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Toyota Camry Hybrid: Ordering Process

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
edited March 19 in Toyota
Have your ordered your Camry Hybrid? Talk about options and wait time here!

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  • lycheelychee Posts: 1
    Just put an order in with my dealer. Here's the MSRP pricing he quoted:

    Base 25900
    Destination 580
    ---
    Base model cost 26480

    Navigation 1200
    Sunroof 940
    Leather 1300
    Convenience 470
    ---
    Fully loaded 30390
  • lanceqlanceq Posts: 16
    What about floor mats?
  • My dealer told me that the minor things like floor mats, rims, dang "toyo-guard" are added at your regional distribution center. All Toyotas here in the SE stop in Jacksonville FL and that's where they add on the last-minute stuff.
  • Is the $712 "Southeast Toyota Administration Charge" that is tacked onto each Toyota sold in the Southeast a negotiable fee? Is there a comparable fee in other regions? If not, why would anyone in the Southeast not go to another region to buy their Toyota?

    Thanks -
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It's called TDA in the other regions.. an explanation of it is all over these forums in one place or another. If you can negotiate it away on a hybrid Camry we have an opening for you to settle the mess in the MidEast.

    It's a valid charge that the dealer has to pay to the regional office. They have no choice in the matter.
  • Everything is negotiable. The only other comparable fee I'm aware of is in the Gulf States Region. These two areas, Gulf States and SET, are run by independent distributors, hence the fees. Worse yet is the above mentioned add-ons. Toyo-Guard! Woo hoo, paint sealant and sound dampening!

    I've heard horror stories of vehicles purchased in the Gulf States region, where the common practice is to "upgrade" the vehicle with alloy wheels that are in fact a non-OEM copy of the original Toyota wheel. They are usually easy to spot since the center cap doens't have the Toyota logo on it. Now the fun part comes in, if you ever try to get warranty work done on one of those wheels (out of balance, clearcoat peeling, etc) Toyota tells you no way since they are not a genuine Toyota part.
  • tamaritamari Posts: 7
    I just got on a wait list at a local dealership for my TCH. They required a $500 non-refundable deposit. Has anyone not had to put down an non-refundable deposit? Also, I've been told price will be MSRP, with no negotiation. I expected that, since there is a wait list. Anyone had any different info? I'm just glad the price won't be above MSRP!

    I'm trying to get a fully loaded one, except without navigation system. I think you got it almost exact on your prices.
  • bmgoodmanbmgoodman Posts: 102
    Non-refundable? I think I would have found a new dealer. It isn't like he would EVER get stuck with a TCH just "sitting" unwanted on his lot. Come on--this dealership is taking you for a ride.

    I put down a refundable deposit at 2 dealerships. One actually put the $500 on my CC, the other just xeroxed my card as a "good faith" thing.

    With your non-refundable deposit, if you chose NOT to get the car, you should be able to sell your "spot" in line to someone else for $500, if you ask me! If I were you, I would be worried that they will NEVER get in a TCH fully loaded without NAV. At least in the mid-Atlantic, those constitute less than 1% of the allocations!
  • We placed our order on the 14th, and received the same quote on our fully loaded titanium metallic (30,390). Dealer didn't require a deposit. He did say he had no idea as to when to expect it, but he thought realistically, perhaps around July.
  • tamaritamari Posts: 7
    Thanks for the reply. Maybe the dealer simply meant the $500 was to reserve my spot on the wait list. I agree that if I choose not to buy it, I should be able to "sell" my spot to someone else for $500.00. I will check it out with dealer, and I'll also check to see if they've run the money through the credit card. Another local dealer didn't require a deposit, but said that when the cars come in, they would call people on the list, at which point people would have to pony up a grand to keep their spot. Don't know what to make of all of it, but would like to hear others' experiences.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    This is typical of low volume, high interest vehicles of all makes. It's been in place for 3 years on the Prius. $500 is standard on a $20K-something vehicle.

    Dealerships are not in business to scam $500 off customer deposits. The term non-refundable is a poor choice of words so I'd clarify what it means but as you can see from most posts here dealerships try to be fair and not take money up front from customers until they know more definite information on pricing, delivery and availability.

