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Mercury Milan vs Toyota Camry

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  • I attend sometime classic car events and found out
    Mercury interiors from 60s to be pretty cool compared with Ford - looking like futuristic spaceship kind of cockpit.
  • ch3456ch3456 Posts: 4
    Personally, I don't put much faith into American cars, with the exception of some GM vehicles.

    Mercury Milan is just a Ford Focus with a different name badge. Just like Taurus and Sable were. They were both discontinued. Hmm.

    I'm a big fan of Camry myself. It has a good reputation and is getting better each year. I'd be too scared to try a brand new car (unless it's like Sable... which I admit was a pretty decent car for the older folks! ;) )
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,691
    Of course the Milan is just a Fusion with different styling. Think of it as a trim package. It exists to keep the Lincoln Mercury dealers in business but it also gives the consumer an alternative to the Fusion styling.

    And if you think the Camry is getting better then you haven't been paying attention.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    I think the ride is different, a bit softer in the mercury vs. Fusion. The steering feel is also much lighter in the mercury.

    At least those were my impressions from test drives.

    I am not sure why, but the seats also feel different to me.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    "Personally, I don't put much faith into American cars, with the exception of some GM vehicles.

    Mercury Milan is just a Ford Focus with a different name badge. Just like Taurus and Sable were. They were both discontinued. Hmm.

    I'm a big fan of Camry myself. It has a good reputation and is getting better each year. I'd be too scared to try a brand new car (unless it's like Sable... which I admit was a pretty decent car for the older folks! )"

    LOL! Please come into the new millenium. Car reliabitliy is up, way up across the board. Get out on the internet and do the research yourself. Sounds to me like your relying soley on the media and PAST bashing of Ford/GM products. Toyota has had its share of problems also. Get out on the net they are there. I guess you didn't hear about the introduction slip of the Camry and its transmission issues huh? The media has had a hayday with Ford/GM in the last 10-20 years, bashing and bashing away. When Toyota/Honda have an issue, you don't hear about it. Now, don't get me wrong, Ford/GM have had some quality issues in the PAST and the media isn't soley to blame. But the bias is rampant.
    Take look at the reliability ratings over at MSN.com in their auto section. You will be pretty surprised on how reliable the Taurus/Sable actually are. Research before you come into a room claiming Ford/GM are still unreliable. ;)
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    Mercury Milan is just a Ford Focus with a different name badge. Just like Taurus and Sable were. They were both discontinued. Hmm.

    I think the Millan is based off the Mazda 6 platform not the Focus...which will be based of the Mazda 3 soon (think it already is in the European Focus)

    I don't think there was any platform sharing between the old Taurus/Sable and the Focus...
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,691
    He meant Fusion, not Focus. The point was the Milan is a sister vehicle to the Fusion just like the Sable was to the Taurus.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    ahh I see; makes sense.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    "When Toyota/Honda have an issue, you don't hear about it. Now, don't get me wrong, Ford/GM have had some quality issues in the PAST and the media isn't soley to blame. But the bias is rampant."

    That's funny, I hear about Honda and Toyota "issues", recalls, etc. all the time on TV, in newspapers, etc. In fact, I remember an article that was in the Wall Street about how Toyota was not happy about how many recalls they had recently, and what they were doing about it. I have not noticed any media bias, in MY opinion.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,669
    I agree with scape2. Unless you're reading a business periodical the only recalls I hear on the local evening news are for domestics.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,691
    It is getting better, especially with all the latest Toyota recalls. Reporters just think that Ford or GM having a recall is more newsworthy than Toyota or Honda.
  • nr9nr9 Posts: 55
    toyota camry is uglier and has a inferior chassis and suspension.

    mercury milan is the bestest
  • stlpike07stlpike07 Posts: 218
    You should go test drive a V6 SE and I wonder if you'll make that same statement.

    And, you said bestest........are you serious?
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    You cannot deny the V6 in the Camry is tops in 0-60 performance. But, there is more to a car than 0-60. Value is where Toyota falls short. Remember the days when you bought a Toyota and actually spent less and got more? The Milan has better styling, hands down. I also believe a Milan premier would best a Camry in the twisties, SE or no SE Camry.. ;)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    You cannot deny the V6 in the Camry is tops in 0-60 performance.

    I'd list the MazdaSpeed 6 and Honda Accord V6 6-speed as speed competitors. The Nissan Altima V6 is as powerful as the Camry's as well.

    I just realized, you probably meant between these two competitors only. My mistake.
  • Styling is your opinion. I don't like the styling and think it "looks" small.

