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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    ... Ann Arbor and Detroit-Metro Area should be separated. Around Rochester, yes, you are more likely to see a Grand Am Boy Racer Super Cladding or a modded Focus. Ann Arbor, of course, is Volkswagen/Honda/Nissan/et al. city... at least around campus. My aunt just moved into town with her mid-1990s Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    I believe the dealer I've been working with has located a 2001 Prelude Type SH for me. He's offered to sell me the car for invoice.

    He just has to verify the color for me (I told him Red, White, or Silver). I want him to make sure the car is new with no demo miles (I know the VTEC engines are sensitive during break in). I asked him to see that there were no dealer installed accessories (especially the moonroof visor that covers 3/4 of the moonroof when it is open.

    If all is kosher, then I've just got to scrape some cash together, put it in a paper bag, & head over to the dealership!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    GOOD LUCK!
  • norenore Posts: 2
    Hi,

    I have read the last 200 or so messages, and the amount of valuable information posted on this vehicle (and its competitors) is staggering. Great job!

    I am looking for a 99-and-up Prelude base w/ SportShift with under 30k miles... Can anyone tell me how much I should expect to pay? Edmunds' ~$18500 quote for a 2001 model sounds almost too good to be true.

    Also, I live in NYC; if any NYC Prelude carshoppers can lend me some advice, that would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks!!!
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Check the used car search on cars.com, which while not the same as Edmunds' numbers all the time, is often a great indicator of what cars are going for. Enter in a zip code, search for all Preludes within 500 miles, and just eyeball the prices to get a feel for the spread.
  • I have a 99 Prelude SS with 30,xxx miles on it. It is a lease and i have to turn it in come October. If you can wait until then, you can buy it from my dealership. I think the residual would be like 14k or so. Maybe there is some way that i could turn it in early of something???? I have done all scheduled maintenance and oil changes at dealership with records and only mods are Iceman CAI (have stock airbox and resonator in my garage) and a C/F interior kit (which can be easily removed) and Blue H's on hood and trunk.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    I'm working with Honda of Nanuet (about 25 miles north of the city) and I believe they have some brand new base models with sport shifts on their lot. I'm sure they'd be willing to part with one of them below invoice for you. For a few thousand more, it makes sense to buy a brand new one. The gentleman I'm working with has been very accomodating (I believe he's located an '01 Type SH for me). His name is Steve. He's the internet salesman. I believe you can shoot him an email via their website at www.nanuethonda.com

    Tell him Bradd (The guy in the who's looking for an SH Prelude) sent you. I haven't bought the car from him yet, but I'm sure he'll appreciate it!

    Good Luck!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    The guy's name is Steve Pincus. His email address is nanuethonda@hotmail.com

    Good Luck!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • shmangshmang Posts: 297
    Did you get your car or any info. on the car? I am curious on what the deal will be on Prelude for now - if you don't mind sharing...
  • norenore Posts: 2
    Thank you for all of your advice. Based on my brief cars.com search, either Edmunds' quote is off, or the dealers are leaving room for negotiation :) I will contact the Nanuet Honda about their new base model Preludes, and if that doesn't work out, we might be able to work something out, PreludeEd ;)

    Again, thank you!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Well, this guy Steve at nanuet Honda apparently doesn't want to sell me a car, he wants to play games. he offered to see me a new Prelude Type SH at invoice if he locates one for me. He now says he wants a deposit just to locate the car. I emailed him and told him that if he finds me the car that I want, I'll gladly give him a deposit, but won't give him a deposit for him to run a locate on the computer for me. I then left him a voicemail and asked him to call me back so we can discuss matters further. He hasn't called or responded to my email or called me back.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    He called me yesterday & told me he's looking for the car for me and has found a few on the locator computer. He says now it is just a matter of calling to see if the inventory on the computer is up to date. He said there's quite a few Black Type SH Preludes out there, but I told him I want Red, White, or Silver. Steve is off today and will be back on Wednesday. The waiting is a killer:)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • mikeg444mikeg444 Posts: 17
    I am in the market for a either a used Prelude (92-96) or a used Acura Integra (94-98). Unfortunately it has to be an automatic so my wife can drive it as well. Does anyone have any thoughts on which one to purchase?

