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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • Thanks a lot himiler and nyccarguy. Really is a big help. I think im going to go with the prelude. Hopefully i can get a good deal on an SH, either way i'll most likely go with the prelude. Thanks again.
  • Few years ago, I was thinking of replacing my 92 lude. I tested the 325i, it did not impress me a bit. Actually, my lude performs better than that bimmer and in the end I keep my lude.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    billy, while I have a type SH (as does Sphinx99), you'll probably be able to find a better deal on a base model.

    shmang: While I love the my Prelude as much as the next guy (himiler & sphinx99) on the board, it probably has to do with the low volume of posts or repetitive posts with little or no volume on other Prelude posts. There's a thread about the Prelude long term, well, you can talk about the prelude Long Term on this thread...

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • My 222,000 miles 92 lude failed the emission test. It costed me 160 clams to replace the catalyst converter.
    Is it a normal time for the cat to go belly up??
  • Just curious, cause im going to the dealer next week.. Is the SH worth it. My brother has a 2000 prelude without the sh. Just curious about the suspension. Does it seem to stiff at some points,, cause my brothers car seems a little stiff and thats just the base model.. I tend to drive pretty aggresive when im in the mood So im debating if the sh is better suited for me.any ideas. Im looking to spend around 12-14 thousand if that helps .Really Appreciate the feedback..Thanks.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Actually, if you tend to drive really aggressively most of the time, you're better off buying the base Prelude and getting a Quaife limited-slip dif. installed. The LSD runs ~$895 from http://www.kingmotorsports.com and any Honda shop should be willing and able to install it for you (install charges usually run anywhere from $450-700, depending on the shop).

    The Quaife will give you most of the advantages of the ATTS in the SH (although you won't have the SH's second steering link), and also gives you a traction benefit on hole shots and on low-traction surfaces.

    I had mine installed 5 months after I bought my car, and it has performed flawlessly. The Quaife carries a lifetime warranty, even if you use it in competition. http://www.quaifeusa.com

    It's also worth noting that there is a better selection of aftermarket parts available for the base model than the SH (suspension bits in particular), just because the ATTS unit can be tricky to tune around. That was my primary consideration in choosing the base over the SH.

    FYI--Not to knock the SH, but the ATTS unit is also heavy (~80lbs.), does require periodic service, and tends to give warning lights if you spin the tires alot on slippery surfaces.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    plus as I said before, a base model will be easier to find. Also, the insurance will be cheaper.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    I think I'm one of the few who had the benefit of owning both -- I leased a base 5MT; when the lease was over, I stepped "up" to a Type SH. In terms of road feel, the Type SH feels only slightly stiffer. The difference is mostly imperceptible. Likewise, I honestly cannot say that the Type SH's extra weight has made it feel any slower than my old Prelude did. The Type SH does come with body-colored side skirts that, surprisingly, had an enormous visual impact on the look of the car...

    Really, it's about exclusivity and ATTS. On the latter, when ATTS kicks in for those few brief seconds, the car feels like it's worth the premium. I sometimes feel that nobody believes me when I say that my SH actually seems to corner better (without losing traction) than my S2000 on tight corners. The flip side is that as I get older, I feel less and less inclined to push the car *that* hard, simply because by the time ATTS is kicking in, you're probably doubling or tripling the posted speed limit on that curve. ATTS really is useless on public roads unless you are planning to break some traffic laws.

    Exclusivity has its value too I suppose. The Prelude is a relatively exclusive and unknown car in many parts of the country; here in Detroit a 5th gen is as rare as a Viper, and I get all sorts of questions about it. A Type SH is even rarer. A satin silver (only available in '01) SH is still harder to find. It's possible that there are only a couple hundred satin silver Type SHs in the world, maybe just two or three in all of Michigan. I'll pretty much never see another one on the road. I know it's silly, there's no performance or financial justification for such things, but it's still something that puts a smile on my face. In a similar vein, I've noticed that those who do know Preludes regard Type SHs a bit differently... with the base, you never know whether one on the road is a SS or 5-speed, but the Type SHs are pretty much an enthusiast-only car, so on those rare occasions where you see another one, there's a fair amount of honking, light flashing, etc.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    ...so you never know if the base model is a 5 speed or a SS...or if it has a JRSC, or a turbo, or a LSD. I'm just happy to see another Prelude.

    At this point, getting ANY G5 Prelude has its own kind of exclusivity, if that's an important consideration for someone.

    One of the advantages of a Quaife over ATTS is that you don't have to push the car to experience its benefits.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 46,003
    220K for a catalytic is over the normal lifespan, so you have no complaints there.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    I know it has been out for a while, but I still chuckle when I see that commercial for the Acura CL Type S when the guy buys the house simply because of the ultra-twisty road you have to take to get to it. My girlfriend always says, "that's definitely you and your Prelude."

