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Honda Prelude 1997-2002

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,781
    I would think 250K is not typical but very much to the optimistic end of the bell curve, for ANY gas engine. Certainly do-able but I wouldn't bet on it as a sure thing. That's a lot of miles. Maybe you could overhaul it keep the basic block going much longer, that's possible.

    I think if you averaged out all the engine failures on all modern cars you'd hit something like 175K or so. Probably Japanese averages would be higher, but I'm only guessing.

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  • complex1complex1 Posts: 13
    Hi!

    How would you estimate this car, if the engine is in good condition, the car was maintained well. Body has some rust. The middle tube of the exhaust system is going to rust out soon, and probably clutch also is gonna be replaced soon.

    Thanks.
  • I often received comments from mechanics and shops that the 86 prelude I have is not built the same way as the newer prelude. What do they really mean by that ? I realized that for example Ford changed to lot of plastic parts in the up-to-date design to reduce cost. Is that what people really mean ? The mid 80's Honda is well built but what did Honda do differently since then ? You would expect with more advanced technology, car should get better and last longer, not the opposite ? Any thought ?

    Russell
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,781
    I don't know what they mean. They might not even know what they mean. Besides you can't compare old and new because age is a factor as much as mileage and also contributes to a car's deterioration.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    So I'm driving home from the Yankees game tonight, cruise set at a touch under 70 on the highway. All of the sudden my Check Engine Light goes on followed by the ATTS light. I came home and checked for the obvious.

    Turns out I didn't tighten my gas cap when I filled up last night. Owner's manual says the light will go off in 2 or 3 driving trips.

    It looked like my left front tire was a bit soft (slow leak) which would cause the ATTS light to turn on maybe. Manual says it is OK to drive with the ATTS light on, I just won't have ATTS.

    If it stays on. I'm bringing the car in next week for service.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • timothyawtimothyaw Posts: 148
    I had a similar issue with my prelude. I was driving down the freeway and my check engine light and ATTS light comes on. Of course its fine to drive the car, its just that you won't have ATTS. Well I took the car to the dealer and they found out that my gas cap wasn't sealing well and that caused the check engine and ATTS light to come on. I'm the type to make SURE my gas cap is on tightly. So it wasn't my failure to tighten it, it was just a bad cap. So they replaced it no charge under warranty :) And I've been wearing the crap out of ATTS since then lol!
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    I once experienced the same problem - gas cap too.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    mine definitely isn't sealing right. Is there some sort of metal flap that gets pushed back when you fill up? When I take the gas cap off, it looks like I could see right into the tank.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • uwakuuwaku Posts: 1
    Hello, all! I'm new to the board (obviously) and wanted to say hi. Also, I have a '99 base 'Lude, 5-speed, Milano Red, about to hit 69k. At 48,153, the car stalled not two blocks from the dealership while on my way to the airport. They replaced the timing belt & tensioner, and because I had a third-party warranty (I bought the car used at 42,687 a few months prior) the dealership took care of it. Total cost was $382.30, but no cost to me.

    I've only had two other mechanical issues. One was that I got the infamous P0133 O2 sensor slow bank 1 sensor 1 code when my check engine light came on. The second was a short time when the passenger door lock motor kept cycling. I'd accelerate and the lock kept tripping. Probably a bad motor, but it's only done it a few times, and not lately. Anyone have any info on these issues?

    As for my Prelude, the only two reasons I've ever considered not keeping it are these: it's too short (I bump my head on the roof because I refuse to do a gangsta lean, and I prefer to be as high as possible so I can actually SEE the road), and, like the Accord, the cup holders are placed exactly where my elbow wants to be when shifting. Other than that, it's perfect. The combination of power, comfort, safety, and of course style makes it one of the best sports cars on the road, and yes, I do consider it a sports car (as do the constant line of kids who want to race me at stoplights... must be the paint job).

    I've never really opened her up, but she's hit 105. Not ten minutes later, though, I got tagged by a Florida Trooper in an airplane who said I'd been doing 94. $175 for that ticket, but I was actually happy to get it at that rate... };-)

    Anyway, looking forward to reading all your comments & learning more about my baby.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    Milano Red... Kick A$$ color (same as my '01 Type SH). Your car looks great! Is that a recent photo?

    Maybe my color got me picked out and got me my first ticket ever (in my 10 years of driving) about a year and a half ago. Stupid NYC cop gave me a ticket for going 70 in a 50.

    I guess the cupholders do get in the way, but I never use them. I usually just drink H2O and tighten the cap and throw it on the seat next to me.

    As far as roof height goes, I love the "chopped" look of the Prelude's roof. You don't have to do a gangsta lean to be comfy. Just tilt the seat back a little further then you normally would. Also make sure the bottom of the seat is all the way down.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • kenjabikenjabi Posts: 76
    I go out to my Prelude this morning to go to work, and what do I see? My car had been egged! Some punks went around the neighborhood and egged (seemingly) random cars. However, I was fortunate because: A) They only used one egg, B) The egg was mostly on the windshield, with only a little on the paint, and C) It was still "fresh" and hadn't dried yet, so I was able to take it off with some effort and wet rags.