    Over the past 3 yrs large dealerships which have done significant business in Prius' have likely had as many as 20-150 'deposits' in hand waiting for the vehicles to arrive. In these cases buyers have often been on 2 or 3 wait lists with 2 or 3 deposits 'pending'.

    Just call and ask specifically what it means at the store where you left the deposit. If you're still uncomfortable then cancel it.
  • lawguy661lawguy661 Posts: 17
    I placed an order for mine last week. I asked for the dark silver, with all the options. At the time, the dealer could not give me a price, nor could he give me an estimate as to delivery. I do know that I am number 11 on the list. I made a $500 refundable deposit.
  • bjoh11bjoh11 Posts: 3
    This is my first post.. so here goes. Three weeks ago I wrote a $500 check to a rural MN dealership and they report I am second in line for a TCH--- they state they will not cash the check until I buy my vehicle and they have not done so--check requested as a "show of faith" and I can back out if I want. They say they have another list of individuals interested but not writing a check...those who leave a deposit will be called first- thought I have nothing to lose.

    They report they will sell the car at MSRP without dealer add ons. Confirmed this with a friend who bought a Prius at the same dealership at popularity height- so I would not expect any change in this. Sounds like they have little control over the vehicle color or options in their initial allocations. My salesman reports the individual in line ahead of me will take whatever car first arrives regardless of configuration. I will choose first from there according to my dealer and they will call as they learn what they can get. Don't need the vehicle immediately but will expect/hope to buy before the Sept 30th re tax deadline :shades:

    I was hoping for silver with nav- no leather or sunroof- sounds like this will not happen. Other posts seem to indicate Nav only in loaded cars?? Never had a car with leather- although they look and smell great I find them cold in the winter and burning bare skin in the summer--- for sure I cannot do a sunroof- I am 6'7" and barely fit as it is...believe it or not- I do fit with acceptable comfort sans moonroof. :surprise:

    Seems like this is as good a deal as can be done given the market. Dealership is small with good local rep.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Everything you posted sounds on the up and up so I think you are protected.

    The sunroof issue might be a major issue to getting one sooner rather than later. As I understand it there will be 3 configurations:

    'Base' : Std Eq + heated O/S mirrors
    'Middle' : Std Eq + heated O/S mirrors + Sunroof
    'Loaded' : Everything on it
    Pricing is not official yet, just good suppositions.

    This may change later in the year or next year but to qualify by Sept 30th I'd take the 'Base' trim since the other options are not important to you.

    We have two coming in on our first allocation:
    one base trim
    one loaded trim
  • stj4stj4 Posts: 27
    Hello

    This is my first post, and I am quite excited to put up this post.

    I got VIN # today for teh TCH coming for me(in the midwest) The dealer is getting 1 car. The dealership was not taking any advances, but had my $500 with them from a prior order which I was able to use for this.

    Car should come mid may. Base verson, silver color. I will pay MSRP.

    I will keep it updated if there is an interest from the listeners.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Wow, Congrats.. the first one I've seen to get a VIN on a TCH. You'll love it.

    Trophy and ribbon to follow. :)
  • I am on the waitlist at Fitzmall, and was told today that they expect to begin receiving the first Camry Hybrids in late May. I was also told that they will be selling them at MSRP at their "Internet Price".
  • bullymombullymom Posts: 2
    Just got back from Maroone Toyota in Davie, FL. Discussed the TCH loaded,including Nav,(except I don't want the sunroof) and was given a price of $30403. When he gave me the invoice, in a black pen was written +$2995. I asked what that meant and he said all the dealers are doing it because it's a limited version of a car and the demand is high. He said some dealers are even charging more. Needless to say, I didn't put down a deposit. Is anyone else seeing this? Oh he said none had been built yet and they don't expect them for three months.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    We are not.. Two are coming to us at ~$30500 +/- ( incl SR ) but no addendums. It's often a regional perception of the market. We have not had any addendums on the Prius' either for the last 3 yrs.
  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    Just a typical uninformed car salesman.
  • The Ocala, FL dealership (delucatoyota.com) does not put surcharges on their hybrids but does charge MSRP. Unfortunately, as of the beginning of April, there were 16 people on their TCH waiting list (I'm #2). Who knows how many are on it now with $3.00/gallon gas. They also requested a $1000 refundable down payment (which I had no problem with).

