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2007 Mazda CX-9

navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
The Mazda CX-9 is a seven passenger crossover SUV that will be larger than the CX-7. It will be introduced at the New York Auto Show, and is specifically designed for North America.

It will be powered by a 3.5L V6, which is I believe the engine used in the Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX. The engine is hooked up to a six speed automatic transmission.

This will replace the MPV as Mazda's people mover. The styling is great and will draw many people to Mazda. It is due to be released in the fall I believe.

Here's the one and only image of the CX-9.

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Comments

  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I was right!! I said in a few other posts that this car will debut at the NY Auto show this month. Simply because it is a NA market only, and the MX-crossport (CX-7) debuted at this show last year. I'm going to the Auto show, so I will take some pic's and post them here.

    Press release is available at www.mazdaUSA.com
  • brutus22brutus22 Posts: 122
    image
    Courtesy of Marathonrally
    Looks great...I would like to see it in some other colors other then blue tho'

    B.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    Looks better than an RX350, I'll give 'em that.
  • brutus22brutus22 Posts: 122
    Even more pictures that someone posted here, includes interior:
    http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa?forumID=31&threadID=31196&tstart=0

    I am sold.

    B.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Looks very elegant. Very modern and upscale. Mazda did a good job.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    I used the photo of the CX-9 and CX-7 together to determine the approximate dimensions of the CX-9. Looks like it is about 203 inches long and 65 inches high, which are exactly the dimensions of an MB R-Class. It looks better than an R-Class to my eyes. I'm impressed.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    I guess my scaling of the dimensions was a little off. The CX-9 is actually about 200 inches long and 68 inches high, according to specs given in worldcarfans.com. This would make it very close in size to an Audi Q7, except the Q7 is about 2 inches wider.
  • brutus22brutus22 Posts: 122
    Hey Guys,

    Mazda USA has a bunch of pics:
    http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=upcomingCX9

    Great interior shot of front:
    image

    Back showing 3rd row:
    image

    Interesting things they note:
    250hp with 240 lbs tq.

    wheelbase 113.2 inches...for comparison the Honda Pilot is 106.3, while a Honda Odyssey is 118.1, and the Subaru B9 is 108.2.
    This would suggest some solid room inside, without truly knowing the cargo volume.

    B.">
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    For some reason the mazdausa site does not show the length, which is 199.6 inches. All of the dimensions of the CX-9 are quite close to those of a Sienna. This certainly suggests a lot of interior room, although the Sienna has a lot more cargo volume behind the third row.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I think the CX-9 has some similarities to the B9 Tribeca. The body shape, excluding the front and rear facias. Wheels are similar. If in not mistaken, CX-9 is larger, and can offer more in interior room then the Tribeca. I know first hand how the 3rd seat in the Tribeca is almost useless, unless you are a child. It will be interesting to see how useful the 3rd seat is in the CX-9.

    I am a Mazda, Subaru, and Ford dealer. We plan on placing the CX-9 next to the Tribeca to see how they stack up. I hear early 2007 we will see this vehicle?
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    It looks to me like the CX-9 will have a lot of advantages over a B9 Tribeca, like nicer styling, larger size, more power, and more features, such as a power tailgate. But it probably costs more, too.
  • ebbyebby Posts: 23
    I have a little spreadsheet for calculating 0-60s and it works pretty well. Based on my calcs, if Mazda had thrown in the 2.3 turbo in the Mazdaspeed 6 (274 hp/280-lb-ft) the CX-9 will do 0-60s in 7.2s. However with the next gen 3.5V6 rated at 250 hp (torque unknown at this time), my calcs estimates 0-60s near or below 8 secs. The calcs assumes 4200 lbs curb weight for the CX-9 (CX-7 weighs 3939 lbs).
  • ebbyebby Posts: 23
    BTW: with the already known power/torque and curbweight for the CX-7 (244 hp, 258 lb-ft), estimated 0-60 mph is 7.4s. I am awaiting any road test to confirm this. Most likely the CX-9 will be slower to 60 mph than the CX-7 since it is going to use the new 3.5V6 duratec rated at 250 hp and a tad heavier.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    The word is that the Duratec now will be rated at 265 HP. On the flip side, I would be very surprised if the CX-9 weighs as little as 4200 lb. I'd guess 4400-4500 (with AWD). (A Chrysler Pacifica is a similar sized vehicle, and an AWD Limited model weighs almost 4800 lb.) If the CX-9 achieves 8 seconds 0-60, that would be respectable.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    CX-9 has the same power (250hp) as the B9 Tribeca. But, the CX-9's motor is bigger. 3.5L to 3.0L
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Does the third row look a little tight, or is it just me?
  • ebbyebby Posts: 23
    I just saw an update on the CX-9 power ratings (250 hp/240 lb-ft). The estimated 0-60s is now 8.4s if it weighs 4500 lbs. That is similar to Honda Pilot and does not really stand out. The CX-7 will obviously be faster than the CX-9 with the turbo engine. My only worry about the turbo engine is refinement. Most four cylinder engines over 2.0L are trashy and coarse.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    I see where a Mazda spokesman said that the CX-9 is intended to compete with the Honda Pilot. It certainly looks like a more upscale vehicle than the Pilot--more like an MDX competitor. If it is priced like the Pilot, the CX-9 should be a big success.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    My only worry about the turbo engine is refinement. Most four cylinder engines over 2.0L are trashy and coarse.

