but the crap can early cars had already poisoned the pond for the much improved later models.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • "...customers served as beta testers..."

    Hard to imagine a company like that went bust.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,092
    Mike...I had heard there were some downloads that took hours. I didn't have any such issues, on any of my devices (iTunes on my MacBook Air, iPad, iPhone5). The downloads on all of them took maybe 5 minutes, max. Then again, I had them all plugged in and running on my home wifi for the downloads.

    I really like the new iOS. It really is like getting a new computer, iPad, iPhone.

    Plus, I can finally BLOCK all the unwanted texts and calls on my iPhone. No more green coffee bean texts, or unsolicited phone calls about lowering credit card rates, or calls from certain individuals I'd rather not hear from any more. I can block them all with the new iPhone update. That by itself is worth the download.
  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,460
    Mike...I had heard there were some downloads that took hours

    You said you were plugged in - that was the problem with my download. I was not plugged in - downloaded it from WiFi - which was my mistake. At least I learned my lesson.

    Then, when I tried to backup my IPhone, it just didn't take because they had just also issued an update to ITunes - thus, I was in "double-trouble" if you know what I mean.

    From now on, whenever there is an update for anything, I am going to make sure I connect to ITunes before downloading. WiFi messed it up for me.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,676
    When I downloaded it it took about 40-45 minutes. But that was half wifi and half cellular. That's because I started it at home thinking it wouldn't take so long. But it took longer than I thought and I had to get going to work.

    One thing that likely caused long downloads is how many people do it when you art doing it. Their servers could have been overloaded.

    Downloading the new iTunes wasn't an issue, just don't like that interface either.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,888
    The Leonberger is a beautiful, wonderful dog. They cost from $1,500-$2,000 usually. There is a breeder here in North Carolina. Upkeep is expensive because they require a lot of grooming. Unfortunately, longevity is not on their side----8 or 9 years. There is no better dog for children or adults because Leonbergers are so patient and loyal. Because of their large size, you'll want to do your training early.

  • bwiabwia Boston Posts: 1,160
    Unfortunately, longevity is not on their side----8 or 9 years.

    Richard, yes the Leonberger is a beautiful animal, but I wonder why its life expectancy is so short? Is it because of its large size or too much inbreeding. It's a shame to make such a large investment for such a short payback.
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog North CarolinaPosts: 6,888
    I'm told that they have skeletal issues due to their size----lots of issues with their limbs. Then again, the 8 or 9 years is an average. I'm sure that many of them live longer. Also, they don't take to strict or harsh training. They prefer trainers who are both calm and patient. Because of their size, good training is a must. It would be very difficult, for example, to walk this 170 pound dog if it didn't heel well or respond to commands. They also prefer cooler climates due to their heavy coats. I knew someone here who had one. With our summers being so hot, I always felt sorry for that dog. The lady had to walk him very early in the morning before it got so hot.

    I certainly don't mean to diminish the possibility of purchasing this animal. They would be wonderful pets. Many people just don't realize what is involved in owning a dog. Maintaining a healthy diet, good grooming, training, and medical checkups can be expensive and time consuming. It is a large responsibility similar to that of having a child. On the other hand, it is so worth it in terms of the unconditional love and companionship that is offered to the owner. Remember, your dog can't talk but you must provide for him as though he did. If you don't have a dog, but are physically able to adopt one, I strongly recommend it. I'm big on rescue dogs. They need and want a home. What a great way to make a life a happy one.

  • charles_guycharles_guy Posts: 55
    edited September 2013
    ebay member writes (still current auction today) "The car was involved in light accident and it was fixed and inspected. Highest Offer /Bid Wins This Beautiful vehicle."

    found the car at - - - - - - OTI1NzI


    says the car has rebuilt title but no nys inspection sticker on window. hubby said ebay pics showed one new and one old headlight but gold color looked so pretty. ioo this was more than "slight accident". In your opinion is damage slight?

    maybe saved us a ton of hartache. I want that color so thanks mako1a! been looking for a decent used subaru for past months. maybe you saved me and hubby a ton
  • mako1amako1a VirginiaPosts: 1,647
    edited September 2013
    Trying to keep up with oldfarmer, I finally bought a truck. Not a new one and I still have the Mustang. I like it so far. Everything works, runs fine. Even has XM still working. It's a 2006 Chevy Silverado 4X4 LT 2500 HD. Mileage is pitiful, but at about 5k miles/year I don't care. Still can't load pictures. Oh well.

    You're welcome charles guy (girl). That should buff right out. j/k

    2013 Mustang GT, 2006 Silverado 2500 LT HD, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,236
    Certainly nice having you back.

    When you have time, it'd be good to hear some of what went on during your haitus.
  • "...has rebuilt title but no NYS inspection sticker..."

    Am I missing something? The ad says the car is in New Britain CT. Why would it have a NY inspection sticker?

    IIRC, in NY when a car is rebuilt it has to undergo a special inspection to insure roadworthyness. This is different from the annual safety inspection. Does this car have such a certificate? If not it can't be registered in NY.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • "...still have the Mustang..."

    That'a boy!

    What did you say your goal was, one fast car, one luxury car, a truck and the wife's car? That's pretty much my dream too.

    You're almost there.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,593
    You're buying a junk salvage titled car because you like the COLOR?

    Make sure your insurance company will insure it and just know that it wil be near impossible to resell down the road.

    Me? I wouldn't even think about it!
  • vservser Posts: 48
    Hi. On the fence between a fusion and accord. What's your take on the fusion? Any issues yet? Recalls? Thx!
  • My wife and I rescued a dog 3 months ago - she is a Golden Retriever/Border Collie Mix, about a year or so old. The sweetest personality you can imagine - I cringe to think about where she came from and how she got there (a high kill shelter in Nevada).
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