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BMW 335i 2007+

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,573
    Please try not to kill my wife and children while performing your "validate my manhood" antics on public roads. Keep it on the track.

    Well, in that particular case I don't believe I ever exceeded 50 mph, and I know that I never crossed the center line; Soob Man was so inept that he slowed to almost a walking pace at every corner(I guess an abject fear of lateral acceleration will do that to you). Anyway, when I drive on the street you could hardly call me a hooligan- I stay in my lane and I keep my speed within within 5-10 mph of the posted limit(although I will admit that I pretty much ignore the "Advisory Speeds" posted at corners and entrance ramps). You won't find me engaging in any full-tilt opposite lock craziness either. Just like when I'm on my Speed Triple, I ride my own ride. The same holds true when I'm behind the wheel of a car. Whether I'm on two wheels or four I don't allow other riders or drivers to coerce me to ride or drive outside my own personal comfort or safety zone. That said, if some anonymous fool behind me doesn't share that philosophy, that's his/her problem.

    I drove the 335xi and found it to be very intriguing, but am jonesing for a bit more hp. What are your thoughts?

    I haven't driven a 335xi, but I've accumulated quite a bit of seat time in the 335i. In my opinion, the power is ample but the weight of the car dulls the handling to the point that it feels more like an E39 5er- to me, anyway. While that's certainly no bad thing, it just doesn't have the direct feel of the E46 3er. As for generating more HP, it's simply a matter of cranking up the boost- and there are already several vendors marketing devices/software that do exactly that. The problem is, there's no free lunch; more boost and more hp will generate more heat- and the 335i cooling system is pretty marginal in stock form. I've considered picking up a 135i in a year or so, but I think I'd probably be happier with an E46 M3 with the Competition Package. Having said all that, if BMW NA decides to import the M5 wagon all bets are off...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "Does anyone find any difference (other than the price) between 91 and 93 octane in the twin-turbo 335 engine?"

    Regarding octane, remember that while the knock sensor will prevent detonation with lower octane fuel, you get no benefit from using fuel rated higher than specified. If BMW recommends 91 octane for optimum performance, using 93 or 100 octane won't result in added performance or economy.

    "fedlawman and his real M3 would slice and dice 99% of the owners on this board even if they were driving a new M Coupe."

    I feel pretty confident about the Wrangler, but an M Coupe I'm not so sure...

    http://www.carspace.com/videos/play!id=.5b3f9bf9
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,573
    If BMW recommends 91 octane for optimum performance, using 93 or 100 octane won't result in added performance or economy.

    Agreed, although in my area the only fuel grades are 87, 89, and 93 octane. These are the "Yellow Label" or AKI numbers, which are an average of the research octane number and the motor octane number. Since BMW usually refers to the AKI rating in their newer owners manuals, that means that 93 is the proper choice for me.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    Here's a nice video of a real M3 thrashing around the Isle of Man -- the only place I know of with no speed limit on rural non-freeway roads (now that the Australia's Northern Territories has adopted 130 kph as of Jan 1).

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/207521/bmw_e30_m3/
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Amazing video!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Wow. That's phenomenal!

    The isle of man is where top gear goes to test cars sometimes. They did the m3 csl test there (loved it), as well as the m6/mkr/911s comparison test.
  • dan12dan12 Posts: 114
    Amazing video!

    Out of curiosity, do any of you guys drive (or race) like that? Is that why you look for such fast cars? Maybe I should stick to something slower so I don't embarrass myself. :)
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I think I passed that guy in the M3 on my way to the office. ;)

    It does go to show you what "only" 240 hp will do in a lightweight, well suspensioned car. (And with a good driver).
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I don't know the specs, but by 1991, the E30 M3 Gruppe A race cars were putting out 370 hp (yes, naturally aspirated 2.5L I-4) at 9,500 RPM. Race weight was about 2300 lbs.

    My 240hp EVO III clone (with soft suspension, leather interior, air conditioning, etc.) will hit 60 MPH in the high 5 second range - a barge by comparison to the full-spec race cars.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    I believe that driver is one of the best in that race class...I posted that clip awhile back. There is no way that car had "only 240 HP".

