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Honda Fit Real World MPG

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  • It's amazing . I actually got 45 mpg yesterday driving on the freeway with no a/c and no passengers. Just me driving. Average speed 60 mph.
  • Question. I use reg. unleaded. Has anyone used super unleaded and noticed any diference in the mpg? Thanks.
  • I have a '07 Honda Fit Sport (5 speed stick) with 70,000 miles on it. Last July I drove from Los Angeles to Santa Rosa (dist. apprx 460 mi). I got 50 mph on the first leg of the trip (207 mi) and 40 mpg on the second leg (253 mi). I also drove from Santa Rosa to Nevada City (an hour north of Sacramento) and back and average 49.5 mpg. When got home I took it in for it's 70,000 mi. check up (by now it had clicked over to 71,000 mi.). Honda told me that the front brakes (original) finally had to be replaced. Even though it is a tall box, the handling is very secure and it has plenty of pep. It truly is a remarkable piece of machinery!
  • I use Super Unleaded (91 or 92 depending on the State) and notice a 1 to 3 MPG improvement. You will have to determine if the added cost is worth it. Most people would probably use Regular to save the $$ which is understandable. More important that the Octane is the brand of fuel. There has been a lot of debate about this, but I would highly advise using a high quality fuel in your car like Chevron (BMW's preferred fuel) or similar if Chevron is not available in your area. Also the service station you fuel at is very important. Look for clean, well run stations. Newer stations will have newer tanks in the ground pumping up less potential contaminants into your tank. :sick:
  • My service advisor at my local Honda dealership in Pasadena Ca. tells me to stay away from ARCO and go with Chevron, Unocal or Mobil.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    I am not surprised that the dealer was poorly informed, to advise you that there were no handling equipment differences between the Base and Sport models - I had to dig very, very deep to find out the Sport actually includes an additional rear sway bar missing on the Base model.

    Consumer Guide has a good review of both the Base and Sport models. Their take is BOTH models handle significantly better than the average small car (disregarding the Ford Fiesta and Mazda2 which weren't out at the time). As to the two Fits, the Sport handles better than the Base but at a significant degradation in ride quality. I think the degradation in ride quality is due to the narrower profile tires, not the sway bar. I think part of the difference in handling on the Base model is due to lesser quality, narrower tires.

    I test drove both the Base and Sport. I thought the Base wallowed a bit, the Sport was more precise but harsher riding. I later test drove a Base a lot harder and found it very grippy on freeway on ramp curves - apparently the wallowing didn't really affect grip around the curve. The handling was definitely good enough for me. What I DIDN'T like was the wallowy feeling between 70 and 80 on the freeway. It didn't feel "planted." It felt like a light, flighty car, a feeling increased by the noise of the engine (3900 rpm with the manual transmission), wind noise, and tire thrum.

    The Mazda2 is much quieter and feels more solid.

    The problem is, there is really only one mini--mini van, and it's the Fit. The versatility of those seats is phenomenal. Head room and cabin "spaciousness" are phenomenal. In the Mazda2 it's possible to feel a little claustrophobic. In the Fit you feel "spacious." Measurements between the two cars are comparable, but "feeling" is vastly different.

    Honda continues to annoy me with their cheapness. What you get is good quality, but on the Base they leave out keyless entry, floor mats (missing on the Sport too), cargo cover, and stability control - all included on the Fiesta and Mazda2. to make matters more insulting, Honda is apparently only "dribbling" out stability control to the Sport trim for 2011; in 2012 federal rules mandate stability control in all makes and models, but with a corporate motto of "Safety For All" I don't know how Honda can sell the Fit without stability control. It's hypocritical.
  • I added an aftermarket rear sway bar to my base Fit and it really woke it up. I did the same thing on the Yaris it replaced. The sway bars really should come standard on these small cars.
  • I have a 2009 Fit with 35,000 miles, about half of it from road trips with a family of four.

    I agree with the assessment of ride quality on the low profile tires. On bumpy local streets, the 55 series tires provide much less cushion than my older Civic's 65 series. I run the Fit's tires at 40 psi, which gives me about 2 mpg better on the highway and improves the already crisp handling, but makes the ride harsher on rough streets. It's rough. On the positive side, the two year old in the back seat loves flying over big stomach-in-throat humps.

    The car is a pleasure on the highway, and I don't find it flightly, just responsive. It's similar to a Civic in strong crosswinds.

    I also agree with the spaciousness assessment. I'm 6'5, the teenager's 6', and we manage to fit comfortably. Not a lot of side to side room--three across is a squeeze in the back and two large men in the front seat can feel a little close (when I took delivery from the similarly-sized salesman in the passenger seat, I thought "what have I done?"). But with a car seat, toddler, toddler toys, playpen, and three big-persons' worth of luggage, there is room to spare in the cargo area. (It's about a third bigger than the Accord's trunk).

    We get 35-40 MPG on the highway with this load, at 60-75 MPH with tires at 40 psi.

