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Kia Rondo



  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    yes this same question is being discussed on another forum also, but the Korean factory built 2,853 Carens/Rondo's in July for export (don't have August figures yet), so something must be happening.
    But like you I can't seem to find anything anywhere on what the changes for 2010 Rondo are going to be. KIA said they are going to change the whole lineup by 2012 and by that time the Borrego will be the oldest vehicle in the pack. You would think there would be hints of some changes as you seem to know all about the other models.

    Own: 2008 Rondo EX, 2.4 for 22 months
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    i just noticed that some of the other Rondo have a lockable fuel filler lid (close flat and has to be opened from inside pulling a latch), but mine is not lockable.
    is this new to the 09 model or is it only available to certain trim?

    09 Rondo EX 7-seater I4
  • I have it on my 07 EX V6.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    the lockable fuel filler lid was opened by pushing a button on the drivers door, this was only on the '07 and '08 models. It was changed to the none lockable type for '09.

    '08 Rondo EX, 5-seater, 2.4L (Canadian)
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    i wonder why the change.
    i'm not able to find a lockable cap from Canadian Tire, any recommendation?
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    they keep changing bits of things each year - but why they go backwards is beyond me! The '07 was the best equipped model for the little things.

    Can't help you on a lockable cap, but there is other auto stores besides Cdn Tire. What's the dealer say? I've never had the need for one, even all my other vehicles that had non-lockable cap covers - never was an issue.

    Canadian - '08 Rondo EX, 2.4L

    (when is this site ever going to get upto date with other forums and allow signatures and profiles that show up with each posting - its the only forum that I belong too that is so backward in this respect - its a pain! They said over a year ago it was going to change but nothings happened yet!)
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    as of the end of September '09, the only models made at the China factory are the Pride (Rio), Cerato, Forte, Optima, Carnival, and Sportage, no indication yet on the Carens.
  • I am not sure if 07 or 08 models are better in the US. Here are the main feature differences that I consider important:

    07 Rondo has:
    Cargo light
    Glove box light
    Better cup holder

    08 Rondo has:
    Trip computer
    Aux audio input

    Anyway, the 09 model seems to be the worse among the 3. Nevertheless, new features are added to the 2010.
  • Does anybody know of a supplier for a cold air intake for the Rondo?
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    in the 09 Rondo owner's manual, the recommended oil change interval is 8000km (5000 miles) in normal driving condition.

    Fram has an Xtended Gard oil filter, the oil change interval is 16,000km (10,000 miles) with synthetic oil.

    is anyone using synthetic oil who can provide some recommendation, and will this cause any problem with the factory warranty?

  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    Does anyone know why the recommended oil change interval isn't the same for US and Cdn version Rondo?

    according to their respective owner's manuals:
    US : 7,500 miles (12,000km) or 1 year
    CDN: (5,000 miles) 8,000km or 4 months

  • I'm using fluid rated for minus 20F. I had to put a couple of ziplock bags filled with hot water on the nozzles to get them to thaw out. There was no ice covering the nozzles or anything. A half an hour later they unfroze. The back nozzle started working after the front nozzles unfroze. I'm not sure how that worked.

    Temperatures have been in the teens and projected to get 5 to 10 below zero later this week,

    Pretty hazardous situation. Wondering if I should invest in a heater for the fluid?
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    I would suspect the number one reason to change more often is the warm up cycle which will take longer in colder climate. Mixture is richer during warmup and blow-by will condense in cold oil.
    Because of the extreme temperature change during warm up I'd definitely consider an engine heater even if changing every 4 months. Constantly cycling through the extremes would add to metal fatigue.

    I have a new Malibu and living in southern GA. The computer determines when to change, but as of now it looks like that will be about 12,000 miles and I will make the one year mark first. I'm sure I'll change earlier though.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    It sounds like you forgot to flush the system with the new fluid. Or maybe you did not get what you paid for?
  • Or maybe you did not get what you paid for?

    That could be the case. I'd love to find a flat heater to mount under the area with a switch inside.
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    wow, 12,000 miles, that'a amazing!

    in the warmer months, with 60/40 city/hwy driving, my Venture's (3.4 V6) oil life monitor would indicate to change oil at around 7,000km (4,000 miles).

    Chevy is just like the Rondo, i believe the US/Cdn versions have different programming for the oil change interval.

    i'm switching to full synthetic next time i change the oil, hope i'll have time to send a sample to oil analysis to determin the proper oil change interval. i want to be good to the environment.

