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Honda Fit Real World MPG

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  • I've been trying really hard to keep it under the 3000rpm mark (not perfect), and trying to coast as much as possible. Which is why I don't understand why I can't get the mileage up for the life of me. Even when I have some highway miles thrown in, the mpg doesn't increase (and I am staying under 65mph). I am going to check the tire pressure this morning. I am really hoping it is just a break-in thing. Not that 26mpg is terrible, but better is always better :)
  • I've had my Fit since 8/2006, an 07 Sport AT. Kept track of my gas mileage too. almost all of my driving is in city, in Houston (so I use the AC). First tank back then was 21.2 mpg, but since then, nothing less than 26. 26 is my city average over almost 2 years (my commute is 13 miles each way through a ton of lights and stop signs), and 35 is normal for road trips.

    Till I finally read something on how to get more miles per gallon. I haven't done much, other than the ol' coast to a stop when you see it red up ahead (or traffic stopped), more gradual starts (keeping my rpms at 2000 or less, and using the paddle shifters every once in a while to shift to 5th when the car wants to stay in 4th at those RPMs, helps get my speed up quicker). In the city I keep my RPMs between 1500 and 2000, and highway under 2500 RPMs (about 72 mph I think). On my city only tanks, I got two tanks of 29mpg and one of 31.5mpg.

    And I just took a road trip, loaded down with lots of beer and coolers and ice, suitcases, etc, and finally broke the 40mpg wall - 42.83 mpg!!! Almost got more than 400 miles out of the one tank, but I wasnt sure when the next gas station would be, and ended up only needing a little over 9 gallons. I'd gotten close to 40mpg before - a few 200 mile trips that were 39.5mpg, so I was thrilled with 40+. And that's not being too conservative on speed that I felt like I was crawling.

    I really think RPM is the key factor to getting better mileage, and I'd never heard that before. I just keep an eye on my RPM gauge, and let that dictate how quickly I accelerate.
  • upstatedocupstatedoc Posts: 710
    "And I just took a road trip, loaded down with lots of beer and coolers and ice, suitcases, etc"

    Now that sounds like a road trip right out of Animal House! :P
  • vcarrerasvcarreras Posts: 247
    2007 FIT Sport A/T 21K ..Last tank 20% highway 80% city Houston, Texas 327.9 miles 9.7 gals = 33.8 mpg. Was getting about 31 mpg but have eased back a bit driving the speed limit with cruise control on even in 30mph zones. I also try to get in high gear with lowest revs, meaning shifting below 3000 rpm, mostly between 2200-2500. Even here in Texas more people are slowing down but you still have the crazies with their BIG SUV's and pickups who think they own the road. More money then brains!! I LOVE MY FIT.. :)
  • aaykayaaykay Posts: 539
    I have now had several fillups and my mileages are as follows (fillups from the beginning):

    33.533mpg (40% heavy stop-and-go and 60% hwy at 65-80mph)
    37.126mpg (40% heavy stop-and-go and 60% hwy at 65-80mph)
    34.51mpg (40% heavy stop-and-go and 60% hwy at 65-80mph)
    42.53 mpg (mostly highway trip at 65-85mph with around 10% city driving)
    35.34 mpg (40% heavy stop-and-go and 60% hwy at 65-80mph)

    I am not doing anything special to increase my mileage at all (except filling up with Shell premium). I shift at around 3000-4000 rpm all the time. I am pleased thus far and know that if I really do some of these "hypermiling techniques" (no intention of doing so, at this time), I can pretty easily break the 40mpg barrier.

    Point to note is that the engine is fairly buzzy at higher speeds (except when coasting, obviously) and taking curves at higher speeds are definitely hairy, with the skinny "base" tires not helping any. :blush:
  • Third tank 45.6, overall average 44.2.
  • andysdandysd Posts: 87
    Here's a follow-up to my original posting, the facts on the odometer lawsuit, to the credit of Honda:

    "Honda says odometers on 6M cars click off mileage at too-quick pace
    Updated 2/19/2007 10:10 AM ET
    "...The carmaker says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side.

    "Honda (HMC) is notifying 6 million owners of Hondas and Acuras that they are entitled to warranty extensions and, in some cases, payments because odometers in their vehicles rolled up miles too fast.

    "That made warranties expire too soon and hit some lease customers with excess-mileage penalties.

    "...The Society of Automotive Engineers' voluntary standard is plus or minus 4%, or no more than 4 miles high or low in every 100 miles. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says it doesn't regulate odometer accuracy.

    "Honda says its odometers were accurate to within 3.75% on the high side and 1% on the low side, within the SAE standard. But it says it will extend the warranty mileage 5% and will pay lease-mileage penalties due to fast odometers, at least $6 million just for overcharges on vehicles leased directly from Honda.