    Hop into the Mazdaspeed6 and you will see how refined the MZR 2.3L DISI Turbo is. It is based off of the refined Mazda3 MZR 2.3. I don't think refinement in the CX-7 will be an issue.

    I am wondering how refined the new 3.5L is, though. I was supposed to go to the Auto Show today, but, I had to go to work :mad:
  • ebbyebby Posts: 23
    I was going to test drive the CX-7 partly to hear-out the engine refinement. The 3.0 duratec V6 from Ford/Mazda was not as refined as equivalents from Accord/Camry. I had a '04 Mazda6 3.0V6 that I traded in after 4 months because I could not live with the engine, even the car had good driving dynamics. My 2003 Honda 2.4 iVtec was more refined than the 3.0 V6 and had better performance with the manual trans. I am beginging to think the CX-7 may be my next take from Mazda.
  • rooskierooskie Posts: 26
    The "Inside Line" says pricing on the CX-9 will be $38K and up.

    Huh?

    I hope that's a misprint. Mazda says it's primary competition is the Pilot and Highlander - neither of which have a base price anywhere near $38K . They're dreaming.
  • crikeycrikey Posts: 1,038
    According to Autoblog, the 3.5L Duratec V6 has officially been SAE rated at 265 hp on 87-octane regular grade fuel. It might be capable of producing more power once direction injection and/or turbocharging is implemented.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    The "Inside Line" says pricing on the CX-9 will be $38K and up.


    You have to take that with a grain of salt. Even though this site is accurate about a lot of issues, they are often wrong as well. They have writers that speculate based on information from sources, or whatever their fact-finding let them to. That does not mean it is always 100%accurate.

    When you are dealing with a vehicle that we will not see for quite sometime, it becomes even harder to speculate accurate pricing, when it will be in showroom's and what "real" performance numbers will be. Heck, sometimes the manufacturer does not even know!
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    There is no reason for a manufacturer to know what the pricing will be for a vehicle that is 9 months from introduction. But if Mazda says that their target vehicle is a Pilot, then we can reasonably assume that the CX-9 will be priced like a Pilot. However, since Mazda doesn't have a luxury brand like Acura it is also reasonable to assume that top-of-the-line CX-9s will be priced at the low end of MDX pricing. Bottom line: a base model just under $30K, a figure that I have seen somewhere, and a fully loaded model about $40K. This is new pricing territory for Mazda, so they will be careful to not price it too high (think the Pacifica launch).
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Mazda is not known for launching vehicles very well. Let's take a look at recent launches:

    1. Mazda5...no commercials until February, and this vehicle was introduced in August, no special financing, terrible introductary lease.

    2. Mazdaspeed6...only one commercial to date,and it did not do the car any justice. Car took way too long to come over here, by the time it did, they "hype" was all but gone.

    3. MX-5...This was a decent launch. Car came out right when they said it would. Sales have been very satisfying to date.

    4. CX-7...This car was supposed to be here in March/early April at the latest. We are not receiveing our first one until June. We will have to wait and see how they promote this on TV.

    5. CX-9..we now know this car is coming. How long until we get it? Who knows. How long will potential buyers wait for this vehicle? If Mazda takes too long, will they lose potential buyers? All is yet to be seen.

    I love the Mazda product, and love how Mazda's drive. I also work for a Mazda dealer. I just wish they were a bit better with new vehicle launches!
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    This is new pricing territory for Mazda, so they will be careful to not price it too high (think the Pacifica launch).

    Well technically, the 929 was priced in higher end of 30k. Although that was long ago, picture the millenia in 2002. It was priced in the 30k's also. The pacifica's pricing is soooo high because it was an all new platform (personally what i call the founder of the M-B r class). I don't think is a matter of price but a matter of paying for the name. Several vehicles are priced to high but people buy them anyway. :) In the case of this cx9 it should be priced at 27k :shades:
  • jason330ijason330i Posts: 35
    given the reports of the size of the cx7 (too small), the cx9 looks like a possible future suv for me.

    i wonder what the mpg will be for the cx9...

    also, can't wait to compare the cx9 vs honda pilot vs new toyota highlander.

    :)
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    CX-9 wallpaper available at desktopmachine.com. These wallpaper really let me admire the style in both the CX-7 and CX-9.

    Jason330i, I would also add the new Hyundai Santa Fe and Saturn Outlook on the list of vehicles to consider.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Posts: 792
    Does anyone know how much the CX-9 will weigh? The Staurn Outlook seems nice to me on paper until I noticed the very high weight. The new 3.5 V6 with 265 HP, 250 Ft. Lbs., and the new 6-speed automatic will be very nice, but not if the thing weighs 4,500 to 5,000 Lbs.
  • brutus22brutus22 Posts: 122
    Hey,

    So I stumbled upon the Fordedge.org website and they posted some interesting info on the Engine... now as I understand the CX-9 will have the same engine, so these numbers should right arouund what we should expect.
    Powertrain:
    3.5L V6 Duratec Engine
    265HP

    Fuel Efficiency
    city: 19 mpg
    highway: 25 mpg
    combined: 22 mpg

    But these are prelim numbers only, but I think the original CX-9 info said something like 250HP. I just want to see the Fuel Efficiency be better, more like 20/28.

    Have not heard anything new since the auto show tho'.

    B.
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