  • rmblroyrmblroy Posts: 4
    I just joined this forum because my fiance just purchased an '08 Rondo. Unfortunately it didn't come with fog lights, which is a handy option up here in Wisconsin. I acquired OEM fog lights and bezel blanking covers before I discovered that the Rondo puts the switch in the turn signal arm.
    Has anyone here installed an aftermarket switch? If so where? Any/all advice on this would be most appreciated.

    fyi--I advocated for the purchase. I really like the Rondo's roominess and elegant simplicity. It reminds me of my AWD Honda Element.
  • rmblroyrmblroy Posts: 4
    IMO synthetic is the way to go, its proven to me to simply work better because I also ride Harley-Davidsons. On my air-cooled V-twins, running synthetic actually lowers my engines temperature.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    I have a '08 EX Rondo with the factory fog lights. In my own experience I really haven't found any necessity to need them (I thought it was a good thing to have when I bought it). I find the regular low beam with the distinctive cut-off and wide spread seems to do a terrific job - works great in heavy snow too.
    Have you tested them in your local fog first?

    my location: Ontario, Canada
  • 93949394 Posts: 67

    i agree with conwelpic, mine has factory fog lights and to be honest with you, they don't make your visibility any better in those foggy nights.

    after talking to my friends they also have same experience (with different makes and models), i can only say they make your car look better, not the driver.

    having said that, after market fog lights with a yellowish tint may be different ?
    according to law of physics, lights closer to the red end of the spectrum do penetrate better through the atomosphere.

  • rmblroyrmblroy Posts: 4
    IMO regular oil changes are the cheapest engine insurance possible. I wouldn't go past 4K miles even with the synthetic I use. I'm sure the owner's manual recommendation is sufficient to keep the engine going till the end of the warranty period. But, I'm also certain they're not gonna put a new mill in if it breaks later.
  • rmblroyrmblroy Posts: 4
    Any experience and/or recommendations
  • castg1castg1 Posts: 34
    i agree with conwelpic, mine has factory fog lights and to be honest with you, they don't make your visibility any better in those foggy nights.

    In foggy weather, I noticed incoming cars are easily seen when their foglights are on. For this reason, I turn on my foglights. To be seen by incoming vehicles.
  • e_net_ridere_net_rider Posts: 1,380
    Another example of idiots in Detroit. As you stated, the shorter wave length of light penetrates fog better, far better than white light of which much will be reflected back blinding the driver. Red near infra-red would be best but red is only legal on the back. So the next best would be a near red Amber.
    Also, I hate those yellow lights on the back. Red is the only color that does not cause night blindness and that is why it is used on aircraft carriers during night operations.
  • Has anyone replaced the fuel filter in a 2007 V6 Rondo?
    Mechanic told me it's in the fuel tank!! :(
  • Some drivers are using fog lights for regular driving. It's very blinding to older drivers and is being considered for a policing ban when there is no fog; by some locales in NA (North American)..
  • 93949394 Posts: 67
    i find that the HID lights are even worse, they are making driving at night, especially rainy night a hazard for all the drivers with regular halogen lights.

  • eveyevey Posts: 1
    We bought a 2010 Kia Rondo with tan interior and have found the seats stain from raindrops if you don't close the door quickly, snow if it happens to fall on the seats, and some water from a water bottle that tipped. I have never had any vehicle do this. I left a white towel on it to absorb the water bottle stain. It stained the towel brown. Took the kids sleigh riding, some snow on their coats made the seat belts run and stain. Part of the seat belt is now a darker tan. We are not happy at all with spending money on a 2010 vehicle and having it look like it is 10 years old in 4 months. We are taking it to the dealership to have an inspection done, which the results then go to the district manager, and then to Kia. We will see where we get with this, but obviously Kia has not addressed their upholstery fabric issue since 2008.
  • ofionnachtaofionnachta Posts: 36
    When we bought our 09 gray Rondo, I would not let anyone use it until I had sprayed the cloth seats with Scotchgard 3x. I thought the fabric looked like it would stain easily. Also, I had read things on these forums.

    But, I wd have done the Scotchgard route anyway. I have been a big fan of the stuff ever since I sprayed it on a white purse (to be used by dau at a wedding) and water just beaded up & ran off it.

    It has been working well for me & I have been driving it more than a year.
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