    But man, that's a horrible way to start the day! :(
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    No respect, ludes don't get no respect :(

    I saw a rare sight: two Type SHs following each other on the highway. A silverstone and a black.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    So today I'm driving home from work and glance down at my gauge cluster to check my speed and notice that my ATTS light & CEL are no longer illuminated. I'm still going to tell the dealer about it and have them run a diagnostic.

    Well, those of us with a Prelude Type SH love our ATTS and how it enhances the cornering charachteristics of an already brilliant handling car. We all thought that the technology went to waste when our beloved Prelude was cut from Honda's lineup and Acura fitted their CL Type S (and the new TL) with a true LSD. I read a very interesting tidbit on Acura's new AWD system (July 2004 Car and Driver, Page 36) that will debut on the '05 RL. The new nomenclature fro the system will be called SH-AWD (Super Handling All Wheel Drive, but you figured that out already:). It uses electromagnetic clutches using a variety of inputs and can send power to either or both rear wheels as needed. So in addition to using a front/rear AWD split, the system can transfer power from side to side in the rear. They said they were actually able to make the car rotate around a corner . Check it out, it is quite an interesting little blurb.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • timothyawtimothyaw Posts: 148
    Nope nyccarguy, there is no metal flap like in the older cars.
  • timothyawtimothyaw Posts: 148
    I was reading the same article, I have to think Honda is in the top group of companies (Porshe, BMW,Audi,MB) when it comes to excellent handling cars. This new system seems to only up the ante. But the handling of my Prelude never ceases to amaze me!
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    I got my car back yesterday and it is tight and good as new thanks to an alignment, tire rotation, & balance The lights on were as suspected: Check engine was on from when I didn't tighten the gas cap and the ATTS light was on because one of my tires was low. I love driving my Prelude!

    While the Prelude was being fixed I got to tool around in an '04 Civic LX for a 2 days. Lots of room on the inside for such a small car. The engine was anemic, but I still got it up to 80 and was cruising...not bad. It seemed soild though. A great starting point for the RSX.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    Among the drag racing import crowd, the H22A found in our 5th generation Preludes is the king of Honda VTEC Inline 4s (I guess the 93-96 OBD I is better). There are a few guys that park in the garage where I work with tricked out civics who are always admiring my car. Today they asked for a glimpse under the hood. They marveled at the size of the H22A (almost like a big block Corvette from back in the day). One guy has a '92 Civic Hatchback with an engine from the '99 Civic Si (B16c?) and another has a Civic hatchback with the motor from a 1st generation CR-V (B20) with some modifications. The were telling me how they were racing a '99 Civic Si with an H22A (in the B20 Civic) and they had him by about 4 car lengths in the 1/4 mile, but then the H22A Civic Coupe just pulled away from them and was way ahead by the time a mile came around.

    THey're always telling me that I should do this and that to my car. I just tell them I don't want it to be undrivable for everyday commuting and highway trips (plus I don't want to waste the money). They were shcoked when I told them how well the Prelude cruises on the highway.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • cowboy019cowboy019 Posts: 17
    Anyone else experience this? When surpassing ~4500 rpm in third, I can feel the car shudder/hesitate/pull. Not a very pleasant feeling. Other gears seem to be fine, I can go right to redline in 2nd, but in 3rd, the car can't seem to take it.

    Any ideas what's going on???

    ('01 SE)
  • Hi all,
    Anybody knows about a cheaper source for buying crush washer ? A lot of the seal are made by crushing the washer but the cost is around $2.50 to $3.00 a piece at the dealer. ANy suggestion for a place selling this at a lower cost. I do not use them often, only when I work with brakes and fuel filter. Just curious. Thanks.

    Russell
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    So I always thought the imobilizer system in our Preludes was somewhat of a joke. I went to an import night on Thursday and got talking to some really cool people with a vast knowledge of cars. I was talking to a guy who told me that the Imobilizer system in the Prelude is amazingly effective (far superior to the one in the Integra) and that there is no known way around it. Basically if somebody wants to steal the Prelude for its precious H22A motor then they'd have to tow it away.

    The import night was cool. I met a few Prelude drivers from the area. And everyone I spoke to raised an eyebrow at some point in a conversation when I mentioned I had an '01 Type SH. The Prelude commands lots of respect.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • timothyawtimothyaw Posts: 148
    I always wondered whether the Imobilizer unit could live up to what it said it could do. This makes me feel a little better anyway.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    I remember once stopping by a Pizza Hut to pick up a pizza, just as a guy and girl were leaving. Thirty seconds later the girl walks back in and says "excuse me sir, is that your car?" and I said "yes" and she left again. Then a minute later she came back into the pizza place (2nd time) and said "I just wanted to say that you have a really cool car!" and left for the third time. I thought it was pretty funny. Discerning eyes do pay attention to Prelude SHs...

