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Mazda3 vs Honda Accord

jurrasicjurrasic Posts: 6
edited March 12 in Honda
mm...Am I the only one thinking these two are comparable? Price wise, the Mazda 3 GT is comparable to Honda Accord EX

Honda Accord
Bigger, reliable, more mature.

Mazda 3
lots of add ons with less $$ (leather!), smaller, better handling, younger.
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  • nifty56nifty56 Posts: 279
    Mazda 3 more problems..
    Very weak A/C ...maybe corrected for 2007
    hesitation and stalling
    Auto trans 1 to 2 harsh shift
    Excessive rear brake dust and rapid wear
    Cheap interior material-plastic and carpets
    Average sound system
    Bad stock tires,wear out quickly
    Reports of 17" rims rusting within a year.
    Weak windshields and paint that chips easily
    2.3 engine mated with the auto trans not very good gas mileage in city driving.
    Check other Mazda 3 forums for other weakness...Google Mazda forums for more info
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    and of course the accord is perfect...if you like bland boring and dull cars. I think the guy who got his lunch money stolen in school drives an accord now. :P
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    "I think the guy who got his lunch money stolen in school drives an accord now"

    I think the thief that took the lunch money must work at a car dealership now! :P

    I drive a Mazda3 all the time - but it is becoming more difficult to get the keys away from my 17 year old - so now my wife needs a car - we took an Accord for a test drive.

    If you want a nice - comfortable - easy to drive - car with a large interior the Accord would be a nice choice.

    We are considering getting the Accord Coupe - it has a much more sporty feel - as far as fun to drive - the Mazda3 pretty much stomps the 4 banger Accord - the V6 Accord feels much faster than the Mazda3 - but it still is not as fun to drive - the need to go around corners and brake favor the Mazda3.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I think the thief that took the lunch money must work at a car dealership now!

    Of course he does...how else do you think I paid for my boat?

    Actually the Accord is a fine car and I wouldn't criticize anyone for buying one...But as z71 has mentioned it not nearly as fun and it probably not a fair comparison.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Just to keep things fair:

    Honda Accord problems:

    Auto V6 "rough" shifting
    Radio failure
    HVAC control failure
    V6 vapor lock, won't start
    Transmission failure
    A/C compressor failure
    23 mpg I-4
    Premature rust on rear wheel well

    No car is perfect, not the Honda Accord, not the Mazda3. I don't see how these cars can be fairly compared
  • cticti Posts: 134
    You could just go right down the TSB list for both cars if you want a list of problems.

    On my 3, I have the harsh 1-2 shift problem. More noticeable when it is colder. This problem is replaced in the summer by the one-touch window only going halfway down. I didn't know that was a TSB until last winter so I need to wait a few months to reproduce it.

    No AC problem, though. But I have only used my AC twice all year - and I live in Georgia! Once on a two hour trip to Atlanta and once because I was wearing a long sleeved shirt and it was hot out. And in both cases the AC stayed on fan setting '1'.
  • bristol2bristol2 Posts: 736
    Not sure that the Mazda3 is in the same class as the Accord size wise therefore mileage and handling wise.

    Wouldn't the Civic be the obvious choice vs. the Mazda 3?

    Anyway, I drive the V6 manual Accord and I can verify that it is FUN to drive.
  • d_hyperd_hyper Posts: 130
    May I humbly suggest Mazda6 (sedan/wagon/hatch) for your wife?! ;)
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    Actually at one point we (wife & I) thought about the Mazda6 - but two things have changed our minds.

    Side Crash test of the Mazda6 - even with side air bags was not very good (3 out of 5 stars)

    Mazda will not stand behind the Mazda3 we bought - so I assume they would treat me the same way if I had a problem with the Mazda6.

    Cheat me once - shame on you
    Cheat me twice - shame on me.
  • stuartfstuartf Posts: 8
    I have been shopping the 6 HB, this week had a chance to rent a 3, it was really basic.

    I enjoyed the MPG (33 at 80 mph over 300 miles) and it got me to compare the two. Differences in interior passenger room (for four only) are quite comparable:

    6 3

    38.7/36.7 39.1/38.4 headroom f/r
    42.3/36.5 41.9/36.3 legroom f/r
    56.1/54.9 54.9/54 shoulder f/r

    The 3 is nearly 400 lbs lighter, much more spritely handling, sharper styling. On the other hand, the trunk in the HB 6 is huge, I can likely buy it for less and it has traction control.

    Other major differences that are not obvious??
  • what happened to your Mazda 3 . I thought there were a very good car.
  • The V6 Accord has traction control and skid control and much faster accelration and will get you 30 mpg. The Mazda 6 will get worse mileage; the Mazda 3 a little better.

    What are you comparing Mazda 3 to an Accord or a Mazda 3 to a Mazda 6? if the latter you are probably posting in the wrong place; either look at an existing Mazda 3 vs Mazda 6 thread or start a new one.

    cruis'n

    MidCow
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    I am not allowed to post the list of the problems I have had - the host has told me that Edmunds considers this brand bashing. Which is OK with me - since typing that much gives me sore hands!

    I have a 2004 - build date 10/03- which is a very bad month - I think Mazda has fixed most of the defects in the 2005-2006 model - except for the weak AC.

    I am happy to say that all of my problems were finally fixed - even my weak AC has been doing a little better.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I think a search of the Mazda3 Problems & Solutions discussion will answer your question.

