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BMW 335i 2007+

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  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    The RPM limit you should have been adhering to during break in is far below red line.

    I'm not sure what BMW recommends, but on my 911, with a 7,200 RPM redline, you are instructed not to exceed 4,200 RPM for the first 800 miles. With my former Honda S2000, with a 9,000 RPM redline, the break in limit was 5,000 RPM. So if you floored the 335i, my guess is that it went right up to redline before shifting and about 3,000 rpm past where you should have been.

    Why don't you take a minute and look at the owner's manual?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    The break-in DNE (Do Not Exceed) recommendations for my 530i were 100 mph and 4500 rpms. I'm quite sure that the 335i and 535i recommendations are reasonably similar.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • Ok so far the answers I got for my question (Is going 135 mph with my 500 miles AUTOMATIC 335i bad for the car?) And the answers I got so far are different...some people say the car can handle it so its no harm...and some people say yes its bad for the car. Well what I got from the dealer is...if nothing happens with the car after doing that then Im fine. Well...I love my car so I dont want to do any PERMANENT damage to my car...like losing hp or something... If its no harm then of course...Im happy. If its bad for the car...can the problem be fixed or repaired with money? Or is the problem permanent? If it is then I will be so mad at myself. Please help me out with my question...thanks! >< PS: Thx for all you guys' great and helpful answers. I really appreciate it.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,387
    Please give more detail regarding the way you reached the 135 mph. Was it as fast as you could get there or did you build speed in top gear?

    Regards,
    OW
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I'd say that there's an odds on bet that you've compromised the engine's ability to properly break in, especially at the ring/cylinder wall interface, and as such you're probably going to experience somewhat higher oil consumption and a bit lower horsepower than a similar car with a properly borken in engine. Can the damage be reversed? Of course, however, I'm thinking that you're talking five figures for that kind of a repair.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,788
    "Or bounce off the rev limiter... "

    That's the way I like my manu-matics... but, I don't think many are made that way, any more.... Most of them just upshift when they get to red-line..

    As far as our original poster damaging his car? While it wasn't a very good idea to do 135, especially if you red-lined it getting up there.... I'd say the chances are slim that you did any damage... Now.. .the chances of your car having damage are exponentially greater than someone that has followed the proper break-in procedures.. But, I still think that chance is very, very small.. Don't do it again, and relax.. :)

    Not an expert... just my $0.02...

    regards,
    kyfdx
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  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    ... If its bad for the car...can the problem be fixed or repaired with money? ...

    No, I'm pretty sure it will require the correct parts. Money will either burn up or blow right out of the engine bay as soon as you start moving. :P

    Seriously, though. With the right amount of money, there's almost no limit to what can be fixed/repaired. It just comes down to whether or not it's actually worth the cost of the repairs.
  • Well I was on the freeway at night. I waited for the cars in front of me to clear up, at that time I guess Im going about 60-80. After the cars cleared up I stepped on the gas till the car cant go any faster. After I reached top speed I slowly slow down the car to normal speed. Im very careful about the breaks... BTW to the people that say if I dont red line the car then Im fine...well, I drive AUTOMATIC so that means I cant red line it, so does that mean Im ok?
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Dude, open your Owner's Manul up and check the index for "Break-in". I'm sure that you'll find that it says do not exceed 100 mph (plus or minus a few) AND do not exceed 4500 rpms. Slice it and dice it anyway you want, you exceeded both DNEs. Yes, no?

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    to the people that say if I dont red line the car then Im fine...well, I drive AUTOMATIC so that means I cant red line it, so does that mean Im ok?

    Heh...if the car has a 7000rpm red line and you go to 6800 that's red line enough for a new engine.

    I'm sure it's fine...do a compression test in a couple years and if it's good...then it's good.
  • After the cars cleared up I stepped on the gas till the car cant go any faster. After I reached top speed I slowly slow down the car to normal speed. Im very careful about the breaks... BTW to the people that say if I dont red line the car then Im fine...well, I drive AUTOMATIC so that means I cant red line it, so does that mean Im ok?

    This whole series of questions and responses is going from the sublime to the absurd. Here's what you need to do:

    (1) Read the damn owner's manual. You obviously can read, or you wouldn't be posting here. But what the heck is your problem with learning what to do or not before you do it?

    (2) Learn how to read a tachometer. You know, that round dial next to the speedometer that you appear to be infatuated with? It shows you where the redline is and what rpms you were going. Do you have any clue as to what you hit in rpms?

    (3) Keep the car below 4,500 rpm and 100 mph until you have 1,000 miles on the odometer.