    I test drove the MT Acura TL and TSX a week ago. the TL did not impress me - it's a fantastic car, but just felt so heavy, particularly with the manual. I wasn't shifting very cleanly. I wonder about the purpose of a MT in such a refined car.

    The TSX on the other hand really impressed me. It had handling dynamics very, very similar to the Prelude. The motor felt the same, acceleration felt about the same, etc. NVH was the same too--same levels of feedback. Gearbox even had the same shift knob as the S2000. Interior was worlds better, it has real back seats, honestly it struck me as a four-door Prelude. I urge Prelude owners to check out this car if they are looking for more room within the TSX's price range.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    So I took my Prelude on a nice road trip these past few days with my newly installed Thule bike rack, 2 bikes, fiancee, and luggage (replacing the one that was stolen last year) from our home in Westchester County, NY to Owings Mills, MD to Leesburgh, VA and back. Every time I take the Prelude on a long trip, I'm amazed at how well it eats up the open road for a car that handles tight curves so well.

    I hit 30,000 miles last night!

    MY Check engine light and ATTS light went on again a day before my trip. I thought they'd reset themselves like they did last time, but they didn't. I dropped the car off at my dealer and had them change the oil as well.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    So I guess it was a combination of the bikes on the roof (extra weight + poor aerodynamics), my AC, and Check engine light, but I got just awful gas mileage on the aforementioned road trip.

    22 mpg on the trip down and 18 on the way back up.

    I was driving all highway with the A/C on (raining), the bike rack, 2 bikes, between 70 & 80 mph.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • kenjabikenjabi Posts: 76
    Yikes, that is pretty bad. I get better than 22 mpg when all I do on a tank is commute (suburban driving). I hope it was just because of the weight and everything, and not something more serious.

    And speaking of rain, I live in MD (sounds like you drove through my neck of the woods), and we've had some horrendous rain the last couple days. One thing I've noticed is that, after some rain, water starts to puddle on the black plastic piece on the bottom of the door jambs. Since it's not exposed to the air when the door is shut, it stays wet for a long time. Is this normal, or is it a sign that the door is maybe not closing tightly enough? I have a 99 with ~66K miles.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    The problem with my ATTS light and Check Engine Light were due to my oil fill cap that was not sealing correctly. They replaced my oil fill cap under warranty.

    The owner's manual also suggested that I replace the AC Micron filter. So I had that done in addition to the oil change.

    So I'm switching to Castrol Syntec permanently. After running Mobil 1 Synthetic for the entire life of the car, last fill up I decided to switch. The Castrol didn't seem to burn any over the past 4K miles or so. It still looked like it had some life left in it , but it was time for an oil change anyway.

    Prelude drives great! 30,200 smiles and still going strong!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    I got an interesting letter from my dealer the other day. It said that they are looking to aquire several 01 Honda Preludes to fulfill special used vehicle requests. They'll either buy my car outright or take it as a trade-in.

    So I called the dealership up just to see if this was a ploy to get people into new cars. He said yes and no. Obviously they'd like nothing more than to sell new Hondas to their customers. He also told me that they are opening up a pre-owned (read: used) car center adjacent to the current dealership.

    I'm going to bring my car by to them to see what they'd give me for it.

    I can't sell it though. There really is nothing out there right now that I "gotta have" priced within reason (for me). I do own the Prelude and love the fact that all I need to pay for is gas and maintenance is attractive. BMW is offering 1.9% financing for 60 months on 3ers right now. I know the 3 series is going to be redone next year with more powerful engines. Rules out the 325for me and if I'm opting for a 330, then I have to get the Performance Package! What's a car nut to do?

    There is nothing in the current Honda lineup that interests me.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • sphinx99sphinx99 Posts: 776
    Aw c'mon, get a S2000 :)

    Seriously, I would be interested to know what they offer you...
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    worth a car wash and a ride over there after work on Saturday to find out.

    I did a search on Honda's site for Certified Preludes with Manual transmissions within a 250 mile radius of my zip code. There are 3 (I'm sure there are others, just not registered on the Honda site), 2 base models & 1 Type SH. Now obvoiusly the dealer has got lots of wiggel room with these cars as they make a bigger markup on used cars, but not too shabby:

    '01 Silver Prelude 27,500 miles $16,995
    '01 Black Prelude 33,900 miles $20,995
    '01 Blue Type SH 56,156 miles $19,999

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,536
    Funny you should mention the S2000. My fiancee and I have been talking lately that when her school loan is paid off and her car is paid off within the next year and a half that we'd try to keep our cars (my Prelude and her Protege) for a while and buy a convertible for a 3rd car to always have. We were thinking along the lines of a leftover Z4 3.0i or Boxster.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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