    Immediately after purchase, I did spend about $350 on floor mats, a trunk mat, a removable cargo shelf cover, and a cargo net to bring the interior standard up a notch. Otherwise it's comfortable. The leather wheel is especially nice after hours of driving.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Thanks for the useful observations from an owner with substantial mileage. Very thoughtful. I looked at one at lunch today and the interior space is amazingly versatile. Any observations about noise levels? Esp. on the freeway?
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    edited September 2010
    I don't find the car all that noisy, though there is a bit of tire noise. My only complaint with the Fit as a highway car is that I get tired of the stiff ride after a few hours (I have the Sport model).
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Thanks! I'm looking at the Base and it is not so hard riding so that isn't an issue.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Where did you find an aftermarket rear sway bar for the Base Fit? Did it come with the necessary mounting brackets and bolts?

    I put a TRD rear sway bar on a Yaris LB and it really tuned up the handling - much less understeer. If there is a similar bar for the Base Fit that leans me even more towards that model.
  • In the past 5 years, I have never used any fuel other than Chevron in the West. In the East where Chevron is harder to find, I used Mobil. Texaco is connnected with Chevron and is a good one in localities that don't have Chevron. ARCO is cheap and I use it in rental cars at the airport to save money, never a vehicle I own. :sick:
  • I am interested. Where did you get the bar installed and approximately how much does it cost to do so?

    Thanks.
  • I am responding to these comments:

    "Honda continues to annoy me with their cheapness. What you get is good quality, but on the Base they leave out keyless entry, floor mats (missing on the Sport too), cargo cover, and stability control..."

    I have a Base Fit with 15K on it at this point. If you have a Base model--Honda actually gave you a blessing in disguise by leaving those things out.

    1. No Keyless Entry: I hated this too when I got the Base FIT, but it turned out to be an opportunity to load a VIPER Responder 350 Keyless Two-Way Alarm Paging System ($300.00 installed everywhere). Now I have a security system that far exceeds the security system on most cars including the Sport Fit. You not only have keyless entry, but also a remote with a LCD screen that monitors the security system 24 hours a day, up to 1500 feet away and constantly communicates and vibrates or rings or both the second anyone tampers with your car--not to mention a really bright warning light flashing at night. So you know in advance if anyone is in your car or anything happened before you get there or you can run out immediately and catch the [non-permissible content removed]. Other great features are CarJacking prevention, security control of the electric doors to prevent intruder entry the second you turn the ignition on and dome light control. I would not have gotten this alarm if I purchased the Sport and with the Sport they would have had to remove that alarm system (which does not have many features and only a horn beep.) I learned about the Viper from my Honda Dealer Service Advisor that was discouraging me from installing the Honda Sport alarm on my Base Fit! No Joke! He just did not see why anyone who can install a Viper for less $$ would want a factory Honda alarm. At first I was resistant--but he was right in the end.

    2. No Floor Mats: Another blessing. If they gave them to you, it would be the cloth/fabric ones. Like most cloth mats--they last a week max, and you can never get them as clean and looking as day one ever again. A few months later---you are disgusted to put your feet on them. Instead, buy the beautiful thick Honda All Weather FIT mats (125.00) They are great--and every month or so, I wipe them down with water and they are brand new clean again! If you want to know how dirty mats get, get the all weather ones and wipe them down regularly and see how much dirt there is.

    3. Cargo Cover: There are probably a few occasions I would have liked this to hide things, but really--you purchased the FIT for its versatility--Do you really want that piece of plastic impeding the ability to fold seats up and down and load cargo in and out like a pick-up truck? Who needs that! Plus its another thing adding weight to your car, killing MPG and where are you going to store it when you don't need it. (The Wife: "I can't stand that car cover getting dust in the gararge--get rid of it--why did you buy it, if you are not going to use it!") Sorry--FIT does not need it. (Savings of 150.00).

    4. Stability Contol: There has been a lot of discussion about stability control on the Base FIT here. I don't get it! Could I have been the only person to get a Base FIT that rides great? I took my FIT non-stop (except fuel) from Los Angeles to Portland, OR this summer and then to Vancouver BC, then down the Oregon Coast and back to LA and never once, even at unmentionable speeds had a problem with stability. Now maybe if I went to the track with it--maybe--but no one buys a FIT for that. I don't get the issue. Come by and drive my Base FIT if you want. :)

    Thanks.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Most gasoline does not have sufficient cleaner additives to keep the modern fuel injectors clean. The current Federal standard is based on testing cleanliness of early technology BMW injectors.

    California requires twice as much cleaner additive as the Federal standard, so if you live in Calif you are a little better off.

    In response to fuel injectors getting dirty and affecting mileage and emissions, several petroleum manufacturers and several car manufacturers got together to come up with higher standards for fuel injector cleaning. The result was the Top Tier Program:

    http://www.toptiergas.com/

    note that Honda is a participant.

    Chevron, Union 76, Shell are the big three that satisfy these program requirements in Cali. The complete list is at the website.

    If you use these gasolines, you don't need expensive periodic "fuel injector cleanings" offered by many dealers.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,830
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  • harrys1harrys1 Posts: 12
    Stability control is designed as a safety feature in the event that you start losing control of the vehicle or have to make a quick maneuver, particularly on slippery surfaces. It does not affect handling in normal driving. Your comments are like someone saying that life insurance is foolish, since he has yet to have a need for it.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    edited October 2010
    For example, stability control saves drivers in three common situations:

    1. Overestimating safe entry speed into a curve, like an on-ramp or off-ramp (but stability control can't fix gross errors or suicidal racing speeds).

