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Buick Lucerne Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,713
    Stop in at a dealer and ask about using your employee discount and the GM card credits. Or call the GM card number on the back of the card. Their website might even address that question.

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  • I had the exact same problem. The dealer said I could use the GM employee discount and the GM Card points only if I had some sort of special GM card .. I forget right now what the name was. Anyway, I almost walked when they told me that. To keep us from leaving the salesperson "sweetened" the deal enough to make us sit down again. I used the GM points in lieu of the GMED.
  • Karen@EdmundsKaren@Edmunds Posts: 5,024
    A reporter is hoping to talk with Buick Lucerne owners who are long-time Buick loyalists. Please reply to ctalati@edmunds.com no later than Thursday, May 10, 2007 with your daytime contact info and a few words about your experience.

    Karen-Edmunds Community Manager

  • Karen@EdmundsKaren@Edmunds Posts: 5,024
    A reporter is hoping to talk with Buick Lucerne owners who never before owned a Buick. Please reply to ctalati@edmunds.com no later than Thursday, May 10, 2007 with your daytime contact info and a few words about your experience.

    Karen-Edmunds Community Manager

  • I am looking at 2 different Lucerne CXS models, and was wondering if anyone might have some insight they could help me with. First off, I'm debating purchasing a 2006 model with premium paint, htd washer fluid/remote start/parking assist, htd & cooled seats 6-disc cd changer and 18" chrome plated alum wheels that stickers at $38,130, or of leasing a 2007 similarly equiped except it also has a pwr sunroof that stickers at $40,075. I'm looking at a 39 month lease with 20K miles/yr. I may qualify for some or all of the following: loyal Buick owner ($750), cash allowance ($2000/'06), conquest cash ($500 - we also have a foreign car) and SmartBuy trade-in cash allowance on purchase (for the '06 model). Since I need a high mileage lease, maybe with all the incentives for the '06, it might be less to purchase. What do you think, or what calculations should I make to come up with a good comparison estimate? Thanks for your help! (I'll also post this under leasing questions.)
  • wr_guywr_guy Posts: 13
    If the 06 is new, you should be able to get it for about $31k. I'd offer $30k and see what he says.

    I have the same car and I wish I did not have the sunroof. It takes away headroom.
  • dlvhidlvhi Posts: 2
    Aloha

    I am not sure this will help you, but I might as well share it.

    I don't know how this compares to the CXS, but I just bought a new 2006 CX with the following options:

    Driver's Confidence Pkg

    Rear-obstacle-detection system, remote engine start, alarm

    Comfort and Convenience Pkg

    Auto Dimming OSRV Drv Mirror
    Auto Dimming Inside Rear View Mirror
    Illuminated mirror visors
    Universal home remote
    Rainsense intermittent wipers
    6 way power passenger seat
    6 passenger 40/20/20 split front seating

    Ext - Dark Garnet metallic
    Int - Cashmere

    My price out the door was $23,500.

    I would appreciate if anyone has suggestions for seat covers that will protect from spills from young kids.

    Also, any comments on whether I should get the extended warranty.

    I bought an extended warranty on my Aztek 3 years ago because of problems with the A/C that seemed to happen after 3 years.

    Thanks
  • dlvhidlvhi Posts: 2
    Aloha

    I forgot to mention, GM increased their rebates on 6/25.

    The rebate for a new 2006 Lucerne was $4,000.

    It seemed that retail delivery had to be by 6/27 but that seemed like an awful short time fuse.

    In addition to that rebate, I used the $750 Buick owner rebate.
  • tcb30tcb30 Posts: 1
    I have a question. I am trying to research the price on 2006 model year lucernes that are still on the lot. On Edmunds and other sites like this for new cars you can only get pricing information on 2007s and 2008s. How do you get an idea of what the price should be on a 2006 model that is still on the lot? Thanks.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,914
    Consider it a used car... Price it out that way.. then, add a premium for whatever you think the full new car warranty is worth..

    That number will probably be less than they are willing to sell it for.. which is why it is still on the lot.

    regards,
    kyfdx

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • How is your CXL.V8 going. It is the color my wife is looking for, do you want to sell it or know of any others in Sage Mist for sale ? They dropped that color mid 07
  • My dad wants my help looking at 07 Lucernes over the Thanksgiving holiday. Recently a local dealer was offering 07s 6k below invoice. Is that the best deal currently?
  • Where are they offering $6K below invoice? I am considering one and the only incentive I see is $2k incentive off best negotiated deal -- in PA.
  • waltchanwaltchan Posts: 123
    Looking forward to get a new 2009 Buick Lucerne CXL somewhere next year. The options I want are:

    Custom Perforated Leather
    Chrome Appearance Package
    Driver Confidence Package
    Luxury Package
    Side Blind Alert
    Navigation
    Harmon/Kardon Speakers
    Steering Wheel
    Sunroof

    What's the best, most reasonable offer I can get with the dealer with a MSRP sticker of $37,000. I am thinking on trying $8,000 off MSRP. Will that work? If not, how much MSRP off when you purchased your new Lucerne? Buicks aren't hot seller anyway, and I'm sure some dealers offer big discounts. Thank you for any advise given.
  • I just finished negotiaring on a 2008 pretty loaded CXS. I paid about $150 below dealer invoice. I got my dealer cost info from tmv and another source, gm dealers have a 3% holdback on the invoice from GM for their overhead and lights, some vehicles and dealer have to pay a 2% group advertising fee. I don't think they have 8000 in a new vehicle. I got documentation from another source on dealer invoice, units sold per month and best deals from that source.