    Again, one of the best drives I've seen yet on a grueling course like that. The car was airborne a good percentage of the time and 300 degree turns were made with so much precision it is mind-boggling to me!! IMO, that is what an outstanding driver can do given a great car...any other driver, even race bred, would have problems duplicating that run. (BTW, the teammate had to be heavily sedated sitting in that passenger seat!!!)

    Regards,
    OW
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    "Out of curiosity, do any of you guys drive (or race) like that?"

    Like _that_? In my dreams. :)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,032
    Driving like that takes not only great skill, but COURAGE....you've got to be either a)very young, or b) very brave. :P

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    The driver's name is Patrick Snyers from Belgium. I believe he won the 1994 European Rally Championship in an Escort Cosworth...we can see why these guys are so good...he makes a BMW sing, too!

    Regards,
    OW
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    Off Topic, but I wish Speed Channel was still showing WRC -- they seem to have dropped it in favor of the NASCAR niche.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    Check out the test CD posted in July. Here is an excerpt. My take during a recent drive with a non-SP version was the fastest sedan I ever drove so far, including an '05 G35 coupe.

    A Winning Performance Combination

    Even knowing what we know about the engine and tranny, we were still surprised just how quick the 335i automatic is. Indeed, this particular Arctic Metallic 335i coupe was the quickest 3-series coupe we’ve ever strapped our instruments to, and it also ended up right on top of an E46 M3, with 0-to-60-mph passes in 4.9 seconds and 100 mph in 12.1. The quarter-mile happened in a blistering 13.4 seconds at 106 mph, 0.2 second and 1 mph quicker than the 335i manual we tested last year.

    Regards,
    OW
  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    OK, I have about 250 miles on my Sparkling Graphite Metallic 335xi, Premium, Sport (no oil cooler but also no issue either (so far), and ContiProContacts), Cold Weather and PDC. If I can figure this out, I'll post some pictures. They may be large, so be patient with the download.

    I've read a couple thousand postings about "this coupe vs that sedan" and this "RWD vs that AWD". All I can say is that this car is freakin' fantastic! I don't care what all the testosterone-injected junkies say - this car performs like nobody's business. If I could only remove the PO-lice from the bushes, I'd be able to perfect my downshift technique and really command the twisties. Acceleration is never an issue - remember that this car still has TWO turbines cramming air into direct-injected thirsty cylinders waiting for a spark. AND FOUR wheels asking.."When? Now? NOW????"

    If you get this car, get the Sport package. The seats are a little narrow (maybe I'm a little wider than I want?), but I see it as incentive to hit the gym more often.

    I came out of a dedicated and trustworthy Toyota 4Runner, and I loved the ability to literally toss my golf clubs in the back, but I will never regress! Loaded leaf bags and complete dining room sets be damned, 0-60 (at least) and "HANG ON!!!" are the rules of the road from now on!

    xeye

    P.S. The pics didn't seem to work. Can someone help with how to post pic(s) on this site?
  • dan12dan12 Posts: 114
    Thanks for the update and glad to see that the PO-lice hasn't found you yet. I'm still waiting for my 335. Besides tossing stuff in the back of an SUV, I think the other things I will miss are the higher view of the road and the room on the inside. Compared to my SUV, the 335 feels a little tight on the inside. I'm sure I'll get used to it.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    xeye, that's the feeling I got with my '06 xi but without the testosterone! Have fun and stay safe.

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    Regards,
    OW
  • jenno2jenno2 Posts: 13
    Congratulations! Hope you enjoy the car. I was vacillating between this vehicle, and the 328i coupe. With all the run flat issues, and the cost of the 335i coupe, I went up to the 2008 528i. Cost less than the 335i coupe. However, the exact car I was thinking about (335i coupe, dark grey, dark brown interior) pulled up next to me at the stop light today, and as he sped away, I just sighed. Don't get me wrong, I love my 528i, but shoulda, woulda, coulda....
  • white6white6 Posts: 588
    I just checked and, sure enough, my 07 335i Coupe has a B-pillar....?
  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    Jenno2,

    I'm sure the 528 is a fabulous car and you'll enjoy it for a long time. I have to tell you, though, that I was in 6th gear (manual) coming back from Cape Cod this afternoon. I had to pass a slower car around 60 mph, and didn't bother to downshift. I didn't have to! I just pressed a little harder on the go-pedal, the turbines kicked in, and VOOOOOM! No problem! The ContiProContact RFT tires might be a little louder, or it might be my imagination. Either way, it's no issue and until I have a flat, I'm not going to worry about it. When it happens, I'll probably invent some new profanity!

