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Honda Fit v. Hyundai Accent

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    You don't need to do anything on my account. We can just have different opinions on this. I just didn't appreciate your initial comments in which you said people who didn't agree with you were "stupid" and other derogatory adjectives. I am glad you are approaching this discussion more civilly now.

    If you don't hold Hyundai in high regard, fine. I know a lot of people don't. But there are people like me who think the Accent is a decent little car, and believe it or not it's not because we're stupid.
  • You are really taking away the credibility of Honda owners in here bud... meybe lighten up and don't be so hard on others. It's not a fight or a competition just because there is vs. in the title.

    I'm a Honda fan more than a Hyundai fan, so don't feel like I'm a Hyundai person ganging up on you, I'm not.

    BTW, I'm not just referring to this specific post I replied to.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    who think the Accent is a decent little car,

    The Accent SE with Sun and Sound package is a great small car. :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Hey, did you actually find one to drive?? That's been really hard for me. The nearest I could find anywhere in my area with an inventory search is one SE automatic, and I'd like to try the stick. I can live w/o the moonroof and optional sound system, but I'll bet it's fun.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Yes I did. It was an automatic, SE, with the moonroof and stereo package. Was located at a brand new Hyundai dealership that had moved into a failed Mitsubishi dealership's location. The Mitsu situation is a sad one. :(

    I was impressed with it. Wish they had a four door hatch version. For those who do not need the utility of the Fit I would suggest checking out the Accent SE. It was nicer than the Civic Si 2002 I used to own!

    Now, if the Elantra would only show up, that is what I really want to test.

    Regarding the Fit, the only thing I really would like to see is an optional sunroof or a model with a sunroof.

    The problem with the Accent SE is that the dealers do not want to discount it and it is difficult to justify the value of the Accent compared to a Elantra or Sonata.

    Same problem with a Fit compared to Civic or Accord.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    The Accent SE I test drove was wine red with gray interior.
    The gray interior did not appeal to me at all. It made the interior appear "cheaper" than the quality of materials would suggest and I suspect it would be difficult to keep clean.
    No Accent 3 door with black interior were available, therefore I was not able to evaluate the interior in black.
    My exterior choices would be silver or charcoal gray with black interior.

    Something that was interesting to me is that the Accent SE reminded me so much of the Honda Civic Si 3 door of the early 90's, only modernized. :blush:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    I saw a Civic hatch the other day and thought the same thing. The taillamps were almost the same shape on the two cars. The Civic was boxier in back and the front ends are different, but overall quite similar.

    I saw red with a black interior at an auto show and it looked too austere for my taste. But then I'm not a fan of black interiors in general, especially in small cars.
  • I too am having trouble finding an SE to drive. My dealer here has had me on a call list (2 months now) for when they get one in. They told me they may not get one this year. Jackson, MS area.

    The base hatchbacks they have are very nicely finished and are really sharp lookers.

    If any of you have found SE's, what areas are these showing up in?

    TIA
    Ray
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    There are plenty of SE's in the Chicago area. More than one at each dealer.
    The Fit, however, is sold out.
  • That figures, just a boat trip up the river I guess.

    I don't like the Fit. Just the opposite here, plenty of Fits on the lots. I've seen one on the road.
  • I'm just outside of Chicago. I test drove one last week (an SE hatch) and I fell in love. The Fit's ride and handling seems a lot more...econocar in comparison. The SE just seems perfect for me. The 16" alloys are really nice, too! I was planning on waiting for the Elantra, but I doubt it'll handle anywhere near as well as the SE. Now my only decision is if I'll spend a bit more and get the Versa with CVT since it supposedly has such great fuel economy. Decisions, decisions.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Take a look at the fuel economy discussion on the Versa here in Town Hall before buying one. The numbers aren't that great. Keep in mind the Versa is a much heavier car than the Fit or Accent.
  • I want the 2007 GS hatchback, but I want the SE wheels. Would they fit on the GS model? Or is the bolt pattern different on the SE than the GS?
  • cmkcmk Posts: 59
    Am I missing something or is cruise control not available on any trim level???
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Correct, factory cruise not available on any U.S. spec Accent.
  • cmkcmk Posts: 59
    how odd and unfortunate. I guess I should take it in stride, though, as I believe that all car manufacturers are conspiring against me making it impossible for me to find one car with the options I want.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    If you want cruise control for the Accent or for the base Fit then Rostra aftermarket cruise is probably the best choice of an aftermarket cruise control.
    $180 to $250 is range of good prices for the complete kit depending on make and model of vehicle.
  • I finally got to test drive the Blue honda fit (not the sport) and there were some things I like and some things I don't.

    But I want to point out that this is a Honda Fit Vs. Hyundai Accent thread. I currently own a Hyundai Accent and I will try and be as non-bias as possible.

    The Honda Fit, by far, is the most spacious small car I have ever been in. The "Magic" seats aren't as magic as I thought. The folding flat seats are amazing but the fact that you have to push the front seats forward, loosing your driving position, is kind of an issue. I will say that there is a canyon of cargo space to be had in the Honda Fit, and really quite none in the Hyundai Accent. I found a picture of an accent with four golf club bags and I have actually put a golf club in the car and there wasn't ample space for it. I really do not think that 4 would fit comfortably.

    Next is the rear wiper issue. I can understand that they might not have changed it when they went from RHD to LHD but regardless of that little issue, the Rear wiper swipes 1/4th of a circle (on the opposite side you should see). The visibility really is quite bad. The Accent's does a 180 and actually swipes a nice visible area.

