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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    They'll be here just in time for the 50 degree weather we're going to have on Tuesday! So for now, the Prelude sits in a garage in The Bronx until this snow storm passes.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    Well I mounted my snow tires on 15" Black steel wheels. I put my stock Type SH wheels & tires up in storage for the duration of the winter.

    As far as looks go, it ain't pretty. It looks like I'm driving a car that somebody stole the hubcaps off of. Function over form works in this case.

    As far as drivability in the white stuff, I can't comment too much because my snow tires arrived the day after our big storm here and the roads were pretty much cleared. I did park on a huge heap of solidified slushy muck (technical term) last night and while creeping back and forth noticed the wheels didn't break traction like the Stockies did last year.

    The higher sidewalls make the cars road feel completely different. You can definitely feel the bumps are absorbed much better. Not a good thing for real Prelude driving, but It helps to know if you have to crash over a pothole you might come out unscathed.

    Took my car in for an oil, filter change, & alignment today. There were actually 2 other Preludes parked by the service bay. At least he has friends to hang out with tonight. One of them was a Balck Beauty. The guy had Black Honda Emblems on the car (looked great).

    Sphinx99: They had a Blue '04 S2000 in the showroom...WOW, what a beautiful machine:)

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Not sure how I feel about the emblems... I always thought the normal "stock" emblems were just fine, regardless of color! Except, the gold emblems on black definitely have some kind of panache... just not sure if it's the attractive kind.

    Good to hear about the snow tires! What brand?

    I'm quite in love with the S! The '04 is much easier to live with. Whereas the 2.0L didn't feel like it had that much more punch than the Prelude in the lower RPM range, the new 2.2L finally does. It's also quieter. Lastly the 17" rims really have changed the look of the car, I can't really go anywhere without it turning heads. The only downside are the tires, now Potenza RE050s which are not only worse than the S02s in the snow, they're even worse than the Prelude's RE92s :)

    As I think I posted elsewhere dig this: 1000rpm, 2mph per hour, 1 inch of light fluffy snow and the rear and was spinning all over the place. Useless.

    Blizzak LM22s in the stock '04 size are about $600 but I'm hoping to score a few 16" OEM S2000 tires used and wrap winter rubber around them. AFAIK, Prelude rims don't work which is too bad 'cuz I still have those three Type SH rims sitting in my closet. Thinking about selling 'em on eBay or something, they have curb rash but otherwise are in pretty good shape.

    I'm missing the Prelude's stereo which didn't have a ton of juice but at least had "fidelity" and "soundstage" of sorts. The S2000's stock speakers start giving out at about 1/2 max volume.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Oh, lastly, you know the carbon fiber dash kit that's available for the Prelude? I got it at some point from handaaccessories.com but only installed the center console pieces but not the door pieces. (These required disassembling the door, which I didn't want to do!) Anyway, should you (or others?) have the interest or werewithal to install the door panels which I still have tucked away in a bag, I'd be happy to ship 'em to NY as a holiday gift :)

    Of course, they're not real carbon fiber :)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    SO you did buy the S! Congrats! The blue is awesome (as I stated before).

    the snows I got are Michelin Pilot Arctic Alpin. They've got a 130mph speed rating and supposedly give nothing up to the standard Michelin Arctic Alpin as far as bad weather performance.

    Neither tire is as good as Bilzzaks in Snow & ice, but are much easier to live with. Blizzaks are very tempermental. The multicell compound that makes them stick to snow and ice so well wears when the weather starts hitting the 50 degree mark. They make noise on the highway, after I believe about 40% or their treadlife, the multicell compund wears away and you're driving a regular all season tire.

    I've never been a fan of gold emblems.

    I'd love to run the Prelude as log as possible and pick up an E36 M3 as a weekend car in a few years:)

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Yup, I switched a few weeks ago - check the S2000 thread for some observations. The '04 is a nicely refreshed version of the S2000 although some feel that it is a step backwards ("dumbed down") due to the engine change.

    Good feedback on the Blizzaks... hmm.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    Well I picked up my car today with some fresh Mobil 1 and new door hinges. They squeaked during my last visit. I complained to the service manager that the grease they sprayed didn't help, so she ordered and installed new hinges for me (under warranty of course).

    Getting back in my car was nothing short of wonderful after driving that rolling death trap of an '01 Accord DX (Auto, no ABS, no power accessories, no power, HELLO!) they gave me as a loaner car. I feel like Michael Knight driving a car that's not KITT when I drive the loaner. It was pretty slick out tonight after it rained most of the day here. The Pilot Alpins didn't slide through turns & corners like the RE92s do (a good thing). We're supposed to get snow this weekend so I'll give a full report.

