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Mazda CX-7 vs. Nissan Murano

SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
Plenty of people are comparing the two - are you? Thoughts?
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  • I think the CX-7 is a clone/copy of the Murano from the outside. Compare a CX-7 with a Murano S (no roof rails), and they are almost identical. Dimensions are a bit smaller tho - be interested in a test/comparison in the future.

    Not sure about the turbo 4cyl - think they would have been better off with a V6...
  • ctxctx Posts: 50
    I posted this in another thread but here is my take on some of it:


    1. Price - Based on MSRP, the CX-7 is 5 grand less than the comparably equipped Murano. Murano is 36909 with Touring pkg, Navigation and Dynamic Stability Control, CX-7 is 31,040 – same options. I do realize the Murano probably will not sell at MSRP.. obviously no data on the CX-7.
    2. Warranty – CX-7 is 48 mo/50K miles. Murano is 36 mo/36K miles.
    3. Transmission – I’m not a huge fan of CVT so CX-7 wins (for now.. need to test drive the CX-7..)
    4. Time on market – Murano wins here. Had plenty of time to work the kinks out. I know how the first years are..
    5. Looks – I’m tending towards the Murano.

    JMHO! :shades:
  • maximafanmaximafan Posts: 592
    After checking the specs of both vehicles on
    the respective websites and brochures, the
    Murano appears to be an all around larger
    vehicle with more towing capacity than the
    CX-7. For example:
    Towing Cap.: Murano - 3500 lbs.
    CX-7 - 2000 lbs.
    Overall length: Murano - 187.6
    CX-7 - 184.1
    Width: Murano - 74.8
    CX-7 - 73.7
    Cargo Volume - seats down -
    Murano - 81.6 cu.ft.
    CX-7 - 58.6
    Fuel tank (Gals.): Murano - 21.7
    CX-7 - 18.27
    Fuel Economy: Murano(AWD)- 19/24
    CX-7(AWD)- 18/24

    Just a sampling of some of the specs.
    Interesting, huh?
  • Murano is bigger - it shows in the difference in the cargo volume.

    I am surprised that the towing for the CX-7 is only 2000lbs - It has similar torque to the Murano VQ engine. Must be something with the transmission and the Turbo-4cyl or the frame design.
  • russ_49russ_49 Posts: 54
    I must be in my mid-life crisis mode, but I own a 05 Tribute V-6 with a towing package which I will be hanging on to, my wife drives it, so I have no intention of towing anything with this. As a matter of fact, I told my dealer that I didn't want the towing package on mine when I placed my order.

    This is a fun, sporty CUV, in line with the Beemer for quality, fit, finish, and substantially less money. All preliminary reviews suggest that Mazda hit the mark with this one, and I can't wait. My dealer has told me to expect delivery of mine, sometime the beginnig of May. I was able to get my order placed in the dealerships second series of orders with Mazda. CX-7, Grand Touring, with NAV package, BOSE, AWD, and copper red!! ;)
  • richmlrichml Posts: 156
    I live at the Jersey Shore - lots of SUVs on the roads, including many Muranos. I've never seen one Murano towing anything.

    I don't think towing is a big consideration to many people who buy vehicles in this segment - Murano, CX-7, MDX, etc.
  • dmakodmako Posts: 5
    I am a Murano owner and will test drive a CX-7 when they come out. All I can say is the Murano will/is hard to beat in my opinion.

    I am tall and nothing, nothing comes close to how comfortable the Murano is. Sat in a 2006 RAV4 this past Sat. Didn't even want to test drive it, no leg room for me.

    I have plenty of room in the murano, and can fit two dog crates side by side in the back for my hunting dogs. It drives smooth as silk (CVT) and the six is nice, not too sure about turbos, had a turbo VW Sirocco (Callaway) years ago. I know they've improved but still losts of heat and pressure.
  • richmlrichml Posts: 156
    Mazda is emphasizing sportiness and "fun to drive" for their new vehicles. I don't think a CVT fits that image.
  • dmakodmako Posts: 5
    As far as the CVT go, try it. VERY sporty, it keeps the RPM at prime level throughout the total band.

    i.e. no shifts to slow you down. thats why the Murano from 30-60 is as fast a a FX/45 with a V8! Granted a bit slow off the line but it is a heavy vehicle, but the mid range (the sweet spot for me) 30 - 80 is very sporty. Try one on D)rive and in S)port mode. It's like a sling shot.