    Thats my opinion and obviously you will disagree. But that is okay because we are all entitled to our own opinions.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Do you realize there is yet another comparison between the Fusion/Camry/Accord???? This time in California! 400 People and the Fusion won again!@ I sure wish the sedan comparision room would open so the Accord/Camry troops can explain how the Fusion won AGAIN!@ :shades
  • virusvirus Posts: 21
    I guess it's just a matter of opinion. The Fusion looks horrible to me. The Milan is much better and the Lincoln looks great. I still prefer the overall styling of the Camry SE.
  • kyrptokyrpto Posts: 216
    Test of Fusion/Camry/etc was skewed:
    The Ford was AWD vs. front drive for the others.
    The '07 Camry sales already past the half MILLION mark,
    something Ford can only dream about.
    And making marketing moves like changing the Ford 500 name to Taurus is questionable.
    All the folks who went for the 500 in its brief life will get even less if they trade.
    With Damlier-Chrysler looking to sell the Chrysler division will Ford next? It may be the only way it will stop bleeding money and introducing dated products like its Edge [heavy, seats only 5, poor MPG, ESC not standard].
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,691
    The Ford was AWD vs. front drive for the others.

    That's perfectly valid since the others don't offer AWD and the prices of the competing vehicles were similar. For the same money you get AWD and better handling.

    ESC not standard].

    ESC IS standard. If you're going to rant at least get your facts straight.
  • I must say i have seen the commerials on tv and the Milan. Toyota is the #1 in sales and 78% of Toyota buyers return to purchase another one. If Ford was building the quality that Toyota has been, they would not be having money issues and poor sales. The trade value and ACV on the Toyota Camry is much better then the Ford line. That should tell you something.Honda does make a good product, but there again you are talking import.We test drove several cars, our options endless and we did not care what we spent, BUT are long as we got what we paid for. We bought and love the 2007 Toyota Camry SE fully loaded. We love it for all the reasons a fussy car owner would expect for a classy car. Toyota is not selling cars at record amounts if they were poor quality. :)
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Test of Fusion/Camry/etc was skewed:
    The Ford was AWD vs. front drive for the others.


    That was kind of the point of the ad...to inform people that Fusion has AWD available.
  • kyrptokyrpto Posts: 216
    Toyota customers have much better choice for AWD than Ford/Mercury - we know first hand as an '06 Highlander hybrid is our other car. It will be years before Ford is able to build a SEVEN passenger, AWD vehicle that can reach 60 in under 7 seconds and get 26 - 27 MPG.
    No rant here, just facts except for the VSC error. I'm glad Ford is finally adopting VSC - I have already owned 5 vehicles from Toyota/Scion - ALL of them had/have VSC. The Highlander's VDIM is probably the best overall VSC program around and is included on the Camry Hybrid.
    My wife is commuting in our new Camry LE 4 cyl. and has already gotten one tankful at 30 mpg.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Toyota customers have much better choice for AWD than Ford/Mercury

    Sorry, but that is just a ridiculous comment for a number of reasons.

    This discussion is comparing two sedans.

    There is a wagon version of the Fusion, as well...it is called Edge. So that would be the Highlander competitor.

    Finally, I doubt a Highlander is comparably priced to AWD Milan/Fusion.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    So I guess the Camry/Accord having stability control is ok? Data not skewed, escpecially 2x, 2 different tests, 2 different locations, East coast/West Coast, 600 people/400 people, NOT PAID BY Ford either. I ask again.. Because McDonalds sells more burgers than Wendys does it make it better? Nope.. Fusion sales are up 46 percent by the way.. :shades:
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Get out on the net do some searching yourself. There are plenty of peeved off Toyota owners out there along with Recalls/TSB's ect. I have to really wonder if the media is placating a giant. Yes Toyota has lots of $$$ because they over charge for their vehicles. I know of a person who paid $22,500 for a Camry SE 4cyl! I paid just $23,000 for my Fusion SEL V6 loaded with leather, sunroof, heated seats the works.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,668
    And I know one who paid only $21,100 for his SE 4 cylinder automatic.

    The reason Toyota has tons of money is because they are producing what the consumer wants, and they have consistently been exceptional in the car business.
    When I was in grad school, Toyota was the benchmark for a well-run manufacturing company, and we studied their methods all the time, just like other companies still do.

    The Fusion is a good car for some, the Camry a good car for others. It really is just a personal preference. :)
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    And I know one who paid only $21,100 for his SE 4 cylinder automatic.

    That is supposed to be a bargain, I guess.

    I paid $16,000 for my 4 cyl Mazda6 automatic (mid level trim) and I know someone who paid about $18,000 for the top trim level 4 cyl automatic Mazda 6. I think Fusion/Milans sell for similar prices, if you factor in the value of discount financing.
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