    "Holmes says the fault was noted by Jay Kutchka, a Fort Smith, Ark., lawyer who drove a Honda Odyssey.

    "'No odometer is going to be perfect,' says Honda spokesman Chris Martin. But prompted by the class-action lawsuit, Honda realized, 'The customer expectation is that it would be based on zero. We weren't. So we decided to settle the suit.'

    "Starting with '07 models, Honda tightened its odometer accuracy and centered in on 0%, Martin says.

    "A U.S. district court in Texas will accept or reject the settlement, probably this summer [2007]. Holmes says it's rare for a settlement not to be approved.

    "Vehicles covered in the deal: 2002 to 2006 Hondas and Acuras bought from April 13, 2002, to Nov. 7, 2006. Some 2007 Honda Fits also are included."
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Good to know. Now I have a warranty that extends to 37,800 bumper to bumper and powertrain that goes to 63,000, I presume. I have a 2006 Accord purchased in Nov. 2005. I'm very close to 36,000 miles now, so I don't have to worry with it expiring just yet.
  • 204meca204meca Posts: 366
    I have been infatuated with the Fit since I 1st saw one in Panama in 2005. I admit that I am a Fit forums voyager, Truth be told,I love Hondas & have owned about 10 Civics since my 1st 85 wagon. I want an excuse to get a Fit

    Here is my hang up. Overall I get the impression that most people who consciencious drive to get good mileage (not necessarily hypermiler fanatics) appear to get 33-36 highway mpg - that is pretty dang good mileage. Some occasionally break 40 mpg. But I can't understand why the Fit with its 109 HP engine & all the goodness of Honda engineering can't do 40+ mpg consistently on the highway with occasional runs of 45+.

    My 92 Civic Si consistently got 30-35 in the city & 40+ on the highway. Same with 2 Del Sol Sis - the manual DS got consistently topped 40 on the highway & AT DS got 43-45. Both rarely dropped below 30 in city/suburban driving. All the Sis had 125 HP & pretty good scoot! My 92 HP VX consistently topped 50 mpg highway.. Admittedly the VX was a very light, bare bones car, specialized fuel mizer. But then doesn't that also describe the Fit (althought the definition of "bare bones" has changed in the last 15 years). Even my wife's Audi A4 1.8T CVT consistently gets 33-36 highway. Compared to the Fit the Audi is huge & vastly more comfortable.

    So what is it about the Fit & the current crop of fuel misers that they don't seem to be able to consistently break the 40+ mpg barrier? Can't Honda do better with the most fuel efficient car it sells in the US? :confuse:
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Good Post and good question.

    I'm thinking the Fit was designed to be more of a Town Runabout. The engine is quite small and the shape of the car may not be as aerodynamic as it could be, due to it's "utility" nature. Therefore, running at 70+ mph may place quite a strain on it's drive train.

    Living on both this and the Civic forum have shown me that the Civic, with it's larger and more powerful engine seems to consistently exceed the Fit in real world mileage on the highway.

    The Toyota forums also indicate that the Corolla equals or betters the Scion/Yaris models on the road.

    Late model cars are strapped with stricter EPA requirements than the older ones were. In the early 80s I had a Dodge Colt hatch back that consistently exceeded 40 MPG and it had a carburetor. No fuel injection, no computer.

    Also a Civic wagon with a 3 speed automatic and carburetor that delivered 32 mpg in most any type of driving.

    However, I also had an early model MT Ford Pinto that would consistently deliver 21-23 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. That is not a Type-o. 21-23 on the road! What a POS that was.

    Kip
  • I also think the increasing government and public demands for safety features have significantly changed cars even over the last 5 years. Some of those changes make demands on design changes as well as weight, and since fuel economy was not high on public demand, there is not much motivation for automakers to "do it all". I agree with poster above, as well, that the Fit was designed to be an about-town car, that could haul people & all their gear (and a llama, apparently). I personally only see the highway a few times a year, so I don't give a hoot about the highway mileage, and the "split" between city & hwy MPG is only 7mpg vs. 10-12mpg like many sedans.
  • tfuisztfuisz Posts: 8
    After owning our Fit sport AT now for about 12 months, with 5K on the odometer, the last fill up gave just under 20 mpg for all city mileage. We love the car, but the mileage is a real disappointment.
    As soon as a viable electric car comes out we can use for around town errands, the Fit is gone.
  • Are you positive you are calculating your mpg correctly? (Fill up, note odometer, next fill up note gallons & odometer, divide # miles/gallons into the tank). You may also want to average several tanks to make sure there wasn't a fluke at one fill-up. Also be mindful of excessive idling (such as long lines at the drive thru, waiting for someone with the car running, etc.) and how quickly you accelerate. Keep the rpms under 3000, and under 2500 whenever possible.
    I have the base AT, and was getting in the mid 20's for the first 2000 miles, and just started getting close to 30, all city. When you are at a red light with the A/C off, what rpm are you idling at? Look at the idle learning procedure a few pages back. You should definitely take it in under warranty, there could be another underlying issue.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Today's cars are heavier, even if they are classified as compact or sub-compact. The Fit weighs about 2500 pounds. I used to have a Civic back in the early 90s, and it weighed something like 2100 pounds. That's a difference of carrying two good-sized American men, and that definitely impacts the gas mileage.