    We own a 4Runner, so I am not worried about space. We just need a fun commuting and reliable commuting car.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    You really can't go wrong with either, since they're both very reliable and well-built.

    The Integra offers slightly better fuel economy, better utility (with the hatch), and lower insurance rates. Since you're looking for the autobox, you will have little difficulty locating one that hasn't been modded by the previous owner.

    The Prelude gives you a better (if slightly odd) interior with really nice seats, a smoother, quieter highway ride, and more torque from the larger engine (which will match the auto tranny better). 4th generation ('92-'96) Preludes are fairly difficult to find, so you might have a tough time negotiating a favorable deal.

    Good luck!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    himiler: Are you sure the Prelude will have higher insurance? The Integra is a more widely stolen car.

    mikeg44: Whatever you do, buy a car that hasn't been modified. If you're thinking Automatic, I'd definitely advise the Prelude. My best friend had one in high school and the 2.3L 160hp DOHC engine (In the Prelude Si) is matched very well to the automatic. It got us into plenty of trouble:) I like the styling better as well.

    The Integra will give you more utility, but may not be as fun to drive with the automatic (140hp).

    Both will give you great handling, good fuel economy, solid reliability, & a smile on your face every time you drive the car.

    Of course my opinion is biased because I just bought a 2001 Prelude Type SH;)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • kenjabikenjabi Posts: 76
    I have a 99 Base 5 speed Prelude with 33K miles. I've driven it about 2500 miles since its last oil change, and when I checked the oil the dipstick barely touched oil. I added a couple of quarts of oil and now it's between max and min level.

    I've begun noticing a small puff of blue smoke and smelling burned oil when I start the car after it's been sitting for a while (like overnight). I also occasionally notice a large puff of blue smoke when I VTEC it, which is pretty rare for me. I have no mods on my car, use 10W-30 oil (like manual says), and don't drive it very hard.

    I took it to the Honda dealer this morning since it's still under warranty, but the Honda service guys are telling me this is all normal. Is it? Are other 5th gen owners noticing the same thing?

    I've looked at hondaprelude.com and preludeonline.com and quite a few have the same problem, but I know that a lot of those guys mod their engines and/or race them a lot, so I'd figure they'd get more wear and tear than a "regular" driver.

    The car is still fairly new and I'd like to keep it for quite a while longer, so I don't want this to become a bigger problem down the road.
  • blacktalonblacktalon Posts: 203
    I had the same problem when my 2001 Prelude was new. It burned about one quart every 1000 miles for the first 4000 miles. After that, the problem went away completely, and it's been fine for the last 3000 miles.

    From the other websites, it seems like a pretty common problem, even with completely stock 'ludes.
  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    98 SH - No oil loss so far and 44,000 miles.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    kenjabi---you should be using 5W-30 oil, which offers better start-up flow than 10W-30. A little bit of oil consumption isn't unusual for the H22, but your puff of blue smoke upon cold start isn't typical. I would ask the dealer to check the compression on each of your cylinders.
    If the dealer won't do it for free, I'd be tempted to pay for the test, just so that if any repairs are required, they will fall under warranty.

    I just hit 39,000 miles today and have yet to see any oil consumption. The moonroof has become pretty loosey-goosey, however.

    nyccarguy--Re: insurance
    I can speak only from experience. When I replaced my '98 GS-R with the '01 Lude, the annual premium went up $120, and that's factoring-in the ignition immobilizer on the Lude. Maybe it was just the difference in model years.

    BTW, how's the SH working for you?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Insurance, was probably the change in model year from '98 to '01. While shopping for Insurance, I realized that Insurance Companies consider the SH to be a "high risk" car not for theft, but as a Sports Car. I'm 26 (not assigned risk) and have a perfect driving record from the day I got my license on August 31, 1992. I had to register & insure the car in my father's name to get my annual premuim DOWN to $2200!

