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  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    I saw some today (I think Ford?) that were lower. $19, $29.

    Advertising has become ridiculous. First we had the "bi-monthly" payment with the payment in huge letters. I have even seen that amount painted on the door of a new car...with bi-monthly in tiny print.

    Now we have the small payment hi-lited, and we have the down payment amount in tiny print.

    I imagine soon we'll see a car with a huge $1.99 painted on the door, and in small print "weekly" and then in smaller print, "with $10,999 down".

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,709
    >biweekly

    Sounds like leasing advertising has gone the way that carpet pricing went: from $$ square yard to $ per square foot.

    Or in Canada, instead of $$ per square meter, is it now $$ per square decimeter? I just realized I don't know how it's priced in Canada. Educate me driver 100.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,563
    In general, the Act prohibits sales that discriminate in price on the sale of goods to equally-situated distributors when the effect of such sales is to reduce competition.

    Which is why the act doesn't apply to the situations I was thinking about. 1.) While it gave a discount to the dealership that wasn't readily available to others it wasn't enough to reduce competition. 2.) The discount didn't affect the end sales price of the car since it wasn't taken into account in the negotiations since no one in sales knew about it. and 3.) there was nothing in the agreement that prevented other dealerships from negotiating their own deals which may or may not have been better.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,327
    Or in Canada, instead of $$ per square meter, is it now $$ per square decimeter? I just realized I don't know how it's priced in Canada.

    I checked an ad....carpeting is usually sold per sq. ft still. I believe they use sq meter quite often, but, I guess they found there isn't anything smaller except per sq cm or mm, which would be kind of ridiculous.

    One good thing about our meters is we just entered a trade deal with the European market, and I think you have to be in the decimal system to trade with them.

    Besides, we get to go 100 on our highways.....kilometers per hour that is though(about 64 mph). Though some Americans were coming across the border and assumed that was mph. Now, there are big signs explaining.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,896
    Maybe I'm getting too conservative (this coming from a guy that has no problem whatsoever in buying a car on any whim, and justifying it in his own mind).

    But, in my so far unsuccssful attempt to find a "nice" luxo-beater as a 2nd vehicle, I keep wondering why someone would toss down $5K up front on a lease, when that would buy a pretty decent luxo-beater, with no payments?

    In my quest, I think my next car will be a step down from the German lux cars. I just don't see the value in the $$$$$ they now cost (purchase + maintenance + repairs + taxes. etc). These are my personal feelings with all due respect given to my esteemed and respected bretheren here who like German luxo cars.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,563
    edited October 2013
    I would urge you to stop by a dealership and check it out for yourself. It looks like a Benz, but I don't know if it handles like one .

    Ok it was raining yesterday during lunch so instead of taking my usual walk I decided to take a ride and check out the CLA. Now there are two MB dealers about ten minutes away from work (in different directions) so I went to one however they had sold all they had. So I went to the other dealership and was told that the last one they had was driven off the lot less than an hour earlier.

    Both dealerships told me they were selling them as fast as they came in.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,196
    Your problem finding a nice 5K luxo beater is probably related to the possibility that are too many dudes are looking for the same thing. Demand is probably pushing prices to 7K or more. Especially with gas prices dropping.
  • tyguytyguy ColoradoPosts: 800
    I'll gladly adopt the metric system in the US if ever given the chance. But if we change, then it needs to be completely converted, unlike the mixed system in the UK. I'm all for unique national identities and culture, but I do wish we would globally standardize on measurements, language (toughest one), paper size, and which side of the road we drive on.
  • verdugoverdugo Posts: 1,977
    " language (toughest one), "

    English is pretty much a de facto universal language already.

    Totally agree on paper size and measurements.
  • dino001dino001 Tampa, FLPosts: 3,429
    This may be regional or temporary. Both dealers in Tampa bay show five in stock each.

    2012 BMW 328i wagon, manual and sports package. No. sold in the US: 1. Probably.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,563
    My guess it is only temporary, the cars are just starting to trickle int the showrooms and it a new model with some buzz behind it. My guess is after a month or so when they are being delivered with more regularity and those who have to have them have them I am sure they will be spending more time at the dealers.

