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2004-2009 Toyota Prius Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,719
    "However, some of the points didn't make sense.
    You would not be taking your NEW car to a non dealer anyway because that's what the new car factory warranty is for.
    Of course one place is not going to fix damage caused by someone else for free.
    If the first place caused damage, they are responsible for the damage and will have to fix it or pay to have it fixed. "

    Well, I was replying to a different post, but here goes.

    The whole point of EXTENDED warranties is that it applies AFTER the normal warranty. With a Toyota extended warranty, the service is done at the dealer. That was my point.

    The second item was that if an "outside" shop fixes a problem wrong and it causes a different error, then the dealer may not fix it. For example, most cars have a 50K or more warranty on the transmission. The Prius has the 10/150K warranty. Yes, if it can be demonstrated definitely that the "outside" shop caused the damage, they have to fix it. However, the Toyota dealer may be the only ones that know for sure that a problem was related to a prior fix. If the "outside" shop denies they are related, you are stuck between, forced to take the "outside" shop to court.

    That whole process is messed up compared to getting a manufacturer extended warranty.

    But in any case a 3rd party extended warranty is inadvisable for the Prius (or any Hybrid) for the simple reason that the HSD is so complex that only the Toyota dealer should touch it.
  • jweaver39jweaver39 Posts: 15
    if everyone would calm down and look at the long range picture, it is obvious toyota is taking advantage of high gas prices and the mania surrounding it. if you want to save gas get a 4-cyl.that gets 30-40 mpg and wait 2-3yrs when automakers(honda,chevorlet,ford & toyota) will have many more hybrid models available and dealers will not be able to take advantage of you, buyers you be in control!!
  • bob104bob104 Posts: 94
    Good advice. The small, fuel-efficient car you buy today will still be worth plenty when you go to sell it. The Civic I bought in 02 hardly lost $1,000/year. The Yaris and Fit should be excellent values. Problem is they might also be selling for a premium.

    from Consumer Reports:
    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/buying-advice/most-fuelefficien- t-cars-206/index.htm

    Fuel Economy
    Rank Make & Model CR Overall MPG City MPG Highway MPG 150-mile trip MPG
    1 Toyota Prius Base 44 35 50 48
    2 Toyota Prius Touring 42 34 47 48
    3 Honda Civic Hybrid 37 26 47 45
    4 Toyota Camry Hybrid 34 28 41 37
    5 Toyota Yaris Base (manual) 34 26 42 41
    6 Honda Fit Sport (manual) 34 26 39 40
    7 Toyota Yaris Base 33 23 44 40
    8 Nissan Altima Hybrid 32 27 36 35
    9 Toyota Corolla LE 32 23 40 39
    10 Honda Fit Base 32 22 43 38
    11 Honda Civic EX (manual) 31 22 40 37
    12 Hyundai Accent GS (manual) 30 23 36 35
    13 Kia Rio5 SX (manual) 30 23 36 35
    14 Mini Cooper S (manual) 30 22 38 36
    15 Mazda3 i (manual) 30 21 42 36
    All have Overall MPG of 30 or higher
  • bob104bob104 Posts: 94
    From Consumer Reports. BTW, I paid only $500 more for my Touring#6 than for a Base#6. What makes the Touring get worse mileage is its sticky 195mm tires over the Base's 185mm tires. Somehow, though I wouldn't get the Touring again, I did get my moneysworth and then some when I safely braked HARD in heavy 70mph traffic near Las Vegas. In that case, the 10foot margin of safety saved me a bad collision.

    Toyota Prius Touring: First Drive


    The high-end Touring version of Toyota's Prius has wider wheels and tires and a tighter suspension than the car's base version. Online subscribers have often asked whether to opt for the Touring Prius, so we put it to the test. Our Touring car cost $24,803, which is $895 more than a base model.
    Along with an option package including electronic stability control, this Touring Prius did have better handling and braking than a previously tested base model. It got through our avoidance maneuver 3 mph faster, which puts it on a par with some of the better-performing family sedans. It also stopped about 10 feet shorter from 60 mph. The main performance drawback is lower mpg: 42 vs. 44.

