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2007 and newer Lincoln Navigators

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  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I purchased one of the first 2008 Navi's in my area last August.

    I've seen several sites suggesting that the new SYNC system IS available on my truck.

    All of the "official" SYNC stuff I can find on the web suggests that it is not. Calling the dealership will probably hopeless and I don't want to go in just to ask a question.

    My instruction manual doesn't mention SYNC at all.

    Can anyone confirm if SYNC is, in fact available on the 2008 Navigator? If so, how do I activate it, and if not, can I have it installed?

    Thanks to all "ford folks" who help out around here!!
  • dds010dds010 Posts: 33
    Anyone know what other changes the Navi will have when it gets the 6.2, hopefully almost a complete redesign of everything on the outside INCLUDING the body shell which would allow them to change the shape of it which hasnt been done since 1998
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    Only the 6.2L engine has been leaked so far. No word on sheetmetal changes. It is needed but OTOH Ford has a lot of other areas that need improvement and they can't do everything at once.
  • dds010dds010 Posts: 33
    They need to focus on the Navi not sharing almost ever body panel with the Expedition, and taking some of its curb weight off
  • navpowernavpower Posts: 1
    Has anyone heard abour Saleen releasing a supercharger for the Navigator?
  • Hey im doing a project for school. Does anyone know the price of a 4 steel-belted radial, michelin tires that would fit a Lincoln navigator?

    Thanks.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,666
    Go to tirerack.com and it will show you tires with prices that fit any vehicle you choose.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I've had my 2008 gator for over 6 months and now that I've settled into the beast I wanted to post a few comments on the truck in case anyone out there is interested...

    Driving impression-- whisper quiet and ultra smooth. No steering wheel vibrations at all -- even at high speeds. I don't know how they could make this truck any quieter or smoother feeling on the road. Nice!

    Acceleration -- the 300 horses seem fine to me. I never feel like I need more juice -- the truck responds nicely to my foot. I get around 11-14 MPG. Filling up the beast from empty costs over 80 bucks -- regular gas. However, if you're going to complain about gas prices, I don't recommend you get a full size SUV.

    SYNC -- I am a little annoyed that SYNC was not made available for the 08 model -- and upgrading does not seem to be possible. I miss bluetooth.

    Rearview camera -- nice and USEFUL feature on the rearview mirror. I can see the logic of putting in the rearview mirror, but the image is a little small though -- I would've preferred it on the nav screen.

    Brake dust -- HUGE improvement over the '03 model I had a few years ago. The 20 inch chrome wheels stay VERY clean. The little brake dust that does accumulate is a very fine, grayish color that can hardly be seen from a few feet away. I want to thank the folks at ford for fixing that problem. My '03 Gator had a horrible break dust problem -- the rims would become black with soot after a day or two of normal driving.

    Parking sensors -- FORD.... PLEASE PUT PARKING SENSORS IN THE FRONT END OF THIS TRUCK. I'm always scared that I'll hit the car or wall infront of me when parking. The large, tall hood makes it very difficult to gauge distances infront of you. The rear sensors/camera combo are GREAT!

    Keys: This truck still uses the conventional key plus key fob system. I hope Ford considers putting in a "smart key" option on future gators. Not having to pull out a key or key fob to open/lock the doors plus turn on the truck would a very nice and useful feature for me. My old Lexus LS 430 with smart key spoiled me rotten!

    Styling -- Inside:
    Very luxurious, high quality "looking and feeling" materials throughout the cabin. Everything is well laid out and the center console is pure ART. The seats are thick and fat with a nice leather feel.

    I'm not crazy about the square instrument gauges though. I would also prefer a more "lexusish" gear shifter -- it's just a personal preference, but I like the thinner, wood knob, zig zag design of other lux cars/trucks. Also, a power telescoping steering wheel (power tilt is there) should've been included.

    Outside:
    I had to convince myself to like the front end. I can certainly see why some say the front resembles a shaver or cheese grater! It's one of those unconventional looks though, that with time, grew on me. The rear end is okay, it's just a big square flat butt, nothing special or horrible about it.

    The power folding running boards, power liftgate, and power fold flat third row continue to be amazing features that you quickly learn to take for granted. When you try out other trucks without these features you'll find it very hard to see yourself living without them.

    Overall impression -- I could not find another full size lux SUV that offered the room and the luxury that the gator does. Mechanically, the truck has been rock solid so far and it seems like Ford has really taken their "quality is job one" motto seriously. These trucks always seem to be discounted quite heavily, too - -so the price resprensts a decent value.

    To me, the Escalade looks nicer, but the third row is a joke and a deal breaker for me. The Mercedes GL looks fantastic, but the third row is too small -- even though it folds flat. The infiniti QX is a real contender -- great third row, lots of techno goodies, and a very nice, recently updated interior...but I think the exterior styling is a mess. That truck looks like it was pasted together in three seperate blocks -- and the front is even more of an "aquired taste" than the gator.