    4 or 5 speed auto sporty? maybe a stick, thats why everyone is moving from 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 speed autos. Heck the CVT is about an 11 speed.
  • maximafanmaximafan Posts: 592
    I agree with you on the Murano's acceleration. I got to spend four days with an
    S Model as a rental. Took it to the Florida
    Keys to visit family. It's not as quick as
    my Maxima off the line, but it does appear to
    be quite zippy between 30 and 60 mph. Took
    three adults and my 10 year old nephew to
    Everglades National Park in the Murano and
    everyone was impressed with how roomy the car
    was, as it does not look that large on the
    outside. I'm strongly considering this car
    when my lease is up, unless I can get a decent
    deal on a Lexus RX350 (Yeah, I'm dreaming!)
  • CVT is smooth.. there is a bit of hesitation to start off, but once you stomp it, it hits the 6000 RPM fast and it zooms... now I sound like a Mazda commercial LOL...
  • I am really close to buyng a 06 Murano.
    But I like the idea of spending less and getting more on the CX AND getting a car that won't be replaced by a new design (like the Murano, since its been pretty much unchanged for 4 years)

    First year models are scary for quality, and I dont want to wait until May and pay sticker (Murano's are selling below invoice with 3% financing now)...so I'm leaning towards just buying a murano.

    Unless somene can convince me to wait for it. :-)
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Unless somene can convince me to wait for it.

    I would say at least wait until the CX-7 comes out, and you test drive it.

    Nissan has had a decent reliability record. As for the CX-7, the engine has been out for a little while now. They did run into a little glitch with a possible heat soak problem, witch could possibly be linked to poor engine compartment air circulation and too much boost on the Mazdaspeed6. The CX-7 has less HP, I'm assuming less boost, and with an SUV, it should be easier for air to circulate in the engine compartment. Therefore, no heat soak problem. Hopefully. Other then that, Mazda rates better as a company in overall quality and reliability Vs. Nissan, according to Consumer Reports.

    The other plus to the CX-7 is that it is new, and the Murano design is a few years old. If you are one who likes to have something that no one has, it could be worth the wait.

    On buying one at sticker price. I can't see that lasting too long. The public only put's up with that for so long. And, I believe the CX-7 is a bit cheaper to begin with. But, not by much.
  • ctxctx Posts: 50
    I would agree with the previous poster and wait for a test drive! Another point is the CX-7 has a 4 yr/48K warranty.. the Murano has 3 yr/36K.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Off the top of my head I can think of a few areas in which the CX-7 tops the Murano..

    std 6 speed trans
    std dynamic stability control
    std traction control
    std tire pressure monitoring system
    longer standard cargo area
    no cost roadside assistance
    available advanced keyless entry and start system
    more torque
    The Murano is a little bigger overall and a little bit hevier...but it's amazing how well they stack up agaisnt each other...

    The ride and drive will probably be the deciding factor for most folks...
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    Another point is the CX-7 has a 4 yr/48K warranty.. the Murano has 3 yr/36K.

    For 2007 Mazda is changing their warranty to be similar to their competators. 3/36 bumper to bumper and 5/60K on powertrain. Roadsides assist stays.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    audi is correct, Mazda will be reducing their warranty to be similar to their competitors for the 2007 model year. The CX-7 will be the first to have the 3/36 and 5/60 warranty.
  • dmakodmako Posts: 5
    Yes a test drive would be in order I'm planning on one and I own a MuranO.

    Size would be a factor for me both in front/rear seat space as well as cargo. The reviews so far seem to indicate a very small rear seating area and cargo space. Fine if you have just two people. But I need and want to be able to say pick up a sheet of plywood. The Murano is perfect handle like a sports cars, and hauls like a SUV.

    Sorry get carried away, the Murano is that good.

    The Murano has a lot going for it, and right now I'd go for a 06/07 if I retire my 03.
  • richmlrichml Posts: 156
    The online New York Times site has their annual Q&A with car industry folks in conjunction with the NY Auto Show.

    Eleven automotive industry insiders were interviewed, ground rules were they couldn't discuss their own products.

    There were good comments about the CX-7 and the Kabura concept, the only Nissan comments were about the Urge - the Mazda2 competition.
  • Actually the Murano comes with the keyless entry/ignition too if you pop for the Touring package.

    I decided to go with the Murano mainly because I couldn't wait and the whole first production year issues (like reliability lack of discounts)

    I bought a SL FWD with Touring and Navigation last week.
    I'm lovin it!
  • lilarrylilarry Posts: 13
    I had my eye on the Murano for a while. I test drove it and liked the performance very much - including the CVT. But the CX-7 has been intriguing me. So I went to the New York Auto Show Sunday to compare the two (and a few other CUVs). I went back and forth from the CX-7 to the Murano (not easy since the CX-7 was upstairs and the Muranos downstairs). Here’s what I found:

    Seating position and driver comfort: CX-7 hands down. Perfect! I just can’t get completely comfortable in the Murano’s seat.

    Dash: CX-7 wins again. It’s perfectly laid out and definitely cool. The Murano dash pod looks like an out-of-place plastic toy

    Looks: The Murano is a great looking vehicle, but I like the CX-7 better. And they don’t really look all that much alike.

    Cargo Space: The Murano wins all the way. Don’t buy a CX-7 if you plan on hauling much with the rear seats up - or even down.

    Rear Seating: Murano wins. CX-7 rear seating is sparse by comparison. The Murano’s rear seats even recline!