    There are three types of people in this world. Those who are good at math and those who are not.

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,125
    Both dealerships told me they were selling them as fast as they came in.

    My dealer told me the same thing. They took delivery of 45 this month and have only one left on the lot.

    The CLA is in direct competition with the Cadillac ATS, but is slightly less expensive than the ATS. A loaded ATS MSRP's for about $37,500 while an equivalent CLA is about $36,500.

    My dealer tells me they have 50 CLA's coming in next month, but 35 are already sold. They are not having to discount them on order to beef up sales, that's for sure.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,355
    No discounts??

    That drives the mooches NUTS!
  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,196
    New CLA's aren't being shopped by mooches. We are all over at the Honda Stores. That's where a mooch can be a mooch.
  • Michaell@EdmundsMichaell@Edmunds ColoradoPosts: 1,175
    And if you peek in on the Accord, Civic or CR-V forums in "Prices Paid" you'll find that most of the folks there are looking to get $500-1500 below invoice for a 2013 model and a few hundred below invoice on a new 2014.

    michaell@edmunds.com

    Moderator, Prices Paid and Leasing Experiences

    2013 Hyundai Elantra GT / 2010 Mazda CX-7 GT / 2014 MINI Countryman S ALL4

  • abacomikeabacomike South FloridaPosts: 3,125
    edited October 2013
    That drives the mooches NUTS!

    That's for sure! But they can try. In a few months, they'll give them away as they do E, C, and GLK class vehicles.

    My doctor went in to try to lease the new S Class sedan. He is finishing his lease on his 2011 sedan. The lease was $1850 a month with $5K up front.

    I drove one last week - I would compare that new S Class with a Bentley Sedan. Even though the S Class is $120,000 less, it drives beautifully and the interior is like a Rolls. But my doctor is waiting until Dec or Jan to get a better deal. Right now, there are almost none available - you have to order one (2 month wait) to get anything near what you would want.

    2014 Mercedes Benz CLS 550 - best car ever! 2nd best car ever, my 1967 Corvette Stingray Coupe with 435 hp.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,018
    "...I quit P&G years ago..."

    Plus there's that devil worship thing.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,709
    edited October 2013
    Speaking of P&G, the Proctors and Gambles are many of the giant old tombstone plots in Spring Grove Cemetery representing founders of industry along with Kroger and some other names.. This is a near downtown Cincinnati cemetery that is hundreds of acres. It's also an arboretum holding many specimen trees.

    A family put up two SpongeBob markers for their adult daughters with permission. The cemetery changed their mind after the markers went up. They are bearing all the costs to put up different markers for the family.

    http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/spring-grove-cemetery-takes-down-soldiers-sp- - ongebob-squarepants-tombstone

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/22/us/spongebob-gravestone-controversy/

    IT's relevant because the cemetery also hosts a large cruise in once a year using the parking around the new funeral home built in one corner of the land. Here are this year's pictures, if you like to browse old cars. A few hundred were there last Sunday, and so was I to view the cars.
    The car show ends with a tour of the cemetery by all the cars that wish to be in the parade. I've never stayed for that.

    http://countrycruiser.com/2013/grove/index.htm

    We sometimes go through the miles of winding roads in the early spring to see the early bloomers. Beautiful. It actually raises your spirits because it's so beautiful at times.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 6,018
    edited October 2013
    "...a nice luxo-beater..."

    You can't go wrong with a Mark VIII. I finally got comfortable enough to light up the tires today and was impressed. It handles really well for an old man's car.

    I think I paid at the top end of what they are going for because of the low miles. If you were willing to settle for a little more milage, say, 90-100k you could get a 97-98 for the $2500 range.
    http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ctd/4131918952.html

    Another choice could be a Caddy Eldorado. I think by the end of it's run in 2002 GM solved the 4.6L Northstar head gasket problem which made for one hot little 300hp engine. Probably could be had for $5-6k.

    2009 PT Cruiser, 2008 Eclipse, 1995 Mark VIII, 1988 GMC Van

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