    So we're supposed to go to her cousin's wedding at the end of march and she says to me, "if you want we can all go in 1 car either (a) with my parents or (b) my brother and sister-in-law. I told her we're going with option c, my Prelude.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • Yeah, I like that commercial too.

    Nothing better to take your mind off a long day at work than to floor it on a twisty on-ramp...
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    I like that commercial too. Too bad it wasn't a Prelude. Did Honda ever advertise this car? I only have a few scans of magazine ads (am happy to email them to anyone who can post 'em and include links here).
  • could you post them? that would be cool to check out
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    There was a TV ad for the Prelude when the 5th Gens were introduced. It showed a toy hula dancer dancing on the dash of a San Marino Red Type SH, which was driving along a very twisty road. At the end of the commercial the toy hula dancer blew up (apparently from too much shaking) and the narrator said something to the effect of "The new Honda Prelude, choose your accessories carefully."

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • shmangshmang Posts: 297
    Recently, when the weather is cold, I feel it is hard to engage 1st gear sometimes - regardless of engine temp. even at a dead stop. Have anyone had this problem? It just started this year (My car is a '99 with 55K on it). Any solution for that?
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    You might need to change-out your tranny fluid, particularly if it hasn't been done in a while. Otherwise, a sticky first-gear synchro is nothing major to worry about when it's really cold outside.

    That said, if you are hearing of feeling any grinding or garunching when you shift, you should definately get it checked out asap.
  • shmangshmang Posts: 297
    The fluid might be the reason - Since I have never done a tranny fluid change since new. I do not have any grinding or anything like that - it just is not going into gear and I feel the resistance. Normally, I just put it to neutral/2nd gear and then shift it back to 1st, it will goes right in just as normal.

    Thanks for the quick response, himiler!
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    No problemo. Sounds like a simple fluid swap will do the trick.
  • Every Honda Ive owned has had this problem, and granted, Ive never changed the transmission oil. But there isnt any grinding, just a resistance, you shift back to neutral, and then it goes into first easily. Let us know if changing the tranny fluid does the trick.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    chillen -- I know what you're saying, but the shift lever should move fairly easily into 1st when the car is stopped.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    Driving this Jetta is driving me up the wall! I miss my Prelude! I'm going back up to my parents' this weeekend to get it. I'm sure as I decide this now, we'll be sure to get more snow!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    What's not to love about a torque-steering, solid rear axle riding, softly sprung, roll over in the turns and play dead sorority chick's car?

    In Europe, the Jetta is called the "Bora." 'Nuff said.
  • shmangshmang Posts: 297
    Never drove a Jetta. But, from all the ads, it seems to be a driver's car..... Well, guess not. Does Audi A4(2WD version) much better than the Jetta, since I heard a lot of good things about the A4.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,025
    you hit the nail right on the head!

    The ASR helped me out tremendously in the melting/freezing slush today. Torque steer is a relative term himiler, remember that my last car was a Saab.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    But at least the Saab had some personality!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 46,003
    Mine had lots of personalities, most of them requiring therapy.

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  • slivershsliversh Posts: 1
    Hi everyone,

    I just bought a silver '01 sh. (12k miles) I love this car. I used to have a G2 Integra coupe (LS).

    I'm excited to be a part of the prelude community. I also had a question. I'm considering buying an extended warranty. I've browsed the warranty boards but nothing was really conclusive. Do you guys have any ideas? (Honda care vs. online) Thanks
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Congrats on your car! You now own what is possibly the finest FWD sports coupe ever built.

    You'll have a tough time finding a car with greater overall reliability than a 5G Prelude, so I wouldn't say that a extended warranty makes a whole lot of sense.

    I'm of the opinion that car builders wouldn't sell extended warranties if they didn't make good money on them, and when you consider the fact you've bought a Honda...you get the idea.

    Still, if you want the piece of mind that an XW can give you, then it's probably worth your money. On the other hand, I've put 101,000 on my '01 since 10/15/01, and never had any trouble that wasn't covered by the standard warranty.

    I figured on saving $100 monthly in a fund to cover repairs ($0.00 so far) and scheduled maintenance. So far, I haven't been caught out by anything.

    Good luck with your decision, and enjoy your car!
  • shmangshmang Posts: 297
    Well put, himiler. When I bought my car, I was offered with 7/10000 extended warranty and I did not get it and I am not regret it until today ('99 with 55K on it). So, I would say skip that and save the money for something else.
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