    I had the pleasure of meeting the guy who worked on my car. He seemed maybe in his early to mid 20's. He asked me a bunch of questions about it and told me how much he really loves Preludes. He seemed to think my car is in good shape and was shocked that I park it on the street every night in the city.

    SPhinx99: I went back to the showroom to check out that Blue '04 S2K! That thing is really sweet. If you're still thinking of getting winter tires for it, definitely go with 4 tires and not just 2 on the rears. Your front tires still have to grip when the roads get slick. The S2K is light and needs all the help it can get.

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Have any of you tried Zaino? I'm thinking of putting my first Zaino order at some point in the near future.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    I haven't tried it, but there are guys all over TH that swear by it. From what I understand (from reading) it is a very difficult product to work with. It takes a while to dry, but you can't let it dry too long otherwise it is a real pain to remove.

    What'd you use on your Prelude & your '02 S2K? If what you used on the Silver was good, then use it on your Blue S2K. Why make extra work for yourself?

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    Sphinx99: What'd they give you at the dealership on your trade? Do you know what they're asking for it? Is it still on the lot? Just curious!

    So as we all know, Prelude sightings are few and far between. On 2 consecutive nights, I spotted 2 Preludes driving my way. Friday night was a White Type SH with some sort of ground effects kit, exhaust, and what looked to be like some sort of hyper-white bulbs. I flashed and honked when he passed me. He flashed some sort of strobe lights back my way with an air horn honk. Last night I passed a Blue base model who gave me the thumbs up after I honked and waved.

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    My post was nuked by the Righteous Hand of Shiftright. I guess we can't post links to other auto sites? (Yikes.)

    Anyway -

    I just want to try Zaino to see what the hype is about. I've been content with Meguires for a few years now... it's easily purchased at local auto stores.

    I got 17k for the Prelude... it's being advertised for 18.5k now. (Not sure if linking to the dealership also violates the policy... I'll err toward the side of caution.)
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    with Meguire's, then stick with it! I'm sure the Zaino turns out great, but how much better I really don't know.

    17K from the dealership isn't too bad. You had over 30K miles on the car right?

    What did you decide to do as far as winter wheels/tires on your S2000?

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Aren't you even the slightest bit curious about Zaino after all the hype?! I know, I know, it's silly but I really want to try this allegedly amazing stuff.

    Yes, 30k miles. Actually 31k-something. Trading it in actually spared me a $400-something 30k service bill too. The interval service is kind of pricy. The dealership does have the car and they're advertising $18.5k. Good luck to them, they're gonna need it!

    I've been holding off on tires because I really want to find a set of OEM 16" rims, but it's difficult. New, they're over $300 each, far too expensive. Every now and then I see them used on eBay or elsewhere but have been reluctant to pull the trigger. I might just call Tirerack tomorrow and buy the cheapest 16" rims they have that'll fit the S2000.

    The tires definitely will be Blizzak LM22s. A friend of mine has them in his daily driver 911 and they're phenomenal.
  • kkl1kkl1 Posts: 16
    Sphinx99-

    I have a silver '98 Prelude and I have used Zaino for it since purchase. For me, Zaino works great, keeps the sheen and water beading for 6-8 months per application--and the Prelude spent its first 5 years in rainy Portland Oregon. The dried wax was very easy to remove and made buffing a snap. Despite the fact it requires a 2-step application, it was still easier to apply and buff overall than standard waxes.

    Ken
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    So I went to the Jets vs. Patriots game last night with my Dad. Returned to the car after the game only to find that somebody was kind enough to borrow my Thule roof rack with bike attachments! I was beyond livid!

    The good thing is that the person who stole it knew what they were doing because there are only a few scratches on my roof from where they removed the roof rack!

    I'm still mad though!

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Of all the things I'd imagine to pose a risk of getting stolen, that would not have been one of them. Wheels, maybe. Engine, sure. Seats, why not. But the bike rack?!

    I guess they really needed it. Either that or the thief was, uh, intellectually challenged.

    (In Baltimore when I was in college, a guy went into a convenience store, pulled out a gun, but before asking for money he accidentally shot dead the clerk. Then, in front of the customers present, he spent five minutes yelling at the clerk to open the register and give him money... which was about how long it took for the police to show up. Baltimore didn't have very smart crooks.)

