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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • cota99cota99 Posts: 28
    If you don't mind my asking, what did you pay in total for your Prelude? Thanks in advance.
  • I'm considering buying a new Prelude. Based on my experience with understeer in hard corners with smaller Hondas, it seems to me the SH with ATTS would be a nice feature. I've visited dealers and they've told me that the SH isn't available for 2001, and they don't seem to know what the ATTS is. Is it true that the SH is no longer available, or is my dealer in just not well connected?
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    although they should know what the SH feature is. They probably just don't want to tell since they can't sell it to you.
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    >..and they don't seem to know what the ATTS is.
    I would wonder what else those dealers do not now about the car???

    I'm pretty sure (110%) that 2001 SH EXISTS! I'd suggest you try other dealerships in your area. Internet would also be a good option - at least you'll find out if the car is available anywhere else or not? The dealers would of course lie to you if they have a base prelude sitting in their lot (or a buddy dealer's lot) that they want to sell before the year is over. Go Internet!
  • Canadiancl is correct - no SH for Canada, however it still exists for the states.
  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    go to www.honda2001.com or go to a better dealership for details
  • Hi Gang,

    I currently drive a 95 Integra RS (base) and it has given me 100,000 trouble free miles. However, I would like to move up to something with a little more refinement and torque - specifically, I dislike all of the engine, wind and road noise that comes with the ride of the Integra.

    Can anyone give me an idea if the prelude would be a good choice to address my tastes? I am hoping that I could get a good deal on a new one after the new Integra hits the Acura showrooms.

    Thanks!
    Ed.
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    Ed, my sincere suggestion is that you go test drive the prelude yourself and find out if it's got what you're looking for. In my opinion you'd be pleased. One more thing, though - if you wait too long, you may not find one ...
  • The Prelude is much faster than the RS, so if you're looking for a performance upgrade, I think you'll be very pleased. On the other hand, while the Prelude is more refined than the Integra, it's not a Lexus. There's still a substantial amount of engine noise, especially at high revs.

    I'd second asethi's suggestion to take a test drive to see if the Prelude is what you're looking for, as well as his recommendation that you do it soon. I bought my 2001 Prelude in October, and dealers were already making good deals, because the model is a slow seller. But because it's a slow seller, the total number manufactured is small, and they're likely to sell out by the end of the model year.
  • Wind/Engine/Road noise are unavoidable in the Prelude... It's a typical Honda cars' problem, and i'm kind of annoyed by those things... but other than that, Prelude is a great car: good looking (outside and inside), great handling... etc... like asethi says, go ahead and have a test drive! but i'm pretty sure prelude is better than the current integra... :)
  • It sounds like you need a more comfortable car than the Prelude because Integra and Prelude have pretty much same Wind/Engine/Road noise. As a high performance car, because of their high rev, low profile tires and gas suspension, it will suffer the comfort. Anyway, go and have a test drive to get your own feeling. A Honda Accord V6 coupe would be a great replacement for your Integra, lots of torque, more comfort with a reasonable price.

    I own the Prelude 2001 and love it's excellent handling (doesn't mean comfort), high rev and sporty look and feel. High rev means noise, but that's the way it should be :I).
  • sidmansidman Posts: 10
    I have been sold on Honda for years and currently have '98 Civic Ex coupe with a lease ending soon. I had been set on the 5 spd Prelude '01 but recently was pointed to the '01 WV GTI glx as a comparable rival loaded with a lot more features with the same sticker price(my only complaint with the Prelude has been that the interior is rather sparse and reminds me of the last two civics I have had. I would appreciate some guidance.
    sidman
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    VW's are more problematic than Hondas. Besides I think the Prelude looks alot sportier. One potential downside is the Prelude may be extinct within the next couple of years.
  • Thanks for the advice.. I actually would simply love to buy an Accord Coupe, but I am deathly allergic to automatic transmissions. And those TipTronic things are pathetic.

    Unfortunately it seems that Honda/Acura isn't all that interested in manual transmission dinosaurs like me... only their 4 cyl cars have that option.

    I figured that a Prelude was the closest thing to a manual V6 sports coupe in the lineup of all Toyota and Honda/Acura cars at the $20,000 range (except the Solara, which I don't like the looks of). Since Toyota/Honda are the only two manufacturers I will consider, I am sure am disappointed with the slim pickings out there. An IS300 would be wonderful, but too expensive. A manual V6 Accord coupe would be perfect. Oh well...