    They are responsive to my emails, and after I wrote about the VIN#s for TCH's in the pipeline (care of this forum) they responded with "There are a very small amount of Hybrid Camry's that are in the pipeline. We, however, did not earn one. I expect to have one in our pipeline come May 4th." I hope that it's one that I would want (loaded), and that Mr. or Mrs. #1 on the list doesn't want it....LOL
  • jph3006jph3006 Posts: 49
    Hi All: The TCH looks great and the one write up I have see on the car looks outstanding. However, with Toyota limiting Camry production to 7% hybrids, 93% non-hybrids for 2007, I cannot see a reasonable deal taking place with Toyota, so I'm buying another new car.

    I live in the southeast and hate the regional distributor mark-up and game; and to buy a hybrid, I must play it.

    Having previously been in sales management in the car business, I ask you who must put deposits down to use a credit card and get in writing the refundable nature of the deposit. It is a ticket for a dealer to add on many profitable surcharges to your deal.
  • dbspeerdbspeer Posts: 1
    Yesterday I ordered a TCH at Thompson Toyota in Doylestown, PA. They said they weren't offering anything off of MSRP. Since I went there because it was in the Costco car purchase plan, I asked what was the discount for Costco members. They told me I would receive $500 off of MSRP. There was no dealer add on fees and my deposit is fully refundable. They seemed like a very legitimate, up and up dealership. I didn't expect any major deal on the price because of the hybrid situation, but the price for leather, moon roof, NAV, heated seats & mirrors was $30,480. The XLE with similar options I was considering would have been in the same range. No promises on delivery but I'm in no hurry.

    I'm satisfied....
  • I ordered a loaded Mag gray/ash TCH from Autopark of Fayetteville, AR for $500 off MSRP with no dealer fees (they usually charge $199 dealer doc & prep fee) on 4/21. I am #1 on the list. This dealer does not charge 'market fees' on 'hot' sellers - strictly first come, first served.

    I test drove the V6 XLE and was very impressed with the driving dynamics and comfort. Way too fast a car for me - I'd just get traffic tickets! The 'auto-stick' tranny very impressive.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I live in the southeast and hate the regional distributor mark-up and game; and to buy a hybrid, I must play it.

    I also live in SET territory but work in CAT territory. Why let a local annoyance keep you from having what you want? If a particular doctor annoyed you wouldn't you just move to another one elsewhere?

    You last paragraph was unclear. Why would anyone put a deposit on a vehicle unless all the terms were clear in advance?
  • The following may be helpful. The prices for CAT (Central Atlantic Toyota) region have been released for the Camry Hybrid. Initial dealer deliveries should begin around May 17.

    Pack #1 = FE, HM ( 50 States and Heated Outside Mirrors) with CF= Carpeted Floor Mats............MSRP $26,709.00

    Pack #2 = FE, HM, SR ( 50 States, Heated Outside Mirrors and Sun/Moon Roof) with CF, DK = Carpeted Floor Mats................................MSRP $27,649.00

    Pack #3 = FE, LA, NV, SR, CQ ( 50 States, Leather Package, Voice Activated DVD Navigation System, Sun/Moon Roof, Comfort and Convenience Package) with CF = Carpeted Floor Mats..................................MSRP $30,589.00
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Precisely correct. CAT btw 'strongly' advises the local stores against ADM addendums. The prices are what they are. Our first is due 5/13-15 then about 10 days later for the 2nd.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Spyder, which dealership do you work at?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    It's bad form here so I can't. See my profile if you'd like to contact me.
  • I just got my VIN! Went to my dealer tonight and what do you know a 2560 showed up on the inventory sheet.
    Don't know how my dealer pulled it off getting it exactly the way I wanted: Blue Ribbon/Ash, Heated Mirrors, and Floormats...

    I've seen alot of interest in Blue Ribbon lately on the boards, hope I didn't steal it from someone ;)

    Someone help me out on a projected delivery date for a KC region dealer. It says my ETA is PT0425.
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