    CR's take. Mileage for the Touring Prius is still much better than that for any other five-passenger car we've tested, and the edge in performance could give drivers an extra margin of safety. We think that's worth the extra money.
  • I soooo love this debate. And I think you are exactly right. Here's why...

    Compare Prius vs. Yaris. At $4 per gallon and 12,000 miles per year, you are saving $550 in gas money TOTAL. Assuming you are going to only keep the car for 5 years, a 60 month bank loan for a $26,000 Prius would be $502.65 a month.
    And a $14,000 Yaris would be $270.66 per month. So in 3 months you have already spent more on car payments than you actually saved on gas money. Now multiply that by the whole 60 months = $13,919.40 difference in car payments made. Subtract the yearly $550 gas savings = $11,169.40. You have paid over 11 GRAND to "SAVE GAS MONEY." I don't get it.

    Some guy in this forum said "Well what if gas is $20 per gallon. It could happen." THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. If gas were $20 per gallon our economy would be destroyed so fast it wouldn't matter what kind of car you drove. The trucking industry would crumble, meaning every consumer product that is trucked would cost 5 or more times as much. There would be zero gas powered mass transit, no buses or planes or taxis. It would be the Great Depression Part II. With $20 per gallon gas you could probably trade your $26,000 Prius for a newspaper or some already chewed bubble gum if you were lucky.

    All we can hope for in the near future is to build more nuclear power plants to give us electricity that doesn't rely on fossil fuels to power electric vehicles and even before that, pray that the oil companies start drilling oil on the U.S. public lands they already have a green light to drill on and pray they get green lights to drill in areas they don't already have permission because a squirrel might be inconvenienced.

    Any way to lessen our dependence on foreign oil, I'm for it 100% but I'm not going to spend an extra $186 a month to do so. I'm going to stick to a $14,000 car or wait for the little "minis" to come out later this year or next year.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Gas will probably not stay flat at $4 per gallon for the next 5 years. Did gas prices stay flat the previous 5 years? 5 years ago people where assuming gas wouldn't go over $2 a per gallon in 5 years.

    The Yaris will still be cheaper, but it isn't a comparable car. The Prius is a more substantial car with more space and many more features than just the hybrid battery.
    If they make something a Yaris hybrid in a few years, then that will be something to compare it to.
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,676
    OK, we're starting to veer a bit far afield for the "prices paid" discussion. There are a load of other Prius-related and fuel-related discussions that make more sense for this line of conversation. Thanks!

    Need help navigating? kirstie_h@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • magicboy2magicboy2 Posts: 3
    So why would anyone lease a Prius right now? Now before you jump on me, I'm not saying this because I think the Prius is a bad car. I'm saying this because you can look on used car sites and see two and three year old Priuses selling for close to what a new one goes for, yet the residual values assigned to them in the lease programs are far below Infiniti, Acura, etc?

    If a three year old Prius is selling for near what a new one goes for, shouldn't the lease cost next to nothing? Yet people are paying upwards of $300/mo! Makes no sense.
  • Hello Old coach,

    Can you share where you bought your Prius? I am in the market. Thanks so much!

    smokemirrors
  • oldcoacholdcoach Posts: 28
    I would be glad to share my purchase information with you. I got my 208 Prius on May 29,2008, from FERRIS TOYOTA in NEW PHILADELHIA , OHIO. I was treated real good and feel I got a fair deal. Need any more information let me know. OLDCOACH
  • I have a deal in the works for purchasing a 2008 Prius for $2K over MSPR. This is for a Touring #6 so the MSRP is approximately $28K (out the door of $30K). I've been looking for a long time and don't have a car now because I sold it. There is a long waiting list all over the place, so I would pay a premium to get one now. What do you guys think?
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,569
    I have a deal in the works for purchasing a 2008 Prius for $2K over MSPR. This is for a Touring #6 so the MSRP is approximately $28K (out the door of $30K). I've been looking for a long time and don't have a car now because I sold it. There is a long waiting list all over the place, so I would pay a premium to get one now. What do you guys think?

    I wouldn't pay over MSRP no matter how popular the car is now. There ARE also dealers who will still sell for MSRP or less in this market; so what if you have to wait. You may not have much of a choice if you are in Hawaii.

