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Top 10 Turnaround Tips for GM/Ford/Chrysler



  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    Yeah, that car is pretty nice. It would do very well if Ford doesn't muck it up like they did the Contour.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Ford tried that with the Merkur line a couple of decades ago. Problem was, while the Merkur was fast, it was also very european, in that it started rusting in the showroom, and was miserably unreliable. Didn't work here. Miserably unreliable only sells in America if it's German or English elite.

    But I agree with your premise. If they did it could work.

    I don't know if Ford will make it or not. A lot is riding on the rebirth of the Taurus on the back of the very good, but very undesirable 500 and Freestyle. A lot is in a name - I just hope it's been restyled enough. Ford has not much else out there new to ride on, and they need to sell a buttload of cars to generate enough cash to stay alive while they develop more new cars.....

    The Focus desperately needs a replacement, as does the Ranger. The Fusion is doing well, but the Edge is uncertain at this point. Lincoln has been totally ruined - it may never recover.

    The Mustang is cool, and it's good, but what's next there??

    The Ford trucks are languishing a bit too. The Expedition has to stay competitive in the looks department now that GM has copied their style, making their SUVs look fresher than Fords. If not, just like the Fords. The Explorer - clearly the best ever made, is slated to be converted to a crossover - a mistake, IMO, but I guess we'll see. I think Alan is trying all the right moves - can he do it in time is the question.....
  • Ford should absolutely bring that Mondeo over here. What a great looking car. Very close to the 3 series BMW but not quite as "Bangled". But Alan may not bring it over. Bill will have to remind him it's not made by EADS.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    Edmunds has a spy shot of a RWD Aussie Ford Falcon tester being uncrated in Detroit so it looks like anything is possible right now.

    Although, the news of the Mondeo being considered for the U.S. did break a few months ago and IIRC Mullaly already said no or not yet anyway. I think he did approve the S-Max for the U.S. though.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    Just heard that Chrysler LLC is making major changes (Dodge all trucks?).
    Here is what they really need to do:

    All models can stay except the Nitro, Caliber, and maybe Dakota. Interior quality should move up extensively. The exteriors should move away from this bold look to a more refined look (except the Challenger). The Charger is an awesome car, so that can stay bold. Replace the Caliber with something that better competes with the Civic/Scion tc.
    Easy. Cut the slow selling Compass. Turn the Patriot into a real softy so people will stop complaining about the way it handles and interior, but keep its offroad ability. I think there is reason enough for the Comander to stay, but Cerberus has been chop happy, so if they had to chop something else, It would be this. Push Jeep's exclusivity.
    Hard. Move to luxury (sort of like between Buick and Cadillac). Chop the Sebring line completely. Replace with something that could almost compete with a CTS or BMW 3. Don't Change 300- just improve the interior and driving dynamics to be able to compete with the likes of Cadillac STS. Chrysler Aspen=gone. Replace this and the Pacifica with a crossover that competes with the Acura MDX. Keep the Town & Country.

    This way, none of the brands overlap. Only two loke models would be the Town & Country and Caravan- and they sell! I hope Chrysler LLC is reading.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    A great car- for 5 years ago. The exterior looks dated. The grille- which came straight from the MKR- looks bad here. And the back end- plain. At least this isn't a Ford model in a tux. And the interior is nice.
    A step up for Lincoln, but they still have a ways to go. Their greatest product- the MKX is nothing but an Edge with one of Lincoln's many different grilles.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    No brainer. GM is in the least. Ford is in the Most. Chrysler is in between. GM has totally reformulated its brands, revitalizing both Buick and Pontiac- which were in trouble, and making quality a lot better. Caddy is a BMW fighter. For the first time in a while, i actually want to buy a GM vehicle.
    Chrysler has a lot of reworking on its hands, but it has some potential. They are however making the most drastic changes. But Ford is by far worst off. They are still desgning cars that are outdated and no one wants- like the MKS, and the 500-er-Taurus. Its best efforts still fall short, like the Edge (which needs a third row) and the Flex (which should be an Edge with a third row). Ford still needs to sell Jag and Land Rover. They need to focus more.
  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,120
    ...the answer is easy for both Lincoln and Ford. Lincoln should make its next Town Car look similar to that concept that closely resembled the classic 1961 Continental and the Crown Vic should look similar to the 427 concept? Mercury? Heck, make something cool like Steve McGarrett's classy 1968 Park Lane!!!

    All of them need to get off their butts and put out a decent subcompact hybrid. I saw an ad for Honda's fuel cell car. Oh, for ANYTHING to tell our Middle Eastern "friends" they can just keep their sloppy black goo.
  • albookalbook Posts: 1,282
    i love the way the Mondeo looks, but we're no getting. hopefully somthing jsut as good looking?
  • 1. Car companies should be run by car nuts and not bean counters.
    2. Designers should be draw distinct exciting vehicles. Too many look-a-likes already.
    3. Monthly executive compensation and labor wages tied directly to number of vehicles sold for the month.
    4. Put an end to "the management" vs."the union" crap.
    5. Build vehicles that Americans want, not vehicles that your marketing/advertsising departments can sell.
    6..There is no trade offs when it comes to quality.