    Quality/Feel – Externally they seem about equal. Inside, The CX-7 feels solid and of high quality in the driver and front passenger areas. Rear seat and cargo areas seem cheap and flimsy. The Murano seems the reverse: Cargo and rear seating high quality, driver and front passenger areas cheap and flimsy – especially the dash and center console storage area. Go figure!

    I have to say, after the auto show I am definitely less interested in the Murano and more interested in the CX-7. Of course, a test drive will still be required.
  • ctxctx Posts: 50
    I'm with you. I'm a long time Mazda fan but went with Murano due to a. time on market, b. cargo space, c. awesome to drive and d. awesome discounts.

    Love my new Platinum Touring pkg. For the short term, I suspect I paid slightly less than MSRP on a similiarly equipt CX-7.. but who cares? I love my new car.

    p.s. I traded from a Miata. Go figure :)
  • lilarrylilarry Posts: 13
    Forgot a few of things:

    Memory Power Driver's Seat: Murano has it, CX-7 doesn't.

    Power Passenger Seat: Murano has it, CX-7 doesn't.

    Dual Climate Control: Murano has it, CX-7 doesn't.

    Roof Rack: Murano has it, CX-7 doesn't.

    Towing Capacity: Murano tows 3500lbs - enough for a 19 foot boat with capacity to spare. CX-7 tows 2000lbs - enough for a jet ski or maybe two.

    Premium Bose Stereo Systems: Both the CX-7 and Murano have premium sound from Bose. But the Murano's subwoofer is attached to the spare tire and must be removed to get to the spare ... and it sounds like its in a garbage can. I can't believe that was the best Nissan/Bose could do! They should be ashamed of that one. I didn't get to hear the CX-7 stereo but, looking it over it is certainly designed better, with 9 speakers including dual subwoofers in the doors and plenty of power. (I can tell you that the basic stock stereo in the Mazda 3 blows the doors off the Murano's Bose premium)

    Sirius or XM: CX-7-Sirius only. Murano gives you your choice of either. Neither gives you HD radio (which would be my choice).

    Smart Key - Murano's is more like the usual key fob we are used to. CX-7 is more like a fat credit card - fits better in a shirt pocket.

    Hmmm - The Murano may be starting to look better again - just a little though..
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Roof Rack: Murano has it, CX-7 doesn't.

    You can get the following as an accessories from Mazda for the CX-7:

    Bike carrier, roof rack mounted.
    Cargo box, roof mounted
    Ski/snowboard rack, roof mounted.
    Roof luggage basket
  • One feature that my wife loved about our 2006 MO is the adjustable pedals, in which I don't know of any other import SUV that has it.
  • disladisla Posts: 55
    My answer to the above comparison:
    I disagree that Murano's dashboard layout and front seat position lose to Mazda. First of all, Murano uses much better materials, such as real aluminum and chrome on door handles and shifter. In comparison, Mazda's interior is made completely out of VERY CHEAP hard plastic. Furthermore, everyone seems to have forgotten about great Murano's graphic interface on the STANDARD 7in-LCD, that, by the way, also offers a rear view camera as a part of its Touring Package. Mazda doesn't have any of it available. I love Murano's graphics, when using 6-in-dash mp3 changer, as well as settings menu that lets you adjust pretty much all of the computer-controlled options.
    I recently leased my second Murano, first being a 2003 one, as I saw no alternative to it in this class and price range.
    and yeah, Mazda has a MUCH smaller interior AND cargo room!
  • ctxctx Posts: 50
    While I am with you (love the Murano)would like to point out that Standard LCD/back-up cam comes with every model of Murano (not just with Touring pkg). Also CX-7 does offer LCD but back-up cam only with the Technology package which is a 4K adder.
  • syadastisyadasti Posts: 24
    But the CX7 is cheaper when similarly equipped, handles/brakes better (read: blows the Murano away in slalom and 60-0 braking numbers), better ergonomics, and IMHO nicer looking interior and exterior.

    From the Edmunds.com performance test database:

    Mazda CX-7
    60-0 braking: 112.9 ft !!
    Slalom: 64.3 mph !
    0-60 acc 7.7 s
    quarter 15.9 s

    Nissan Murano
    60-0 Braking 123.6 ft
    Slalom 60.7 mph
    0-60 acc 8.2 s
    quarter 16.2 s

    No contest, Murano has minivan performance compared to a CX-7 ;)
  • disladisla Posts: 55
    well, it's much smaller and lighter, too.
  • rennie4rennie4 Posts: 52
    0-60 mph 7.4s
    0-100 mph 21.8s
    1/4 Mile 15.7 s @ 88 mph
    Top Speed 116 mph
    Gas Mileage 20 MPG City / 25 MPG Highway

    The performance of the mazda are not gonna sway me away from the murano. The muranos numbers are not that far behind for me to stray away from a better all around vehicle.
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