    And why are today's cars, including the Fit, heavier? As others have remarked, it is primarily the safety requirements, not just with the "bags" and other electronic gizmos, but also with the more rigid body structure, that make the cars heavier.
  • elsabaeelsabae Posts: 4
    I bought one of the first Fits that was available so I have had it awhile. Manual, base model. I have about 35,000 on it.

    I find that my driving habits really effect the mileage. I can race around and get about 33 mpg. Or I can drive sensibly and get it over 40. My husband and I have made a game of it and hit 45.56 yesterday. This was a combination of highway driving and back roads. (We live in rural Maine.) Lately our mpg has been 42 or higher.

    Our techniques are simple and easy. We drive 40 or so on back roads and try to anticipate stops to reduce braking. On the highway we go 55 (him) or 60 (me - I have my limits!).

    The highway drving speed has been interesting. I slowed down from 75-80 to 60. It adds very little to the total trip time, really bumps the mpg up - and I find it more relaxing. OK, it was a little frustrating at first but I was surprised at how quickly I adjusted.

    And lets face it, although very safe for a little car, the Fit is still LITTLE! Slower speeds are probably the single simplest way to increase the safety as well as the mpg. You just have more time to react. And at 60 on the highway, you're usually not tailgating anyone (if you are, wave, it is probaby my husband going 55!)

    Added bonus - you get to feel smug and make disparaging remarks about all the SUV's whizzing by you!

    BYW, just found out that at highway speeds it is more fuel efficient to use AC than to open the windows (open windows create drag.) At lower speeds, windows are better.

    I love my Fit! Twice in the last few weeks - once when loading compost and once when loading rental tools from Home Depot - bystanders have commented "So, this is your pick-up truck?" And it IS - I love how much room I have.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    Well said ! Good Post! :)

    Kip
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Aerodynamics are the biggest factor affecting highway MPG. That's why the taller and boxier Fit won't get as good MPG as a Civic or Corolla in the real-world, especially when going above 60mph.

    But then the Fit will cost less to purchase than a Civic or Corolla, so you'll save $$ there that can be used to pay for some gas on the long highway trips. Also, the Fit can hold a lot more stuff than a Civic or Corolla so for our family, we're using the Fit instead of our larger vehicle.

    Regardless of the interior CuFt specs, when sitting in the Fit, I feel like there's a lot more room inside than in either the Civic or Corolla. Maybe the higher ceiling helps as does the hatchback design, but for me 2 adults and 2 kids in the back have more usable space then in Civic/Corolla, plus the larger cargo area and space under the 2nd row seats to put stuff (with a 7 month old and 3 1/2 year old you have a lot of stuff!).