    What you have done is the equivalent to eating 5 pounds of bacon in one sitting, a few times. Are you going to have a heart attack at some point? Maybe, maybe not. But it's sure not good for your ability to run a marathon. So do a little research before you act the next time rather than search the internet for anyone who will respond as to whether or not your actions caused damage.

    The dealer that told you "if nothing happens no problem" should be shot. Of course nothing will happen today if you screwed up the break in yesterday. The whole purpose of proper break in is for the long term performance and durability of the engine. And trust me, the 335i engine, with twin turbos, should be broken in properly. Screw up break in on a GM and it would be hard to tell. My M5 mechanic can drive a BMW with 50k miles and tell within a few percent what the compression is running at, before a test.

    Lastly, quit being very careful about the "breaks" while you should be worried about "breaking" your engine. That's like washing the bacon down with diet coke. BMW covers brakes in their maintenance plan. But when you're burning oil at 50,000 miles, and don't have quite the acceleration you should have, you are on your own.

    Can we move on now?
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    That's like washing the bacon down with diet coke

    And what's wrong with a Big Mac and fries, washed down with a diet coke..caffeine free of course? :blush
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Posts: 1,938
    Nothing.

    Every little bit helps.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I'm thinking we've been all the, ah, help we can in this situation and maybe it's time to cross the bridge to a new topic if you get my drift. ;)
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    335 with Dinan Flash

    "3rd Run, 331 whp and 361 lbs tq"

    Woot. Wonder about the effects on the drivetrain.
  • I just purchased a 335 coupe and was wondering if anyone has found an invisacord for the Valentine One radar detector. I used the invisacord in my 2000 Vette but don't see the BMW 335 listed on the invisacord web page. It sure is much better than having to use the standard power cord. Is anyone using something similar to invisacord in the 335?
  • mdkrpmdkrp Posts: 19
    Hi all,
    I was wondering if anyone has any experience with storing golf clubs/soft bag in the new 335 convertible with the top down using the pass through bag going through the rear seat center.
    My local dealer does not have any cars with the pass through bag option so I can't see for myself.

    Thanks for any insight.
    mdkrp
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    Will the M Sports package be available for the 335i coupe/sedan in the United States???? If anyone knows, please provide information about this.

    What is the difference between the Sports Package which is available in the states compared to the M Sports Package that is available in Europe?

    I also noticed on the bmwusa.com website that you can build your 335 with Sports Package and also add an "Appearance Package".. Do these two packages add up to be the same as the M Sports Package in Europe.

    I'd appreciate clarification on this. One thing the 335i needs is a bit more spice. Judging by pictures available on the net from Europe of the M Sports Package and the Appearance package on bmwusa.com, the exterior front bumper mod look identical, but the rear modifications look different. Also the M Sport Package boast the //M symbol on the steering wheel. I don't think the appearance package on bmwusa.com provides any Interior modifications.

    Thanks for any input on this,

    Joseph
    San Diego
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,647
    Joseph, I think you could get your answers faster at the BMW dealer. But one tihng you have to remember is, in Europe BMW cars are not as well equiped as ours. The Aerodynamic package add the front airdam from the last M car, so I would assume its just a apperance thing, the sport package is just the typical sport package that BMW has offered over the years. If you haven't driven a 335i with the sport package, you might not want anything more "sporty" as it had a very hard ride. In Europe they really love the HARD ride for some reason..
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    The M Sport "package" in Europe is basically an appearance package. It typically includes an M Sport steering wheel, other unique interior trim, and exterior aerodynamic ground-effects.

    I don't know how aerodynamic the ground-effects truly are, but you're really not missing anything from a performance standpoint.
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    I'd appreciate your thoughts.

    My 330i lease is comming up speadilly (in September) and
    over the last few years I've been contemplating the possibilities of
    what my replacement car would be. This 330i being my first BMW
    you may understand how impressed I am especially given that my previous
    cars have been the following (1990 Mitshibishi Eclypse, Mercury Sable, and Toyota Camry). Yes, I'm pretty much sold on the performance sedan/coupe
    ideal and now find that I can't settle for anything less than the performance,
    precission, and refinement of my 330i. Infact, my standards have not only improved, but it seems that a lust inside has even taken over. In typical American fashion, I want More. I want the ultimate car next time round.