    I would settle for 6.

  • The #1 cost for GM and the reason it's going belly up is LABOR. The #1 way to eliminate this problem and survive is Bankruptcy. GM may make some enemies, but that's life and if they are to survive, Labor is where they start. Period.

    Alongside of labor are the enormous growing costs of lifetime health care. When GM files for bankruptcy, all agreements with the UAW are legitimately over.

    it's time to make employee's and ex-employees pay for some of the costs, like all other American's do. This should also apply to those in States and the Federal Government who get gold plated benefits plans.

    Under new labor agreements structured to benefit the company more than the workers, you allow the company to survive, as well as keep jobs, good paying ones, and create a balanced benefits plan where the burden of costs are shared. This is not only fair, but what sane minded people agree on.

    After Bankruptcy and new Labor agreements with competing labor units, and possibly newly created unions, GM can remain afloat while it focuses on producing vehicles that get 40 mpg or better and consolidate their lines to offer less models, but higher quality with a greater profit margin.

    Together with realistic labor agreements, strong supplier alliances and models that people want to buy, GM will breathe fresh air and those who invest and buy GM stocks will remain confidant and retain more of their hard earned money.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,006
    Here's another:

    If the manufacturers file banko, they can get rid of the franchised dealers too. Let us go to a lot somewhere with some demos to test and then let us order a car direct from the factory built to our specs.

    GM can hire their own mechanics and build central service facilities to handle the warranty claims and other work. They'll have so much more incentive to keep their costs down, reliability should soar.

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  • 1. GM/Ford/Chrysler need to publicly endorse and lobby for H.R.676, the Medicare for All bill that's before Congress right now. If the Big 3 don't have to pay for the health care of hundreds of thousands of current employees and retirees, costs to manufacture cars will go WAY WAY WAY WAY down.

    2. The Big 3 need to publicly endorse and lobby for H.R.25, the FairTax Act that's before Congress right now. This bill eliminates ALL federal taxes (payroll, income, capital gains, etc.) and replaces them with a inclusive sales tax. With all of the taxes removed from the components of cars and removed from employee labor, costs to manufacture cars will go WAY WAY WAY WAY down.
  • bpizzutibpizzuti Posts: 2,743
    Don't be like GM and Chrysler. Continue to show that you're not GM or Chrysler. Avoid taking a bailout at all costs and incurring the wrath of the American public, like GM and Chrysler (who in this area are now seriously offering 50% off deals just to get people to come in a buy cars, that's how much trouble they're in).
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    I thought this was a good analysis of the restructuring plans for GM and Chrysler:
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    its been awhile since anyone has posted here and a lot has happen to the American auto companies since a year ago, namely, the chapter 11 bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler and the increased market share and resale value of Ford!

    Personally, of the big 3, I don't know if Chrysler is going to make it in the long run; they seem to still be struggling terribly even since bankruptcy so I can't really think of what else they can do except streamline down the Dodge line to maybe 3-4 models and make it the distinctive sport division of Chrysler, similar to Scion for Toyota and I think they really need to completely scrap and start from scratch on all current Chrysler models, inside and outside

    so what do you think Ford, GM, and Chrysler need to do to continue changing their companies for the better?? do you think Chrysler is even going to make it at all??

    the changes and positive sales profit coming out of GM since bankruptcy puts them in the middle of the big three in regards to improvement and I think most of their restructuring changes were good; getting rid of Saab and Saturn was smart; personally, I think they would have been better to get rid of Buick, because they already have a great luxury line in Cadillac, and kept Pontiac, and slimmed down the Pontiac line to 3-4 distinctive sporty models, different from chevy and make it the sports division of GM; GMC line could lose 1 or 2 models and Chevy needs to get their butt moving and revamp busted up boring old models, namely the Impala, among other ones to match newer fresher models like the Malibu, Equinox, and Camaro!

    Ford has impressed me the most, mostly because they took very little amount of loans, compared to GM and Chrysler, and didn't have to declare bankruptcy!! in the last year, their market share has increased and their resale value rose at the end of last year for the first time in awhile so that was positive signs for them; I think what they need to still do is, either get rid of Mercury or, if they are going to keep it, make it a entirely unique division of its own with distinctive styling, perhaps a sport division, and not make it cheap copies/platforms of Ford models with just different grills/headlamps/taillights!; also, Ford needs to get their butt moving a start to revamp Lincoln because right now, Cadillac is kicking their butt, and right now Lincoln's line is bland and boring; Lincoln would probably be the last luxury line I would even consider at this point, so much work to be done there!

    so what do you guys/girls think GM, Ford, and Chrysler need to do to continue to change their companies for the better and do you even think Chrysler is going to make it at all??
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