    We'll see how the next generation Fit does for MPG...
  • ohthelawdohthelawd Posts: 17
    Definitely have to echo your sentiment on the Fit vs. Civic mileage question. The weight makes an ENORMOUS difference. Think about all of the safety equipment and such that are standard on the Fit (airbags, side airbags, ABS, etc.). When you only have 109hp pulling you around, weight like this really adds up and affects the MPG. I'd wager that a Fit w/o all of the new safety equipment probably could attain 40+ MPG pretty regularly. Not willing to try that, though ;)
  • vdalvdal Posts: 6
    ...Am i the only one that's complain about mileage on my Fit Sport.I love my little "bullet", but this mpg it just make me wonder.I'm not driving like crazy .I kept below 3000 rpm. Ac turn on only maybe 3 times for few minutes..Driving at speed limits,99.9% only in city(8 miles both sides with low traffic).I've got now 460 miles on odometer and gues what? I've filled he tank 3 times already!!! On first tank I've made 212 miles.I've put 9.5 gallon as a second tank on which i've made 177.9 miles and have filled tank with 8.5 g of gas.second thing is 2 days ago I've notice that oil life change to 90%. come on after 400 miles?!I went to dealer and they've told me to fill up third time tank and check mileage then, if it still low then they will run fuel performance check.Somebody got the same problem maybe or I'm just having bad luck or I'm a bad driver :cry:
    I've drive before Taurus Sel 03' V6 3.0 and I had 23 miles per galon in city so that's make me wonder.Is my skills went down:P :confuse:
  • thurst1963thurst1963 Posts: 42
    NO YOU ARE NOT ALONE My car sport fit auto tran got 13.4 mpg for the first 600 mile keeps jumping up now I have 5200 miles getting around 29-30 mpg 85-90% highway driving much better but not any where what I think I should be getting with my great small car 0-600 13.4 mpg 600-1300 17.34mpg 1300-2400 19.68mpg 2400-3600 23.47 mpg
    3600 4700 27.89mpg 4700-52389 29.88 mpg :confuse:
  • tfuisztfuisz Posts: 8
    Four years of advanced math and a degree in physics-if I can't do MPG correctly I want my tuition back.
    My guess with our fit is that it runs in a less fuel efficient way for the first few miles to heat up the catalyst to improve emissions. If your commute is long enough, this first little part is not significant, but if you take only short trips (like we do) you run in this mode most of the time, and the mileage sucks. Its been back to the dealer-nothing wrong with it.
    We love the versatility of the shape and seats. Don't like the mileage (and the rapid wear of the "carpet" near the mats). The in town mileage is within one or two mpg of our 1987 911. It seems like the fit should do a lot better.
  • damian1962damian1962 Posts: 28
    In order to get good numbers you have to shift at 2500 rpm per gear, once you get to 5th your at 50 mph and you set your cruise control. As far as anthing less than that maintain the car at 2500 rpm even when you pull out in 1st gear. Someone said the fit is not aerodynamic and this is a fact, the fit's not built like a civic and it makes no sense that the fit with it's small engine, weight and size doesn't separate itself from the mpg of a civic. The civic is right on it's toes and at higher speeds the civic get's better mpg than the fit. The fit is a small vehicle with lots of interior space, but it's tall which means it's a wind catcher. And oh yes, your driving for better mpg which means everyone is going to pass you don't run with them.
  • elsabaeelsabae Posts: 4
    Also check the gas where you are fueling. If there is any Ethanol in it, even 10%, it will cut your mpg substantially.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Indeed - I went from a solid 27.5 average in my old Accord to about 25.5 now, since they've made 10% ethanol the norm here in Alabama.
  • nedzelnedzel Posts: 787
    There are two parts to aerodynamic drag: drag coefficient and cross-sectional area. Aerodynamic drag is a function of the product of the drag coefficient times the cross-sectional area.

    Manufacturers and magazines typically quote the drag coefficient. It would not surprise me if the Fit has a relatively decent drag coefficient that is not too far behind the Civic. The Fit is a lot taller than the Civic, so it has a larger cross-sectional area and I suspect that is where much of the mileage difference lies.

    If you look at VW's 1 liter concept car, it has tandem seating which greatly reduces the cars cross-sectional area: http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/07/01/vw-supposedly-still-working-on-one-liter- -car-possible-2010-lau/
  • fitman548fitman548 Posts: 172
    I drive a lot at 80 mph which runs constantly AT 2900 rpm, and I still get 35-36 mpg. If you're city driving I can't imagine needing to accelerate so fast that you'd get up to 3000rpm anyway.

    In other words, I don't think that solution is going to overcome whatever mechanical issue is causing his poor gas mileage.
  • hojczykhojczyk Posts: 2
    Went From Venice,FL....to Bandera, Tx...3487..miles average 35.20 mph...Mostly Intersate at 70 plus miles an hour....
  • retire36retire36 Posts: 6
    I have a 09 Fit on order in Tucson. I have read several messages indicating that the ac is marginal in hot weather.

    Anyone with experience with the ac in Arizona summer? I'm a little concerned.

    Thanks

    Dave
  • Dave,

    We live in Central Texas where it has been 102 degrees ever other day. Our 2007 Sport AC has worked like a charm. We always use outside air and set the fan speed to 4 and it does a great job. We turn off the AC temporarily when going up a steep hill. :)

    Regards,
    Bubba
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I don't consider an AC doing a great job when you have to run it on the maximum fan setting all the time. Once the car is initially cooled off, a good AC should be able to run at a low fan speed to keep it cool. I have a Fit Auto and live in Ohio and have found that the AC is okay, but not great. In the front row if you have the fans blowing the air right on you it's fine, but then the back seat passengers get hot, especially if the sun is on them. I recommend that you tint the windows. I'm planning on doing that and hopefully that will help.

    And you should probably use the Inside Air setting, since it's easier to cool off the inside air than 102degree outside air.
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