    I've taken a look at the miriad of cars being offered this time around and for one reason or other have been displeased. http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08

    Here's what I believe would be a good attempt to satisfy my auto-enthusiast needs..at least for the next three years or so:

    335i
    - Sedan <- Cheaper, More Practical, Same Performance
    - Sports Package
    - Aerokit

    Or

    335i Convertible
    - Dina n ECU $2k <-- compensate extra weight
    - Dina n Oil Cooler $2k <--- for reliability reasons
    - Aerokit

    ------------------
    I figure Dinan's ECU remap would compensate for the extra weight of the Vert.
    Problem with the vert is that I fear the extra weight would significantly diminish the driving experience (road feel, feedback, handling). Any thoughts on how much of a hit the vert will toll in this regard?

    I'm not sure if I'll pick manual or steptronic. I enjoying the steptronic so much on
    my current 330i that I'm believe I'd miss it if I got the manual this time. Especially in California traffic.

    I appreciate sincere are respectful comments, suggestions, opinions..

    Thanks,

    Joseph
    San Diego
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    In my opinion, the 335i convertible with Steptronic sounds like a good choice for you. From everything I've heard, it's got a great mix of sportiness, refinement, and luxury.

    Also, if I were in your shoes, I'd pass on the Sport Package and Dinan upgrades. I don't think you need them.
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    Uh,..no

    I hope you'll enjoy your non-Sport packaged 3 series..but
    that would never do for me. Sounds like you'd be content
    with a Buick's sportiness.

    Joseph
    San Diego
    http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • nkeennkeen Posts: 316
    There's some difference between a 335i regardless of configuration, and a Buick, I think, whatever the merits of the either may be (and I think there's a place for both).
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,647
    regarding the 335i here is link for you to look at http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_335i.htm the power they can get out of that Twin Turbo engine is amazing and for the price is far better then what Dina can do for less money..

    tony
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    Thanks for the info!

    Is Vishnutuning 50 states legal? Also, will their modification void the warranty?
    Dinan doesn't void the BMW warranty I believe but is only legal in 49 states (emissions testing for California, I believe, are underway).

    Joseph
    San Diego
    my blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    "I hope you'll enjoy your non-Sport packaged 3 series..but
    that would never do for me. Sounds like you'd be content
    with a Buick's sportiness."


    Why does what I might like have anything to do with your desire for opinions/advice?

    In all of your recent posts, you discuss at length the relative merits of a number of very desirable GT cars, and you find a way to be disappointed with each and every one. In fact, your so enlightened, you didn't even have to drive them to know they suck!

    You dislike the new M3 because it has numb steering (???), is ugly, and gets poor gas mileage. Then you state that a 335i with a Dinan chip has basically the same performance as the E92 M3. OK, I have a pretty good idea of what kind of driver/enthusiast you are. Now you tell us that you currently live in San Diego and drive a slushbox equipped 330i - and you're thinking about a 335i convertible. Fine, makes sense to me. The drop top already has several strikes against it from a performance standpoint (weight, chassis integrity, slushbox, etc.) but that's OK, there's a magic $2000 computer chip will fix all that!

    You've written volumes about what an enthusiast you are, but you have never once mentioned a single handling dynamic trait. Tell me, why is the SP so important to you? Wouldn't a LSD be a better investment than an aerodynamic styling package? Maybe you think a rear lip spoiler will make a 4000 lb convertible handle as well as your current 3400 lb sedan?

    Dude, you need to put down the car magazines and go test drive some of these cars that you think suck so bad. Better yet, take a BMWCCA driving school or two and learn something about vehicle dynamics - because right now, I can almost guarantee that if you brought a Dinan 335i to the track, you'd be breathing Buick exhaust fumes all day long.
  • jmarounjmaroun Posts: 132
    I told you before,..I don't want nor need your advice.

    Move On and learn some respect. You're on ignore.

    Joseph
    San Diego
    blog: http://www.carspace.com/blogs/enthusiastsdilemma08
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,663
    Dude, you need to put down the car magazines and go test drive some of these cars that you think suck so bad. Better yet, take a BMWCCA driving school or two and learn something about vehicle dynamics - because right now, I can almost guarantee that if you brought a Dinan 335i to the track, you'd be breathing Buick exhaust fumes all day long.

    My sentiments exactly! I'd estimate that 90% of BMW drivers cannot exploit even 75% of a non-sport BMW's ability, yet they will spend several grand "improving" their new Sport Package 3er.
    "Yeah, got a 335i Sport. Dinan tune and oil cooler. Really fast. I took it up to 120 on the interstate once. I even took a 35 mph on-ramp at 50!What? Take it on the track? No way, man- I'd probably get some rock chips on the spoiler and the brake dust on the wheels would be a real pain to clean off."

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,755
    I saw a Montego Blue 335i SP on my way to work today. Sweet Color Combo.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

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