    Adjustable seats, a dead pedal...Things that Honda has and just hasn't incorporated them into the Fit. They are very nice things in the Accent, and if Honda brings them will be equal, but for the matter at hand Accent has them and Fit does not.

    I decided, vanity mirrors are not that big of an issue. Lit vanity mirrors are quite nice things to have. So far I have yet to see an economy car with them other then the Accent (though upon my searches that was not on the to-look--for list). Honda has one mirror on the driver side. A minor inconvenience, but if your paying for a car and one has dual lit mirrors and the other has a single non lit mirror, it is a nice thing to have dual.

    Heated mirrors are something I only thought came in high end cars. Hyundai incorporated them into the Accent and I decided that from now on I will not own a car that does not have heated mirrors. I got to test drive the Honda Fit in the morning after a fine mist of water had settled, and got a chance to use the defrost. As I was getting ready to drive away, I realized I could not even see out of my mirrors and had to roll down the windows and wipe the mirrors off. It is very nice to have heated mirrors. A HUGE concern as well with the honda is the fact that you have to adjust two of your four dash vents to point towards the windows just to defrost them. I thought that almost all new cars would have their own defrost vents that are stationary towards the windows, however I was wrong. The Hyundai Accent has them, the Honda Fit does not.

    Again I want to point out that I am only putting the facts down. These are all things the Honda Fit and the Hyundai Accent have and don't have. I hope that the things I have written are as non-bias as I can be.

    Oh and I also want to point out that as far as tuners go as well as people who don't fancy factory stereo's people will have a very hard time changing the factory stereo in the Fit. The accents is flat and is the right size for 2 standard stereo' s. The Fit has a factory made dash that is not a standard stereo size. So with a 1997 Ford Taurus having that same problem, and seeing my brother buy the large plastic insert to make it a standard size stereo, I believe that the Honda Fit with an aftermarket stereo would look quite awkward.

    I would love to test drive the Fit Sport and really get to judge the two in a performance level, however it will be quite a while before I will be able to test drive a Fit Sport.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    It's true that Hyundai and Kia have more comfort features than Honda & Toyota, but how do you compare the actual driving, handling, braking, road noise, quality, etc between the two? What did you think in your test drive?

    Also, I don't believe you lose the front seat position when you use the lever on top of the front seats to move them forward, or you can take off the rear headrests and then you don't have to move the front seats at all.

    Does the Accent come in a 4dr hatch version?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,805
    Does the Accent come in a 4dr hatch version?

    The hatch version is 2 doors only (and I am waiting to see if they do come out with the 200hp version :blush: )

    Currently Hyundai doesn't make any 4 door hatchbacks, but very soon you should see an Elantra Hatchback.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Hyundai does make 4-door hatchbacks--we just don't get them in the U.S. :(

    accentuate, thanks for the review. You hit on a few things missing on the Fit, primarily the driving position and seat adjustments, that keep me from putting the Fit at the top of my list. I too would be interested in your test-drive notes, since you own an Accent so you can give us a good comparison with the Fit.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,805
    Hyundai does make 4-door hatchbacks--we just don't get them in the U.S.

    O.K. I stand corrected.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    Was it an older hatch? I think someone else said that it reminded them of a much older civic si. Hyundai seems to have a trend of emulating old honda's. The current sonata looks like they stole the but off of the 02-05 accord, and mixed a litte of the previous generation as well. I guess they are keeping up the trend with the accent.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    as far as 'tuners' go, anyone wanting to up the performance on a car would probably take the stereo out, it's just extra weight so that is irrelevant. For an unbiased fit review, you sure did only focus on what features the fit lacked, a definite issue for the fit ofcourse, but i would have liked to see a bit more performance numbers. But i agree about not being able to find a sport to test drive easy at all!
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    wow i've been gone for so long i didn't realize how serious everyone was taking me! That's kinda funny! Oh and i'm sure i'm not taking any kind of credibility from honda owners. I think it would take a lot more than a few 'bad mood' posts to do that. :shades:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    There's only so many ways to pen a 3-door hatch. The fact that the taillamps on the Accent hatch are remindful of the Civic hatch from a few years back doesn't mean Hyundai copied an old Civic. Can you imagine the discussion at Hyundai's HQ: "Hey, let's copy the taillamps from an old Civic because people will think the Accent is... an old Civic. Oh. Never mind!" And if Hyundai did intentionally emulate the Accord's rear styling, all I can say is that they certainly improved on it!
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    again subjective. Why don't they just make up something new and original? Anyway backster, i don't think i ever called you stupid. and when someone says something totally wrong(like saying the fit is a stripper, offers nothing and has no leather wrapped steering wheel) it usally can be counteracted with the proper info. Maybe i didn't HAVE to say that;...but it certainly was not unjustified.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    There is ways galore! Tons of different styles in the euro market with brands like clio, puegot and alpha romeo, not to mention volkswagens unending slew of hatchbacks like the golf rabbit gti. Hondas styles have all looked different as well.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    ha. yeah real knee slapper.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    You are stupid. Maybe you have always been this way, but you certainly have no problems slapping your silly opinions around.

    That is what you said. Insults like that are never justified in this forum. If you think they are, I suggest you re-read the Town Hall Membership Rules. If that doesn't change your mind, then maybe our Host can help you out there.

    Please find and post here where I said the Fit is a stripper and offers nothing. Also please find a link that shows a leather wrapped steering wheel as standard equipment on a base Fit. And if you wonder why I like to compare the Accent SE to the base Fit, it's because they are very close in price. How would you like it if I compared the Fit Sport to a car that cost over $1000 more--something like a Rabbit maybe? Do you think that would be fair?
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