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Buying a used 5 Series

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    On an E60 some services are determined by time, some by mileage, and some by the Condition Based Service system(which calculates service based on driving conditions).
    The time based services are: Brake Fluid(every 2 years) and Coolant(every 3-4 years-even though BMW doesn't call for it)
    The mileage based services are: Spark Plugs, ATF, and Oxygen Sensors(every 100K miles for all three).
    The CBS system has 3 levels of service: Oil Service, Inspection I, and Inspection II. An Oil Service is called for at @15K intervals(or every two years, whichever comes first). It is essentially just an oil change. It costs $80-$125
    The Inspection I rolls up at around 30K; it is an oil change, a cabin air filter change, and a comprehensive inspection of the car. Figure $250-$300
    Inspection II occurs around 60K and is essentially an Inspection I + an engine air filter change. Costs average $350-$500

    If you're going to hang on to it for a while I'd advise changing the automatic transmission or gearbox oil every 50K. Change the final drive oil at 100K. I change the engine oil myself on my wife's X3 at 7.5K intervals due to the fact that the truck chews up its oil in less than 9K miles(based on used oil analysis). That's comparing apples to oranges; some people go 15K without any problem but I'm not one of them.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • LASpursLASpurs Posts: 13
    Thanks for the reply, in the end I didn't get the car as I had heard some horror stories regarding the cost of maintaining a BMW after the 50K warranty had expired!!!

    Thanks again for the help, I appreciate it :D
  • srx2870srx2870 Posts: 16
    I just got a quote from dealer for a CPO 530xi w/ prem, cold, auto and nav package. It has 35000 miles on it. The dealer asking price is 33900 and he said the most he can do is 33450. Is it a good deal?
  • mars415mars415 Posts: 2
    Well, the car that I mentioned sold a day before I got to the dealer.
    so, I ended up leasing the new 2010 535i instead of getting a used one.
    Nice car. The new idrive is responsive but got too many options..
    Hopefully, I'll get used to it.

    :)
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    Thanks for the reply, in the end I didn't get the car as I had heard some horror stories regarding the cost of maintaining a BMW after the 50K warranty had expired!!!

    Those stories are mostly second and third hand hearsay passed on by pathetic envious fools. I've owned my 1995 3 Series since new and at 115,000 miles maintenance and repairs have averaged $33/month. My wife's 2004 X3 has covered 80,000 miles and has cost $56/month to run. The only thing it has needed apart from scheduled maintenance is a four wheel brake job and a set of tires.
    It's too bad you let some jealous imbeciles cheat you out of enjoying a very fine sports sedan.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • jayriderjayrider Posts: 3,325
    If I followed the dealer recommended service for my 03 jeep liberty, the maintenence costs would average $1000 every 6 months.They have a myriad of flushes, cleanings etc. My costs average $100 per year and it runs fine. If you maintain your bmw,mercedes audi, at a skilled independent shop, your costs will not be excessive. If you give the dealer a blank check than expect to be reamed in most cases. Repairs can be stiff because parts are more expensive,but shouldn't be all that frequent.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    If you give the dealer a blank check than expect to be reamed in most cases. Repairs can be stiff because parts are more expensive,but shouldn't be all that frequent.

    That's usually the case, although I will say that my local dealer(Sam Swope, Louisville KY) has very fair pricing. They also refuse to push additional unneeded service. That said, I also use a good BMW indie shop, but often it's a toss-up as to which shop will have the better prices. I follow BMW's maintenance schedule to the letter with the exception of oil and automatic transmission fluid or gearbox/final drive oil changes. I change the oil and ATF at 1/2 of BMW's recommended interval while gearbox oil and final drive oil are changed every 30,000 miles in my track rats.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • jaydolljaydoll Posts: 120
    hi, I have a chance to buy a 2004 530i 6 speed with premium/zennons/cold weather package and 54K miles. It is a relative and it has been maintained by the book and garaged.

    Asking price is $17K

    My big fear is the electronic on this car. I remeber hearing that there were a lot of problems with the i-drive on this car being the first year of this stlye and i-drive.
    Anyone have any idea if the 04 /first year i-drive sytems are destined for failure.?

    Any other problems that I shoould know about?

    Thanks,

    Jay
  • looking at a 95 525, 126,000 miles , power everything according to the dealer, ac belt is off, but compressor turns freely. good condition, dealer has been driving it for the last 4 months, he wants 3995.00 for it, are they dependable, is this a good price? i m also looking at a 740il for 3000.00 with the same mileage as the 525. it is in excellent shape, just the maintanence costs scare me on the 740. i ve had bimmer motorcycles and i know they are rock solid. any info would help.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    The E34 5ers are pretty solid cars. Have it checked out by a good BMW tech. If the belt is off the A/C compressor you can bet something is wrong. A service history would also be nice to have. If it's a stick and it checks out I'd pay no more than $3000 for it- $2500 if it has a slushbox.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • thanks for the info, i was assuming the a/c comp is shot with the belt gone, i found another one for 1500 with more miles and a couple of little door dings, but everything works, so this one i ll check out, thanks again, matt
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    Let me know if you have any more questions; I'll be glad to help :D

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Hello Guys! I'm new to the forum and new to buying a BMW. I'm interested in buying a used 530i but have 3 options below.

    - Price $33,888, Mileage 21,800 (Premium and Sports Pkg w/ Nav) Blk/Blk
    - Price $36,900, Mileage 36,979 (Premium and Sports Pkg w/ Nav) Blk/Blk, CPO
    - Price $31,988, Mileage 48,174 (Premium and Sports Pkg w/ Nav) Blk/Blk, CPO

    Can you please let me know which one will be the best price to buy or let me know if all are over price.