    Overall, I'm happy with the Navigator. For those price shopping, I got the 4X2 version with the elite package and 20 inch chromes. Got it on a 24 month lease (getting new cars every couple of years is my only vice :))), it all came out to a little less that two grand to start and eight hundred bucks a month for two years. These trucks are in plentiful supply so you probrably could do better with stronger negotiation. Local ads in my area have the truck leasing for 39 months at $600 per month plus tax with a TRUE sign and drive. I doubt you get the elite package and the chromes for that price though.

    Okay, enough rambling..... I hope some nugget in this LONG post helps someone.

    Oh, and host, how about changing the name of the thread to "2007 and newer Navigators" or something like that?

    Take care all!!
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,021
    Time flies. :shades:

    Thanks for the hint, and thanks for the review!

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    Need help navigating? stever@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • troyd75826troyd75826 Posts: 1
    what is supposed to fit in the molded plastic tray under the top cover of the center console? the Kleenex Jr. box that fit in the previous generation no longer fits. This is really bothering me. What is supposed to go there?

    Thanks
    Troy
  • montobahnmontobahn Posts: 11
    My exact feelings and experience almost to the word!

    I would add to your review the absence of a cabin air filter. To me, this oversight is not befitting a luxury vehicle of this class.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Good question. I searched and searched but it seems the only thing that will fit in there is the tiny softshell packs meant to go in purses.

    I like and use the pen clips on the sides of the holder, though.

    Why design a tissue box holder that won't hold any typically found tissue boxes -- I don't know.

    Ford folks in here... any hints?
  • the_big_althe_big_al Posts: 1,069
    that the Lincoln now trails the Caddy in terms of sales and "quality", especially when Lincoln was first to the market and Cadillac had to rush an Escalade to market. The first Navagator at least was different enough from the Expedition to warrant it's higher cost, but the first Escalade was nothing more than a Yukon with a Cadillac badge. The thing was atrocious for how much it cost.

    Now the Escalade is the vehicle Lincoln is trying to measure up too? What happened there? FWIW I think the Escalade is a better vehicle, even the 1st one. I'll probably never own one, but only because It'll be years before I can think about owning one and I would much rather own something a little more practical.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I just read that Ford has shut down the plant that churns out Expeditions and Navigators until at least late August due to slow sales.

    Is this true?
  • gregg_vwgregg_vw Posts: 2,415
    You sound like Byron Katie ("is that true?")!

    These have to be some of the toughest models to move right now. Very few people actually need the capabilities of the very largest SUVs, and if you don't there are many compelling CUVs out there with greater refinement, about as much usable room and better mpg, Ford provides these two models with only one thirsty and relatively weak (to the class) engine choice, not to mention the dated styling. They could probably close off production for most of the rest of the year and not lose any more $$$ than they are now.
  • I purchased a used 2008 Navigator last month. It has many bells and whistles. What it does not have is the Hands Free Phone option. There is a phone button on the dash, but it does nothing when pushed. Can this option be activated and if so, at what cost? Thanks in advance for your help.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    I have an 08 Navi, too. No SYNC option was available on this truck. There is a dealer instaleld option available but I think the method/hookups vary by dealer. I think they put the phone button there for "future" use. Pretty strange to put a useless button on there, huh?

    By the way.. the Navi has been a GREAT ride so far. I am giving her up this summer at lease end. Has anyone heard if they are still making these puppies?
  • markdimarkdi Posts: 33
    What technological advancements did Cadillac make?

    Did you know that the navigator has an independant rear axle?
  • markdimarkdi Posts: 33
    I test drove both, and I did not notice any underpower you speak of about the navigator. In fact, I thought it had more acceleration. Are you talking about acceleration, or shear power as in towing? Acceleration and "power" do not mean the same thing-please clarify. If you want a fat vehicle, then an suv is not the right vehicle. A small electric car might be the quickest. What are you looking for? Get a BMW M series if you want a powerful engine.
  • markdimarkdi Posts: 33
    Hmmm. I dont even own a Nav, but I test drove both. The nav looks more refined, does not have cheap plastic gawdy interior trim like the escalade, and has a nicer drive. If any one of them has BLING, it is the ESCALADE! That thing is a terrible rap star looking gawdy thing. You did not mention that nobody "needs" an ESCALADE! DId you know that a new escalade is about 75 grand? That is WAY more than a Nav. Who is kidding who?

    Nobody NEEDS a home over 100,000 dollars either! We dont need shore houses either. So we should get rid of them all right? I am sure that Cadillac has a whole bunch of irrational purchasers just like YOU!
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