    Actually, you know what is sad? A friend of mine has a 5spd 96 Ford Probe GT. The ride is refined and quiet, the engine and transmission is decent (Mazda), and it looks pretty good too. Its too bad Honda doesn't make anything comparable.

    My tentative plan was to look into the Prelude once the new Integra was released, so I could maybe leverage a better deal.
    Rebuttal? :)
  • Ed, you might want to take a look at the Mitsubishi Eclipse GT. It has a refined V6, comfortable ride, available 5-speed manual, and it's pretty quick.

    Personally, I decided that I prefered the Prelude's razor-sharp handling and VTEC rush, but you might find the Eclipse more to your taste. That is, if you're willing to consider Mitsubishi.
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    now I know better where you stand. The way I figure is, given the constraints that you have, you have 3 choices:
    1- Next gen Integra
    2- Prelude
    3- Celica - if you don't mind its looks.

    One more thing is that I don't believe you'd get a better deal on the prelude just because there's a fresh integra in the market. Yes, Honda doesn't sell that many preludes, but they don't make that many as well. The last couple years have seen fresh coupes like cougar, celica, eclipse, (mustang?),... but this has not brought down the price of a prelude. Good luck with your decision.
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    >1. Low-rev torque is weak;
    So rev it up - that's why you have a 7500 rpm redline. :-)

    >2. Tires not "grippy"(stock Bridgestone RE-92);
    True. The car is much more capable of with better tires.

    >3. Semi-auto is slow;(Actually I enjoy the full-auto more)
    This is true for any car in this class/price range.

    >4. Body hardness;(although I know the Prelude's body is a lot stiffer than Civic and Integra)
    I heard and read that S2000's body is really hard and strong, is tht true???
    Do you mean the suspension or the construction? Of couse S2K has a better suspension - it should, it's a different class of car.
  • only1harryonly1harry Posts: 1,136
    Oh boy, do you guys put down the Integra.. I think the GSR is very comparable to a Prelude. I 've driven both many times (well the Prelude, I mean, I own a '99 GSR)
    As far as body regidity, my friend says my GSR feels a light tighter and rigit than his '98 SH.

    Anyway, our friend is looking for more torque with a more cushy and less noisy ride WITH a 5-sp. no less! I think his choices are almost next to none in the low $20K range. The Eclipse GT would probably be the best choice but they go for around $24-25K, like a fully loaded SH.
    Another thing to consider is the very strong rumors that once the new Integra is out, there won't be any more Preludes, but just a high output Civic, like an Si/Si-R taking the Prelude's place. We 'll see..
    I was in Europe this past summer and only saw 1 Prelude. My cousins told me that they 're very expensive over there and that there are many other good choices for less money. The said a Prelude over there is almost the same price as a BMW 323 (or a 320 with a 2.0L, they got different models there with smaller engines).
  • hikaruhikaru Posts: 2
    I think the Prelude is way too popular in US and Canada just because there aren't many good competitors.
    If you can import any car to the US, what will you bring to "compete with" the Prelude?
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    Hey prelude owners, given another $10K what car would you buy next and why? Please only reply if you drive a prelude. And, no 4-doors please.
  • A sincere thanks for all of the advice so far... the year-end bonus came in early, so I am ready to buy at any time.. unfortunately, questions remain for Prelude owners..

    1) It seems that most here believe that the Prelude is not much more refined than the Integra... but I was looking at the vehicle weights between the two.. the Prelude weighs about 400 lbs more! I know that the slightly larger engine would be part of that, but I was under the assumption that some of the difference was due to better insulation and sound deadening material... am I wrong? The sizes of the cars are not much different...

    2) I also realized (I think) that the Prelude will ONLY run on the high octane stuff.. that it is required, not just recommended.. is that so??

    3) I might consider a Mitsubishi Eclipse, but I am Canadian, and Mitsu isn't in our marketplace. But to be honest, it would be doubtful that I would stray from Honda/Toyota. As an aside, take a look at the long term review section in Edmunds, and read the review on the Mazda Tribute/Ford Escape. Then scan down to the recall section... positively frightening!! This is precisely the reason that I am sold on Honda/Toyota quality.