    Thanks!
    :shades:
  • kevin530kevin530 Posts: 25
    Lanc, is there some reason why the first one you listed is not a CPO? I would hesitate to buy a non-CPO 2007 with 21,000 miles.
    My belief is that you really should be looking at a CPO when buying a complex machine like a 5. Mileage takes a back seat to CPO IMO and I guess there is no talking you out of the black on black???????
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    Hiya Lanc,
    I bought a 2007 530i in Alpine White with Blk leather and I love it. Had Premium, Cold, Sports, prem sound, and NAV also. Car had 24K miles on the clock, and I ended up paying $36, 200 which is less than your price on a vehicle with over 36K miles. I would get them down to $34K before going ahead with it, based on my mileage. My car was impeccable. Not a scratch on it. So, use that as your guide.

    Good luck with it.

    Hey Kevin, how are ya?
    Gardis
    gardis72@gmail.com
  • I am trying to decide between buying a 06 550i or a 2007 550i. which year is better? Are there significant differences between the two years? Both cars have been certified and have approximately 44k. Both are sport, cold package and have navigation. YES they are both manual.
  • kevin530kevin530 Posts: 25
    How much would I love a 550 but I could well end up arrested. And, I have to say that I enjoy my almost 30mpg from my 530 with more than decent power and fun ride. To me, the balance of the 530 with power and good mileage is worth it.

    Hello, Gardis. I am fine. From these posts, you seem to be having a great time with your new car. I am glad you found one that seems to be a creampuff. I still love unlocking mine.
  • rkrish1rkrish1 Posts: 1
    Guys is it a XI ? if not there might some more room for negotiation.
  • jwheel1jwheel1 Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    I am looking at a 2007 530i CPO, 30K in miles, prem/nav/sports package. Dealer is firm at 34,300. Thoughts? good price? The car is very clean with the exception of the floor mats which I am sure can be easily replaced.
  • rsf525rsf525 Posts: 1
    My 2001 525 needs a 100,000 mile inspection/maintenance. Can anyone recommend a good (honest, fair) mechanic in the San Diego area?
  • Hello,

    My first post, and also looking to own my first BMW..

    I have looked at a 2009 528i (1100 miles) with full factory warranty until May 2013. It has Premium and Cold Weather Packages, Comfort Access, Leather Power Seats with Memory and Lumbar, Sunroof, iPod and USB Adapter, Xenon Headlights, HomeLink.. This is with an independent dealer in GA, and asking for $39,500

    Looking at Edmunds.com and other sources, price seems to be within in the range, and would like to get your opinion on what would be right price for this car.

    Looks like this particular car was bought back by the BMW America, due to some minor glitch with the battery, they have replaced the battery, and everything seems to be fine.

    What do you guys think ?

    Appreciate your feedback !!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,243
    What do I think?

    I think BMW isn't going to buy back a $50K car for a battery "glitch". There had to be something seriously wrong with that car.

    I also wonder if the title has been "branded" as a manufacturer buyback. If it has, then the warranty may not be in effect. Sometimes they will do a program called "Trade Assist", because they don't have to brand the title. That preserves the warranty and the trade-in value down the road.. but I still wouldn't want it.

    I'd be very nervous about dropping $40K on a car that has already demonstrated serious problems. You can buy a loaded up '08 with a CPO extended warranty from a BMW dealer for the same money..

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  • njldannjldan Posts: 2
    Hi guys, I found a 2004 bmw 530i 60000miles asking for $16000 from a private seller. The cars condition looks great, loaded with navigation system. Is this a good deal?
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    I'm not conversant with 2004 values but '04 was the last year for the E39 which IMO is more of a real BMW than the gadget mobile E60. A lightly used one might be a good deal @ $16k.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Hi kyfdx,

    Thanks for your input, much appreciated..

    Is there any way to determine, what kind of issues got the BMW to buy back that vehicle ?

    I'm certainly going to pass on this car.. (If it's too good to be true, then it probably is...)

    Thanks,
    Sam.
  • kennyyukennyyu Posts: 16
    hi folks, i,m consideing a 2003 530i with less than 20k miles..listed at 20k with sport premium nav, the works..i think 18k is fair even with this low miles. any thoughts? ...
    p.s. i hate the new body style that came out in 2004.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I'm thinking that you missed the model year of the change over by one. The 2003 model year was the last of the E39, and 2004 was the begininning of the E60 run. ;)

    Best regards,
    Shipo
  • gardisgardis Posts: 185
    Kevin
    that is some good gas mileage. I am getting 20-21mpg city driving consistent, which is what they say I should be getting. More if I'm on the highway. How on earth do you get 30mpg? That has to be all highway driving, I'm thinking.

    Has anyone configured the central locking system so that after you start the engine, the doors do NOT lock when you are inside the car? I'm thinking if I go to a car wash, the doors will lock after I get out, and I won't be able to get back in? I saw in the manual where you can change that. Anyone else had this problem?
  • njldannjldan Posts: 2
    It is a 2006 525xi with manual transmission. It has 34000miles on the clock. The carfax report is clean. The dealer asked for $25000, and I offered $22000 and I expect a counter offer. But the offer was accepted. Now I am hesitated for such a quick acceptance. Is my offer too high or is there anything wrong with car?
  • even my 8,12,13 year olds think dad's car is pimping!. E39 rules!!!
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