    Anyway... my deep consolences for your loss. Fortunately (and I know that's an odd word to use at a time like this) the person knew what they were doing. A bike rack is pretty cheap to replace versus, say, a paint job or worse.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    I appreciate your condolences:)

    Well, at least my beautiful Type SH Wheels are in storage for the winter:)

    For the life of me I can't figure out why they would steal the bike rack! Most people I know who bike or ski seem to have money. Maybe I'll check out ebay to see if the guy's selling it.

    The total cost of everything that was stolen is about $500. Part of what made me mad is that it was a gift from my girlfriend (now my fiancee) last year for Hanukkah.

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Now that I finally have someplace to host pictures I thought I'd post a pic of my dearly departed but fondly remembered Type SH. (Sorry about the blown out highlights.)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    It is beautiful!

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Yes, although the sex appeal of red is missing :)

    I posted some pics of the S2000 on the S2000 discussion topic, check 'em out.

    Saw something pretty bizarre the other day: a yellow 4th gen. I don't think I've ever seen one before, was it an available color? (I'm pretty sure the 3rd gens could be had in yellow.) The rear actually looked nice (those funky red taillamps against yellow paint) but the front was very modern-day-yellow-Cavalier in appearance.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    I was going to ask you to post some pics of your new Blue S2K, but you beat me to it:) I saw 'em last night! What a beautiful car! Best of luck with it! The Blue is definitely unique. The nw for '04 changes really make the car look better than it originally did:)-

    Did you get your winter tires/rims yet?

    When the 4th gen was introduced to the press (way back at the end of '91), the car on the cover of one of the magazines (Car & Driver I believe) was actually Yellow. It was never offered as a color choice here in the US. The car you saw must have been a custom paint job.

    There's actually a Yellow 4th Gen buzzing around my neighborhood near work. I think it is a '95. The car is painted a faded yellow. It looks like the Dakar Yellow from the E36 M3 or the Yellow on the VW bugs. Not my taste. I prefer the yellow above you mentioned like that on the Cavalier, SLK, 911 & Boxster, Diablo.

    I actually like the 4th gens a lot. The stock taillights look MUCH better than the Altezzas that most people seem to be putting on them.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    I want to wish everybody out there in Preludeland here on TH (blacktalon, himiler, sphinx99, and anybody else I may have forgotten) a happy, healthy, and safe new year!

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Absolutely - happy holidays to Prelude fans and owners everywhere! (Even owners of yellow 4th gens!)
  • Happy New Year to all the Prelude owners out there in Edmunds-land!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    I remember himiler saying (before he dropped off the face of TH and into his RED WRX WAGON) that one of the reasons he wanted the subie's AWD with I believe some other electronic gizmos (EBD, Stability Control) was that he needed all the help he could get against some of the scary drivers out there. Luckily my Prelude is still up to the daunting task.

    I got off an exit ramp that is a 10mph hairpin. There was some fellow in an Expedition (with only 1 functioning brake light on the left) who decided to stop in the middle of the apex to decide whether he made a wrong turn or not. The Preludes brakes were more than up to the challenge.

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    There's nothing more important on a car than progressive, linear brakes.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,662
    So This afternoon I parked my car where there were those concrete parking blocks. Well the car was parked uphill and I was in the last spot. So instead of reversing, I decided to just pull forward. DOAH! I'll be buying myself a new Michelin PA2 Alpin tomorrow along with a new $25 steel wheel and a new set of front mud flaps. It could have been much worse, but I'm still mad at myself for not paying attention.

    When you drive with the doughnut spare on, the ATTS light stays on. Once I get the correct sized tire it will be back to normal. Driving the Prelude with that Doughnut is like being Spider-Man without and web cartdriges.

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  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Don't let Mary Jane find out.
  • himilerhimiler Posts: 1,209
    Just thought I'd pop back in for a minute and see what was happening. Happy New Year, and such.

    NYC -- Bummer of a curb-job.

    How do you like those Alpins? I'm running four Dunlop Wintersport M2 tires with OE alloys on my WRX, and they get the job done quite nicely, although they're not as good on ice as the Alpins. For an H-rated snow, the M2s are very quiet and comfy.

    My former Prelude is doing great under its new stewardship -- the guy calls once in a while with updates, and I helped him remove and clean his CAI filter before winter hit. He just put 4 new Alpins on it, and is really enjoying the power-on drifting entertainment that they provide.

    Talk to you folks later!
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