    Bill - the repetitiveness is what that particular host meant, not the posts themselves.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    I am happy to say that all of my problems were finally fixed - even my weak AC has been doing a little better.

    Well, how about that!

    What did they do about your A/C issue?
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    I posted the details over an the Mazda3 AC defect board -

    Still not great - but I am getting air around 48 degrees - once in a while even 46!
  • I just ran across this forum. Interesting.... I thought I was the only one comparing these two.

    I prefer a Honda Civic, but Honda won't put ESC in the sedan yet. After seeing the amazing accident-prevention stats of ESC, I decided I will not purchase a car w/out it. So I started looking at the Accord I4. The 4 cyl has a lighter nose than the V6, giving it better handling. Plus it gets better mileage, has adequate power, and has a lower price. BUT, the Accord I4 doesn't have ESC either. So now I'm pushed up to the Accord V6. But the higher-end Accord V6 (even non-hybrid) is in the Acura TSX price range.

    So in the middle of my comparing the Accord V6 vs. the TSX, I see the ’07 Mazda3 has ESC on higher-end models. So now I’m comparing this odd trio.

    As an empty nester, the Accord is just a little too large for me. I prefer the size of the TSX. But now I’m having a tough time justifying an extra $10k or so for either the TSX or the Accord V6 vs. the Mazda3. My company is a Ford supplier, so I get the Mazda S Plan discount.

    I don't like the Mazda6 for a variety of reasons.

    Both the Mazda and Acura dealers are 10+ miles from my home. While the Honda dealer is about 2. Honda: you’d make this decision MUCH easier for me if you’d put ESC on the Civic sedan before my Saturn SL dies.
  • neteng101neteng101 Posts: 176
    You can get the Accord SE V6 for around $21k+ which is nowhere near TSX pricing.

    But the Mazda3 is a nice car too.
  • I want the manual sedan, which means $27.4k list (I think) for the Accord EX V6. But I'm having a hard convincing myself it's worth it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    List is non-existent on these Accords. Right now, you should be able to go $750 under invoice pretty easily. (Which puts it at or below $25k I think). Someone with more time can check my figures... :)

    It's worth it if you want it and can afford it!
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Stranger comparision... before i bought my M3 i was looking at a honda element (ugly lil thing but met my needs), main reason i didnt get one was that it was tough to find one with a 5-speed and the sales people were arrogant pricks. Had i got the arrogant prick at one dealer id understand, but it happened at all four of the ones i went to. Went to one Mazda dealer, sales person was great, price was great so i bought the car.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I've heard this before, from people in different areas - arrogant Honda dealers. We frequent a small-town-type dealership a few miles off the interstate, so they don't do a lot of volume. Their prices aren't always the absolute lowest, but we always get at least a decent price. The most important aspect is that we are treated as if we have been lifelong friends. I'm 19, and still get a handshake and an offer for a cup of coffee each time I'm there for service, and the sales manager comes and asks me how school's going, etc...Needless to say, this dealer (Serra Honda in Birmingham) has won numerous customer service awards.

    Not your average dealership, I know. Sorry to hear about the ones in your area. A drop in sales because of these dealers will serve Honda right, and maybe fix the problem!
  • elroy5elroy5 Posts: 3,741
    My local Honda dealer is nothing to write home about, that's for sure. It's a good thing I only go by there every now and then, to pick up maintenance supplies. :)
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    In the past year alone just in my family they have lost the sale of a CRV 4x4EX (my mom) and an Element EXP (mine). That may not be alot two vehicals, but i know we will never even consider a Honda again with the way we both were treated.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I certainly understand that. I like the products Radio Shack sells, but will never go in that store again for customer service reasons... I'm a Honda guy, but can certainly understand your feelings.

    Was this two different dealers? Did you visit others? (Just curious now)
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Actually it was four different dealers in the minneapolis/st paul area. I just couldnt believe that someone who wanted to try to sell a vehical would actually tell a customer he was too busy to deal with them today.
  • dridedride Posts: 139
    Total agreement on the Honda dealers in the Mpls/St. Paul area. Back in 2005 I was btwn an Element and a 3. Ended up not liking that the Element's rear doors couldn't be opened from the outside w/o the front doors opened. Long story longer, the sales people at the three dealers I visited were all the same: They were annoying, and I got the impression they were too busy to sell me a vehicle. There is nothing like waiting at a dealership for someone to answer questions about their product. Despite their great product and cool advertising, the experience turned me off to Honda.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Understandable. I went to get my car serviced today, and had an experience that was polar opposite to yours. I walked around the lot while I waited, and twice had someone ask me "Can I help you?" or "Looking for something in particular or just checkin' things out?"

    I told them I was just getting my car serviced and wasn't shopping, they were polite and said something along the lines of "No problem, let me know if you have a question."

    Part of that may just be the southern hospitality (I'm in Birmingham, AL)... it really does exist here. :)
  • tallman1tallman1 Posts: 1,874
    I've never run into any of that kind of arrogance here in the Pacific NW either.... and I've been to many Honda dealers over the years.
  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Lived in south florida for a year also...most of the sales persons there were the same way. Acted like they were annoyed that i wanted to test drive something, not just sign the paperwork on it. Met one very good Honda salesman up here once, went back a week later and he was no longer with the company. I found that to be funny.
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