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Acura TL Transmission Questions



  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Looks like your only option is small claims court :mad:
  • Well I think there is room for a just compromise here. If Acura picks up the parts for the clutch and the labor to install, and you pick up the price of re-surfacing or replacing the flywheel, that probably puts responsibility where it belongs on both parties. (by allowing the clutch to continue to slip after being aware that it wasn't operating properly, you may have caused the flywheel damage).

    If they go for that deal, I'd take it if I were you.

    As an analogy, let's say your new car busted a radiator because it was defective, but that you decided to drive the car without coolant for 50 miles to get home. That might make you responsible for the engine damage, but not for the radiator.

    I'm not trying to blame you for anything, only trying to analyze what you've told me from a distance.

    TIP: If you offer a very reasonable compromise to the dealer, and accept a percentage of responsibility, and they refuse this compromise, this looks very good for you in Small Claims, IMO.

    Of course, you must be careful that they don't say "Sure we'll compromise" and then charge you $2,000 for a flywheel. :P
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Great advice Pat, I jumped gun abit :blush:
  • ahidahid Posts: 2
    Thanks for the reply.
    The Service department initially thought it was a transmission issue and they gave me the earliest appointment available. They did not ask me to stop driving the vehicle. They determined it to be the Clutch only after they ran a complete diagnosis and further determine burn to the flywheel and clutch wear only after tear down.
  • Well I'm only pointing out what you are going to hear about this issue, so you might as well be prepared to answer it.
  • jajjaj Posts: 55
    I don't think ahid should have to pay a penny of this repair. It's clearly a manufacturer's defect and should be covered under waranty. I suggest continuing up the ladder at Acura until the matter is resolved thusly.

    Reading something like this makes me have second thoughts about considering purchase of an Acura - very disappointing. Good luck.

  • dperisdperis Posts: 6
    Has anyone else noted that at low speeds the automatic transmission on the TL will "gear search" rather roughly? I've not experienced being whipped around so much by other automatic transmissions. Is this possibly a legacy of the earlier transmission problems the TL had? And can the computer be adjusted to make the shifting a little smoother below 20mph?
  • jkm900jkm900 Posts: 18
    I just bought a Carbon Bronze '07 TL two saturdays ago after driving a 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee. What a difference! But since I have never driven a Honda/Acura I was curious about the transmission. I have noticed that when I go to brake at a stoplight the transmission downshifts and actually causes the car to brake harder (due to the engine braking) than I am pressing on the pedal.

    Is this normal for an Acura? The dealer said it was completely normal and that it was a sportier car/transmission which is why it does that. Any help would be much appreciated!
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    Others have hypothesized that it is the grade logic control mechanism in the tranny. Hope this helps.
  • carteachcarteach Posts: 179
    I have an '06 TL with 9,000 miles on it. I'm finding that the ride is not smooth... that is: I'm very aware of the car shifting and I feel the transition from one gear to the other takes a while... and that the car seems to down shift when it's in fifth even though i'm on the highway.

    Is this normal? I don't remember this happening when I first got the car.

    Also... don't know whether this is relevant. But I feel a vibration in the gas pedal a lot of the time. Is this normal?

    Thanks for any advice you can give me.
  • I've owned my Acura TLS since new. I've been having problems the past year with the way the car accelerates and thought it needed a tune-up. I had an engine mount replaced, but still the problem continued. Took the car in again and found out it needs a new transmission. Fortunately, Honda had provided an extended warranty on the transmission and I will get a new one free of charge. That was a very pleasant surprise...
  • I had an'03 TLS which had a "bucking" problem. When I was merging onto the highway, particularly in the morning, it would "buck" (50-55 mph). Very short lived and then it was fine. I bet it was the tranny, traded it in before I had any major problems.
  • asv77asv77 Posts: 1
    I have gone through 3 transmissions on my 2000 TL. The last repair is now out of warranty. My question is that will transmission out of a 2004 TL fit my car. They use the same engine codes? I have found a used one with 14,000 miles on it for a reasonably good price. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    That was a very pleasant surprise...

    You might not be as pleasantly surprised when the replacement breaks and the next one is on you.

