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What about Volvo's future?

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  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Well they can borrow it from China, Why not our country does !!!!! ;) :P

    -Rocky
  • cu503cu503 Posts: 30
    Hi, I have seen you are a Volvo Guru and wanted to hear your thoughts. I have a 2000 S8o, 115K miles, NO PROBLEMS! Guess I am one of the few!. I am looking at the new S80, 6 cylinder and see VERY little discussion on it. I see write ups where it not equal to an BMW 5 series, or a A6, but it looks like a nice car. Whats the scuttlebut? any bad news on this car ? (like my current one!), I see lower and lower leases in the papers, and I am assuming very slow sales, any huge discounts out there on these? did all the bad PR on Gen 1 S80 screw up potential sales on Gen 2?
    thanks, Dave
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    The new S80 is a very very nice car.
    It won't go around a race track as well as a 5 Series,but it isn't anywhere as expensive either.
    It is more than capable against the A6 however.
    It is quiter,more comfortable and it handles better than your 1st gen car.
    Plus, we haven't had any come back with issues.

    As for sales, Volvo actually had a very modest sales goal for the S80,unlike the 1st generation car.
    The Premium sedan segment has seen its sales decline over the last couple of years,even BMW is feeling the pinch in that segment.
    Where Volvo went wrong at launch was not providing a subvented lease for the car.
    Every car in the segment has a subsidised lease.
    So, Volvo was late for that,but since we came out with the lease program,sales have been brisk.
    Most retailers are running short of inventory,and the 08's are more than 30 days out in most cases.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,969
    "Around the end of the decade, all Volvos will share either Ford's CD-EU platform or the compact C1 platform used now by the Ford Focus and the Mazda 3."

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  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I think it needs to be pointed out that the platforms are re-worked for Volvo's use.
    High stength steels and asdditional bracing is added for Volvo.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,147
    but shouldn't that be "if volvo is still part of ford"?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I seriously doubt that Ford would sell 100% of Volvo.
    They would continue to share platforms,even with the new entity.
    Remember, the sharing isn't all 1 way.
    Ford uses the Volvo 5 cyl engines in the Euro Focus,and the Roll Stability systems in their SUV's.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,147
    oh, i know.
    volvo is very integral in Ford. extracting them will be a huge mess.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • What do you know about the upcoming XC60? Any idea of the price range this will fall into?How big or small is this wagon?
    The show car looks awesome....if they don't mess up the exterior looks when they make this.Will it be out late 08 or??
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Production version is supposed to be unveiled at the Detroit auto show.
    Power will come from the 3.2l I6, maybe the Turbo 6 eventually.
    Should be about the size of the X3, LR2 crossovers.
    Price in the $30's.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Volvo is getting closer to being a Chinese brand...

    Ford CEO Mulally says talks on Volvo are progressing

    UPDATED: Sept. 25 11:21 CET

    Ford Motor Co.'s plans for the sale of Volvo are progressing, CEO Alan Mulally said on Friday.

    Ford has not said who it is talking with about Volvo but China's Geely Automotive has said its parent company wants to buy the Swedish brand.

    Mulally was speaking in Chongqing, China, at a ground-breaking ceremony for a new 150,000-unit factory that will boost Ford's production capacity in the country to 600,000 by 2012.

    .......The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Ford is analyzing a recent Geely bid to acquire 100 percent of Volvo for about $2.5 billion, citing people familiar with the matter.

    The newspaper said Geely has emerged as the leading contender to acquire Volvo from Ford.

    Ford said in December 2008 it was considering selling its money-losing Volvo unit as part of a strategic review of the business as it continues efforts to turnaround its own fortunes.


    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090925/ANE02/309259991/1257- - &AssignSessionID=273363776571698

    Will it lose its remaining luster once it is Geely Volvo? Or will the Chinese really know how to run a "Swedish" car company?

    BTW, that new Chongqing plant will be building Focuses for export......the Chinese are coming! I imagine it won't be TOO long before Volvos are being built in China too, for export worldwide......

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,152
    if they get bought by Geely. Unless they decide to leave them independant, and just use the engineering talent (and like Ford, take the existing platforms to underpin their own models).

    ALthough it is hard to imagine it will be worse than what GM did to SAAB!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Ugh, I hope not. That's why they'll have to pry the steering wheel from my cold, dead hands from this one (1970 144S 4-speed):

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  • And, speaking of SAAB - this one too (1985 SAAB 900 5-speed), both examples of my "real" Swedish iron:

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  • fezofezo Posts: 9,328
    Love the 144. I had a 142 that was a year older than yours.

    I have a terrible feeling for Volvo's future if the Chinese are going to run the show. i would love for them to prove me wring.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,152
    I love that car. I learned to drive on my folks '69 144S 4 speed. Same color as yours, without the wheels of course!

    Still miss that car, but my sister hated it. I used to have to go out and take the parking brake off for her and my mother after me or my father cranked it on!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • Thanks. It's been on the road, as has the '85 SAAB, since purchase. The paint (Medium Blue) on the 144S is original. It's too bad I don't have a shot (I'll have to take one later) of the front, as it has driving lights and an IPD air dam (installed way back in 1973).

    In fact, the car is extensively prepared with IPD parts including cam, ported and polished head, tubular header, electronic ignition, etc, as well as a larger front sway bar, rear sway bar, IPD's rally springs, Bilstein shocks, Volvo's once optional ATS aluminum wheels, and Volvo's old Competition Department's gauge cluster (see photo), and Nardi leather-covered steering wheel. I changed out the original twin Stromberg 175CDSE carbs in 1972, and switched over to twin SU HS6 carbs. Tried Weber 45DCOE's side drafts, but they were simply too much carburation for the engine.

    The 144S is built like a tank, and yet reasonably sporty. Most of the 140-series cars in my area (central Illinois) are long gone due to poor maintenance and rust. It's a survivor, much like me (Age 62) - and, still a Volvo enthusiast!

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,152
    Way more guages than ours had!

    Brings back memories. I can even see the choke hiding behind the LS of the wheel.

    ANd it looks like you have air. One more thing we did not have.

    Talk about simple. No PS, PB or air.

    I do recall the carns being a recurring problem though. I think they had to be adjusted often. That, and the mutliple mufflers rusting out.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • fezofezo Posts: 9,328
    My old 142 was a victim of rust and some mechanical issues that no doubt came from less than stellar maintenance of the previous owner. It was a dark blue.

    Nice manual choke but nothing of the neat gagues you've got. Had a horizontal speedometer and was very slow. Loved it anyway.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,969
    I'm biting my tongue about the '74's I had experience with.

    Carry on. :shades:

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