    My new SH, I love it! I have pictures and can't stop staring at them. The handling is nothing short of telepathic (and I haven't pushed it). It seems very easy to drive the car around town. The clutch is light. I haven't opened the car up yet. I'm going to do my best to adhere to a 1200 mile break in period (dealer says 600, but what does he know) I haven't driven it much though as I live in NYC and keep my cars (Prelude & Saab until 12/02) at my parents' house in the suburbs.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    That's TWO (2) reasons not to live in New York City (NYC).
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    Argue That point!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • waydewayde Posts: 198
    Hey Guys. Wondering what a "good" price is for a "new" car that is really 1 (and almost 2) years old?
    nyccarguy - if you don't mind, can you share with us what you got your SH for?
    I'm looking at either a white sportshift (yes, I like shifting - but a shoulder injury makes it sometimes painful) or a red base 5 speed (I would have to deal w/ the reoccurring pain!). The sticker is about 24... what "should" it go for?
    Thanks guys!
    Wayde
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    A friend of mine recently bought a new silver Type SH for about $22.5k with the carbon fiber dash kit and some other junk (wheel locks, something else) thrown in. He traded his '01 SS in for something like $18k and is absolutely ecstatic.

    I'd imagine that you should be able to get the base 5-speed or a SS for around $21k. The dealer where my friend got his had received a $500 or $1000 rebate coupon from Honda Motor Co (can't remember which) and they were selling the car at either $500 or $1000 below invoice. Not bad at all. This was about four or five weeks ago now.

    I saw a white Prelude on the road the other day, a Type SH, and must say that it looked gorgeous. It was clean, and with the side skirts shining it was definitely drawing some stares. My recommendation is for the 5-speed, but drive both and decide which appeals to you more. The SS works nicely but the relatively high-strung Prelude is happier with the manual transmission. Either car is a bargain if you can still find one new.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    first and foremost I'm going to recommend the 5 speed:) That being said, thw Sport Shift is fast enough for a lot of people. Many of the nuts over on hondaprelude.com and preludeonline.com have modifyied their Sport Shift cars and are happy with the results. The dealership where I bought my car from (Honda of Nanuet) had about 6 Sport Shift models sitting on the lot which they were willing to part with quite cheaply (I don't remember the exact dollar figure).

    Sphinx99's friend paid less than I did for his SH. I paid Invoice ($23,700) for my car at the end of April. I probably could have done better if I had found it sitting on a dealer's lot somewhere, but the local dealer near my house located it for me, swapped a Civic Si for it, and sent someone to get the car, so I'm happy. For the SH, I was quoted anywhere from $1000 under Invoice (dealer in North Carloina) to invoice (which I paid) to about $400 to over invoice and the highest was about $2000 over sticker from a dealer in the Maryland/DC area. The 5 speed is so easy to drive. It is my first stick and am having relatively little problems with it. Even with your shoulder injury, you should consider it.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    hondaprelude.com and preludeonline.com are full of nuts!
  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    Did your friend, by any chance, get that Prelude at Honda of Troy? You said he bought a silver Type SH.

    I was talking to a friend of mine over dinner (another Economics student from Metro Detroit, connections to Ford through family) who currently has a Contour. Says he'd really like an Accord coupe... ugh! I like the Accord coupe, but what's with these people? Oh, right, you can't find new Preludes around anymore anywhere.

    I don't know any Honda dealers with Preludes left on the lot, nyccarguy, around here. Suburban Honda, Howard Cooper Honda, Fischer Honda, Brighton Honda, Anderson Honda, Friendly Honda, et al. here in SE Michigan are more than happy to sell you an Accord, though. If you guys are still finding new 'Ludes, more power to you!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,468
    myself blessed to have found one of the few remaining Type SH Preludes around:) I put in my first aftermarket modification, a hands free kit w/ speaker phone for my cell phone. Talking on a cell phone and driving here in NY is illegal. I detest those ear buds (they don't stay in).

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    As long as you're not planning on racing your car, the SS Prelude is a safe bet. The H22A4 motor has more than enough torque to keep the car light on its feet with the autobox.

    Good luck in your decision. Please let us know what you end up doing.
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