    I keep hearing that the rate of transmission failure of pre-2004 transmissions on the TL is "only 2%+/-". But anecdotally, of the dozen or so people we know that have TL's and/or pre 2005 MDX's, at least 3 or 4 have had at least one transmssion replacment and 2 have had 2 or more. One poor soul went through 2 failures on their their MDX and one on their TL, with the last MDX failure stranding his pregnant wife on the way to thier vacation house for 5 hours before Acura Roadside Assistance showed up. They have since sold both vehicles and have permanantly sworn off Acuras.

    We own a 2004 TL 6-speed manual, the ONLY TL transmission I would ever own or recommend, even in a 2004+, both from a reliability standpoint and performance. Acura's "slushbox" automatics are clearly the weakest link in otherwise decent cars. Our 2005 MDX supposedly has a redesigned transmssion, but as it approaches the end of its warranty period, I am weighing the cost of an extended warranty with just trading it in. If the MDX came with a 6-speed manual, my wife would have me trade tomorrow.

    In my opinion, anyone with a TL/MDX automatic transmssion out of warranty is playing Russian Roulette.

    P.S. asv77 - rather than try to put a 2004+ automatic transmission in a 2000 TL, I would seriously consider selling the car. I know that wall is seriously dented from beating your head against it with 3 replacement transmssions, but why keep trying to knock it down? People go through less grief trying to keep a 1960's Ferrari running.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,480
    In my opinion, anyone with a TL/MDX automatic transmssion car out of warranty is playing Russian Roulette.

    Just some brands have more bullets in the magazine... :sick:

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I'd partly agree with you, but one rarely hears of major mechanical malfunctions with Acura's relative to the engines, suspension, etc. The automatic transmission is clearly one of the biggest bullets in their magazine. All the electronic toys are probably little bullets as well, given that our MDX has had the Nav unit replaced twice in under 3 years and 40k miles.

    On the other hand my 1995 Nissan Maxima at 155k miles has still yet to have any mechancical issues that go beyond what I would consider routine or long term maintenance.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,480
    Oh, I agree (and hope that you are correct re: rare major Acura malfunctions!). I was just broadly noting that any car out of warranty is a potential repair invoice waiting to be paid... Odds are just, for example, more likely that an expensive repair will be required by a 6 year old MB C class vs. a Honda Accord.

    I have the Non-nav TL so I probably have fewer bullets loaded. My bro's MDX has given him no issues that I'm aware of. Nor has my Dad's Nav TL.


    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • I have noticed that since last week or so whenever I start my car, it shows the time of 1:00 and then in few seconds it resets to current time.

    Also, today after it reset the time, ABS, Brake and VSA lights did not go off.

    When I stopped and restarted the car, those lights went off.

    Any pointers? Thanks in advance for your help!
  • shefshef Posts: 1
    I think I just dropped the transmission on my 1998 TL with 180k on it. Any ideas on what I may be in for with a repair bill?
  • dlw815dlw815 Posts: 1
    I bought a pre-owned 2002TLS with 78,000. Three months later, the transmission went out and the dealer replaced it no questions asked. At this time, no one mentioned anything about the class action lawsuit that was filed against Honda/Acura for bad transmissions. Not long after the 2nd transmission was installed, my TL started jerking while driving at different speeds, as the transmission would slip in and out of gears. The check engine and VSA sensor lights would come on as the car continued to run very rough. The transmission continued to downshift on it's own for months.

    Next comes the legal notice in the mail about the class action lawsuit shortly before my TL's warranty was about to end. Soon thereafter, I took my TL to the Acura dealer (who's name I won't mention), and their mechanic ended up erasing ALL THE CODES FROM MY COMPUTER. Then he said, "we'll give you a 3rd transmission as long as you pay for the labor since you're 1000 miles passed the warranty". I refused his offer. This was the start of multiple problems and a lot of unnecessary stress in my life. You're right about the "Russian Roullete" comment.

    After reporting the dealer to the DMV for investigation, I find out they can (and are) selling these TL's with the poor/dangerous transmissions without a "legal disclosure". Unbelievable! And the only legal recourse the consumer has is to either hire a lawyer to sue for fraud or take them to small claims court. I've chosen the latter and also sworn never to buy another Acura again. Their not worth the money. :mad: :sick: :lemon:
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