    4) Don't get me wrong, I love to rev the engine, and would have nooo problem with the VTEC engine. But I just want to make sure that the noise isn't overly excessive, especially at non-Vtec rpms at highways speeds, like my Integra is.

    4) The reason that I haven't simply gone down to the corner Honda dealer and test driven a Prelude is because the closest dealer to me is about 300 miles away. I would rather learn all I can before I make the commitment... hence all the questions (thanks again for tolerating me!!)

    Ed.
  • hikaruhikaru Posts: 2
    Being a big HONDA fan myself, I think I will get a S2000;
    Or the BMW coupe.
  • jk111jk111 Posts: 125
    yep, prelude is pretty expensive over there. I just read the CAR magazine yesterday and the prelude cost about 24k pounds at england! Not to mention they have the 130bph version and 200bhp version. But there compact car selection is so extensive over there, WRX, Evol 6, Clio v6..

    edblakeley, have you considered the Maxima? You can probably find a Maxima SE for 24 grand. Not to mention it is comfortable, quick, low noise level and available in stick.
  • hgileshgiles Posts: 66
    My next car is a 2004 M3. I love my 98 SH, though. Unfortunately, I can't get the M3 right now.
  • Next car? Good question. If I can get the S2000 with the MSRP price, I would go for it :o). The new Integra (Accura RSX) is coming and let's see what they get. M3 is way too expensive, at least 20K in additional to the Prelude. Lexus IS 300 is also a great car but it get 4 doors and automatic only. Hm... it seems not much choice here. Tell me yours ...
  • kkl1kkl1 Posts: 16
    Ed-

    I have owned a '98 Prelude for 30 months. I add regular octane gasoline half the time and the premium fuel the other half. It does not seem to impair performance and my engine remains quiet and smooth. In addition, the owner's manual indicates that regular octane fuel can be used; the engine will retard timing to accomodate this, although performance could be impaired. I find the Prelude surprisingly quiet for highway cruising. With regards to refinement, opinions vary, but in a comparison test of several sport coupes about 1 year ago, Car and Driver indicated that the Prelude was more refined than the Integra (the Prelude also was first in that test overall). Good luck with your decision.

    Ken
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    Ed, I've got over 50K miles (mostly highway) on my 98 and I've never had any complaints about road noise. Actually, this car is much more quieter than the passenger cars that I sometimes rent. Vtech does (and should!) sound loud (and sweet), though. So, rest assured the noise is definitely not going to be "overly excessive". :-)
  • asethiasethi Posts: 76
    Well, that's the reason I posted the question - I really don't have any car in mind! I definitely don't want the S2000, I need some more low end torque since I need a daily driver. So, what I'm looking for in my next car is - faster with more low-end torque and significantly better handling than the prelude. I don't want to spend another $10K for any car that almost handles the same and is 0.5 seconds faster than the prelude. Another thing you get with the Prelude is that it's not that common, would be nice if my next car is the same way. Honestly, I don't think I can get all this for just $10 more. The closest maybe an M coupem, but that's a lot more $$$? I don't know.
  • leftonlefton Posts: 8
    With all due respect to harry, gsr can't touch a ludes performance. Yes lude is heavier, due to more motor and heavier susp. But do the math and you will see stock vs stock lude wins the power to weight ratio. Also handles much better due to beefier anti roll bars, 16" wheels, ect. You can put a bigger motor in the civic platform, but, its still a civic. If you need more torque, wait for the is300 to get manual trans. in march. Of course this is my opinion but again do the math. Take the weight of each car and divide it by h/p and you get power to weight ratio. The car with more power to weight is quicker. also factor in torque, lude has a least 25 ft # more than gsr. Hope this helps, Doug
  • Even if I had had 10k more to spend on a car (which I actually did), I would have still ended up with the Prelude. I considered BMW's, Lexus IS, Acura CL/Tl, etc., but in the end, I decided that I didn't want a "sport sedan." Two doors is enough for me, and plus, I love the styling.

    I think the only car I would trade the Prelude for is an NSX. Not to say that there aren't other good cars out there, but none that I prefer over the Prelude. I wouldn't mind owning a Celica for a little while, since I'm somewhat of a loyal Celica owner, but in the end, I'd want my Prelude back.
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