    I love the car. For me, it was a great choice.

    xeye

    I'll work on the pics tomorrow.
  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    I think I figured this out. I hope the shots aren't too large to download. Enjoy!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,658
    an E36 in the background? What's that? I know that's RWD!

    I'm glad you're happy with your car! Looks nice and shiny!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    It worked!

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  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    Hi,

    I'm not up on all the Exx numbers yet, but that's a 1995 318ti with 125,000+ miles on it, and yes, it's RWD and a California native. It's my wife's car (IF she doesn't get her hands on MY car key!). Fortunately, she knows how to drive a Bimmer. I call her Maria Andretti, the daughter Mario never knew he had!. It still runs beautifully, and the (original) clutch is a lot more forgiving than the 335xi. It feels a little like a truck after un-belting from the 335xi, but still a joy to drive.

    Good eyes!

    We're going to join the BBMCCA soon, maybe tomorrow and see what they've got to offer.

    xeye
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,658
    You've got a great car like a '95 318ti with a stick (and what other options? Can you post a pic of it?). You're obviously a car enthusiast (you did get a stick after all) and you still went with the AWD model. I'm sure it is a nice car (your 335xi) and I'm glad you enjoy it and I'm not going to rehash the RWD/AWD bit again. I'm not trying to dog you at all, just wondering what made you choose the Xi.

    BTW, your 318ti is an E36 (all 3 series produced from '92 - '98 + '99 for coupes), the model after that is an E46 (Produced '99 - '05 + '06 for coupes) and your current 335xi is an E90 (3 series sedans from MY '06 to present). It is just an internal code used by BMW for various models picked up by BMW enthusiasts.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,573
    It feels a little like a truck after un-belting from the 335xi, but still a joy to drive.

    That's funny, I drove a 335i convertible for a couple of weeks and I thought that my ti was much more nimble and responsive. The E90 hides it's mass pretty well, but there's no repealing the laws of physics. Of course, the 335i killed it in a straight line, but swapping in a Metric Mechanic 2100 Rally engine would narrow the gap considerably.
    The problem with your E90 clutch is the infamous Clutch Delay Valve, or CDV. There's a simple fix: Get rid of it. More information can be found here.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,573
    BTW, your 318ti is an E36

    If you really want to be technical about it, the ti-or "Compact", as it was known in Europe- is an E36/5 AKA- "Stroke 5".
    The E in the E-code stands for Entwicklung, which means development in German. The E number was assigned at the beginning of the development process. That's right, I said was. BMW apparently doesn't want any three digit codes, so the current 3ers(E90/91/92/93) will be the last E-code Bimmers; the upcoming 7er has been assigned the platform code F01.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • xeyexeye Posts: 162
    I don't think this 318ti has any options! Power windows, maybe? It's a stealth car as it's black, inside & out, in what I think is old BMW tradition. I'll post a shot later today.

    I've posted a shot which hopefully will explain why I chose AWD. I traded the 4Runner for the 335xi. I originally wanted the Coupe, but opted for the sedan for the AWD. We also get some record breaking puddles when it rains hard, and AWD hydroplanes less than RWD. I hate the loss of steering input when floating through even a few inches of water.

    On a freeway on-ramp yesterday at 60 mph glued to the road, I really don't think I'm missing anything. Having said that, the ti may get replaced by a 135i next year if the cash situation allows it!

    xeye

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,032
    Hi, Please delete the above photo and make it a LOT smaller. It messes up the screen width for everyone. Thanks!

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