    Somewhere on this site there is a link for Capital one auto buying, In northern California their deal is $100 over invoice if the car is on the dealer in the programs lot. In southern california its $300 over invoice but a so cal dealer was willing to sell me the car at invoice and truck it 350 mile to me and have me sign the paperwork here.

    I called the sales manager of my local dealer and aksed him if wanted to sell a car and told him what deals I had at other dealers, I completed the deal in about 20 minutes after a month of research and pricing. Given its the end of the year I may have gotten a better deal but there were only 3 cars in the state configured the way I wanted. I also get 2000 cash back from GM and the dealer got me a better interest rate by 1% and its lower than I was able to get from applying to 5 banks and I have excellent credit.

    If you are going to finance I suggest you secure your financing first and then pick your vehicle.

    I used fightingchance.com for price and negotiation tips.

    Dealer Cost Item Retail
    750 destination 750
    33973 list 35950
    622.5 wheels 750
    742.85 heat and cool seats 895
    1614.35 nav sys 1945
    161.85 grillwer 195
    244.85 lane departure 295
    327.85 blind side 395
    124.5 heated steeerign 150
    747 sun roof 900
    0 paint
    39308.75 42225
    819.5 Advertising western region
    40128.25 total 42225
  • beach15beach15 Posts: 1,305
    That's likely a bit too much off, to consider.

    Figure out what invoice is on that car, and consider that your starting point, minus any rebates.

    Hence, if it were a 2008 CXL with those options right now, should have an invoice right around $35,500--so that would be about your starting point. From that, and again just using now as an idea, you could subtract $2000 in rebate cash...so around $33,500.

    Basically, a few months into a model year, and with the fact that the spread between MSRP and invoice is fairly small on a Lucerne...$8k off just isn't feasible. It is right now on leftover 2007's, with extra rebate cash available, but that's about it.

    Just not going to happen, to get that kind of a chunk off, unless it's a leftover 2008 maybe this time next year. Determine invoice price at that time, subtract rebates, and that's your figure.
  • waltchanwaltchan Posts: 123
    Looks like I'll wait near the end of the year model. The only problem is, will the Lucerne with the 3800 V6 will still be in production by the end of 2009? Sources tell me that production on the 3800 engine ends at winter 2008, but it's usually a few months after winter 2008 that there will be some 3800 engines left before it will completely be depleted. If I am lucky, and I hope, I may get the early 2010 with the 3800 engine. The later I buy, the better, since more of my earnings will come in.
  • I've also heard they were phasing out the 3800, which baffles me because as far as I'm concerned it's the best V-6 ever made.
  • waltchanwaltchan Posts: 123
    The 3800 is the last Buick-designed engine ever made. When it is phased out, there will never be a Buick that drives and rides like a Buick again. All Buicks now will get either the GM High Feature engine or the Cadillac Northstar engine. Although more powerful and many people are happy with it, to me, putting in one of the two engines in a Buick will not drive and ride like a real Buick as before in the past. Buick will lost its appeal and character once the 3880 engine is out. I will make sure to snatch one of the last 3800 Lucernes, probably in 2009 or 2010, and I will babied it and keep it as a classic for many years to come. I'm only 23 years old, so I'm at the right time. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I've also heard they were phasing out the 3800, which baffles me because as far as I'm concerned it's the best V-6 ever made.

    Nearly 4 liters yet it doesn't deliver 200 horsepower, which a mainstream 4-cyl car can do these days. It's a torquey engine you say? Yes, it makes decent torque, but even that isn't competitive. Look below: one of these things is not like the other. :blush:

    Buick Lucerne: 3.8L 197hp, 227 lb-ft, 4-speed automatic

    Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable: 3.5L 260hp, 245 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic

    Hyundai Azera: 3.8L 263hp, 257 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic

    Nissan Maxima: 3.5L 255hp, 252 lb-ft, Continuously Variable Transmission

    Toyota Avalon: 3.5L 268hp, 248 lb-ft, 6-speed automatic

    All of the competition makes much more power, most from less displacement. They all also get better fuel economy by as much as 3 MPG both city and highway (not helped by the antiquated 4-speed).

    Buick does have the V8 option, but it can't outrun these V6 vehicles because of the 4-speed auto, and fuel economy (at 15/23) pales next to the Avalon's 19/28 or even Ford, with 18/28. With the 3800 having a worst-in-class 16/25 estimate, it's no fuel miser either.

    The Buick 3800 may be solid and reliable, but that's because its been around so long, all the bugs have been worked out of it. It's being discontinued too late, in my opinion. Give it the 3.6 and ditch the Northstar!
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