    The dealers who gouge buyers based on "market adjustments" are entitled do so in a a free market economy but they permanently go on my personal sh*t list, and I will never buy from them.

    Any savings in gasoline or personal satisfaction you might derive with the car are more than offset by the price premium, IMHO.
  • bob104bob104 Posts: 94
    The buildyourown configurator at toyota.com prices out an 08Touring#6 at $28,605, msrp including destination, no mats. So if they're offering you that car at $28,000 you're getting it at $600 below msrp.

    In CA, with sales tax of 7.75%, title, etc. it costs about $31,000 or so OTD.

    As to the idea of paying a premium, I don't like it but it MAY be worth it as currently the next best cars to my thinking, Yaris and Fit, burn about 90 gallons more gasoline per 12,000 miles. Hard to project the resale market three-five years from now as to gasoline prices and the much wider choices in fuel-efficient cars. Yaris and Fit may seem like SUVs by then. I would think that the 42-44mpg Prius would tend to hold its value better than the 32-34mpg Yaris or Fit. My 30 mpg 02Civic only lost about $1,000 per year.
  • mazaniacmazaniac Posts: 2
    Many Toyota dealers have flat out lost their frickin minds. I saw one in Daytona Beach showing $6,500 ABOVE MSRP on their web site!! If I'm not willing to pay sticker for a car, I'm certainly not going to pay above it no matter how "popular" or "rare" the dealer says the car is. How is a brand new mass-produced car "rare?" Same thing happened here at various dealers across North Fla. that folks have mentioned, . . . no wiggle room, waiting lists, sticker price, and extras crammed down your throat. Was haggling with one sales manager at one dealership when a salesman walked up and asked "is this deal going through or should I call the next people on the list?" Blatant sales technique, but the rudeness of it pissed me off to no end. Lowered my offer from the previous one, laughed, and walked. Would have LOVED to have a Prius, but driving the darn thing for five years to make up the difference in over-cost vs. fuel savings would have driven me nuts. I'll wait. Besides, they are pissing a lot of people off and as soon as some viable alternative start hitting the market they are going to be in for a rude awakening when they're market share takes a big hit.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,719
    "Would have LOVED to have a Prius, but driving the darn thing for five years to make up the difference in over-cost vs. fuel savings would have driven me nuts. I'll wait."

    Why don't you investigate buying one in another state, and shipping it to FLA? We have lots of them here in LA.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    For many people, a Corolla will make more financial sense than a Prius at $6500 over MSRP or even $6.50 over MSRP.
  • m2mazda6m2mazda6 Posts: 20
    Who Whoo I get my car Sliver Pine pkg 2 on Wednsday after work 2 1/2 months
    wait, could have gotten it sooner but we were picky on the paint Sliver Pine :)
  • sharon22sharon22 Posts: 28
    m2mazda6 - Congratulations! You were patient and willing to wait and your patience was finally rewarded. As you know, I didn't want to pay the $700 for the Toyoguard on a pkg. 2 or any "greed" fees so I switched to a Seaside Pearl rather than holding out for the Silver Pine Mica and risk having it configured differently. I don't regret that decision and love driving this car!! You and your wife will too!!!
  • Thanks for the responses. I test drove the Fit and although I was impressed by the interior (seats go flat, sturdy interior, youthful looking display, etc.), the drive was bumpy and acceleration not so quick. I would pay more to get the Prius, especially if gas continues to rise, I feel it will be worth it. I am so disappointed by the fact that the NAV system in Toyota cars (including the Prius) don't work in Hawaii because the car I will get comes with it (package 6 touring). But, I still want it because I may move my car back to the mainland someday.
  • consumer8consumer8 Posts: 1
    I too had my share of what I call 'Gouging' and the dealership called Market Adjustment of 5000.00 over MSRP. The salesperson had the nerve to compare this to the Katrina disaster when bottles of water were being sold at 5 to 6 dollars a pop! He bragged that the public was buying them and I told him that this is the time when the government should step in and do something about this crap! He lowered the price by 500.00 and we walked out. I refuse to be one of the folks that are being taken advantage of. I think we do need to be patient and wait for the influx of new hybrids that will saturate the market probably within months if not a year. Just needed to get this off my chest, I am still fuming about this.
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