    2. Pulling into a lane, and having to quickly swerve out when another vehicle simultaneously heads for the same spot.

    3. Hitting a slippery spot (wet, black ice) in a curve.

    Stability control is also useful in the snow, since the system lets manufacturers toss-in "ESD" or electronic slip device, the modern counterpart of "LSD" or a limited slip differential. Essentially this works by clamping down on the brake on a slipping drive wheel, so power is shifting to the other wheel. It's different from old-fashioned traction control which merely retards the ignition to slow down the motor to reduce likelihood of slippage, but can't transfer power from one wheel to another.
  • I have a Fit sport auto with 600 miles, I am getting 27 mpg average, 70/city 30/highway, I have a very lite foot. Will the mpg improve with time?
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    that is superb mileage with a 70% city weighting. I presume you have an automatic. most high mileage light/small cars only give about 18-20 mpg in your scenario.
  • Mic, thank's for the reply, I dont know why you consider my mpg superb considering other posts on this site. Back to my original question about after break in period, do you know if mpg will improve?
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    City driving pounds mpg even more than the EPA estimates. I've had a lot of small cars and read a lot of mpg tests and reports and your numbers are incredibly high for 70% city driving. To get that kind of CITY mpg you need to almost be a hypermiler and at least have a light foot. Usually city driving is for short distances too so the warmup cycle kills miles.

    I have never seen mpg improve after break in on any of my cars. (30 or so owned in the past 10 years). I have seen it go down more often. I think I drive extra carefully when brand new then start driving more "normally" although I have a light foot and on my freeway work commute used to meet or exceed EPA freeway mpg (far exceeding the combined mpg).
  • Mic, Everything you said sounds logical, but compare to other posts here people are getting 30+ with a similar ratio of driving I stated. Anyway have a nice Thanksgiving. regards.
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    I tracked mileage for 10 years by saving each gas receipt and writing down the miles on the trip odometer, which I reset each time. I then used a calculator to figure out the mpg and averaged the mileage over lifetime ownership. Many people rely on the built in calculator, which is often inaccurate, or figure the mpg in their head, or remember only a few good tanks when they maybe squeezed more gas in too. I also subscribe to Consumer Reports website edition.

    Consumer Reports says the current edition Fit in 5 speed manual gave them 24 / 37 mpg rating overall 33, with automatic 21/39 overall 30. CR drives reasonably lightly. Most of the public doesn't.
  • LewJac,

    I have a 2009 FIT Base that I love and love the fuel mileage too. Its been all over already. Last summer I drove it from Los Angeles to Portland, Seattle and Vancouver, BC. Last month I drove it from Los Angeles to New York City in 3.5 days and I am stuck here for now but will return hopefully before the snow gets here. On both of those trips I drove mainly highways as you can imagine, but some sleeping in the car a bit with the AC or heater on along the ways. I averaged between 39 and 40 MPG. 39.6 precisely for the LA to NYC trip.

    Now, the way I use all the time, and you can use too, to test MPG is to get on the highway when it is clear enough to cruise at 65 MPH or so. ZERO out your trip meter so that the MPG resets and drive approx. 5 miles in each direction and see what it says? That's all you need to do. Or just wait for the next highway trip and do it.

    Local driving has too many varaibles to use as a determinator. Use the highway test method. In LA during the summer with the AC on, stop and go, my MPG local only can be as low as 25 MPG.

    Last, you know that the FIT is hypersensitive to tire air pressure and that will effect your MPG too. Make sure the tires are all even and pumped to the recommended level. I keep them at 32 or 34 depending on the type of driving. I once found that when they got below 32, it cost me approx. 1 MPG for each lb below 32 PSI.

    Hope that this helps.

    Do the highway test and let us know.

    Happy holidays. :)
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    With all of these new compacts coming out with 40+MPG, where's the hybrid Fit? Anyone here of one coming to the USA anytime soon?
  • Regrettably, the last I heard according to a blurb on insideline was that Honda has no plans to bring the hybrid FIT to the American market.

    This is likely the case because Honda does not want to further depress sales of the Insight and Civic Hybrids.

    I think this is a mistake on Honda's part - for the FIT hybrid appears to be Honda's best hybrid (out of the current Civic Hybrid, Insight, and CRZ).

    The Toyota Yaris, Chevy Aveo/Spark, Nissan Versa and Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio are all in the same boat though - none of them get 40mpg (yet).

    I suspect we will see an uptick in the mileage of subcompact cars over the next few years.
  • mgutaimgutai Posts: 25
    At approximately 130,000 miles, my 07 Fit Sport Manual is getting between 35 and 38 mpg in mostly highway driving between 70 and 75 mph. During the winter it's been 2 to 3 mpg less due to 'winter blend' fuel, snow tires, and use of the defroster (which kicks on the a/c). Overall, VERY happy with my Fit.
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