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Honda Fit vs Honda Civic

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,630
    Even if the 1.5L receives a 10% boost, it still falls short of the 1.8L in standard output.

    But the Fit is lighter than the Civic, correct?

    Hey, the Accord's I4 gets pretty good fuel economy for a car its size and weight too. Maybe Honda should drop that puppy into the Fit and see what kind of performance and fuel economy would result! :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Even if the 1.5L receives a 10% boost, it still falls short of the 1.8L in standard output.

    But the Fit is lighter than the Civic, correct?

    Hey, the Accord's I4 gets pretty good fuel economy for a car its size and weight too. Maybe Honda should drop that puppy into the Fit and see what kind of performance and fuel economy would result!


    Well, let's see - with gearing and horsepower as it is in my 2006 Accord - you'd have a 166 horsepower Fit which runs 2,500RPM at 75 MPH.

    It'd be fast, but in-town fuel economy would be pretty low relative to the Fit. :)

    As a "Fit Si" I could see it being a hoot to drive - that's a lot of torque with very little weight. The added weight on the front wheels wouldn't help handling though.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    1.5 is a small engine in North America. But one should not forget that Honda designed the Fit as primarily a 1.3 L car for the rest of the world. In Japan, 80% of the Fit sold comes with 1.3. The larger engine is already offered. It's 1.5 L that we get in the U.S.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    "Well, let's see - with gearing and horsepower as it is in my 2006 Accord - you'd have a 166 horsepower Fit which runs 2,500RPM at 75 MPH."

    You just might be on to something here. Torquey 4 cylinder just might be the ticket! :) Maybe add a 6th gear as the Fit is much lighter than the Accord, and could run at a lower RPM. Maybe 2000 at 75.

    If we gonna go with the 2.4L, we could use the 190 hp version, for the "Fit Sport Si" That has a nice ring! :)

    Turbo Charge it for the 250HP "Shelby Fit Sport AWD SI" !

    Kip
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If we could just get the 177hp version and have it not be too heavy on the front end you'd have a neat competitor to the Mini Cooper S. Unfortunately, you'd also invade on Civic Si territory, so Honda wouldn't do it in all likelihood.
  • kipkkipk Posts: 1,576
    "Honda wouldn't do it in all likelihood."

    You are probably right. They likely would not even consider it.! :cry:

    Kip
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    It's fun to think about things like that - and it doesn't hurt anybody to do so!
  • Thanks for your report, but it indicates that you are pumping only 8.7 gallons when you fill (330/38=8.7). Is that correct? Are you really stopping for gas with 2.1 gallons left in the tank? Is it indicating empty or are you just very conservative with extending the range?

    The 330 figure was for normal driving at about 35-36 mpg, which is a fill up at about 9.2 to 9.4 gallons, just after the light comes on.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I know some folks who fill up at 1/2 a tank...that's conservative, not if it's less than a quarter.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I think that due to aerodynamics, the Civic will give better MPG, especially at speeds above 70mph. So if you have a mostly highway commute at 75-80mph, then I'd go for the Civic. But for more of an around town commute, or slower highway speeds, then either would be about the same.

    If the vehicle is just a pure commute car for one person, I'd go for the Civic (personally, I'd get the Corolla for this type of commute car) but if you're going to use it as a back-up for your big car, then I'd go for the Fit, because of the versatile interior.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Since you brought up the Corolla, I thought I would mentioned that we rented one while on a recent trip and, for something with only 126hp and an antiquated 4-speed auto, it performed amazing well around town as well as on the highway. The plain-jane exterior and interior are not going to impress your neighbours, but it sure didn't drive like an economy car. It would be interesting to see how the re-designed '09 Corolla would fare.
  • greytailgreytail Posts: 17
    My wife and me bought both. Her’s a 2008 Civic DX and me a 2008 Fit Sport Auto. Civic is a more quieter comfortable ride with better MPG. But my fit has awesome room for its size. Both for drive/passangers and cargo.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    what's the MPG difference between the two?
  • greytailgreytail Posts: 17
    .So far my fit is averaging 29.8 MPG and her Civic is averaging 37.6 MPG..I’m the conservative driver and she is the lead foot.
  • clewis3clewis3 Posts: 7
    I was on this forum a month or so ago gathering information to help me in deciding whether or not I would be happy with a Honda Fit. I wanted to summarize my research and purchase experience in case it is of value to anyone else and to thank all the contributors to this forum whose postings helped me directly or indirectly with my decision.

    I fell in love with the Fit because of its wonderful interior versatility and its small car advantages of good mpg and reasonable purchase price. In the past I have generally bought used cars unless a tremendous new car deal was available. I needed to switch from my current 2000 5 speed Saturn (30-40mpg) to an automatic of some sort because of a hip problem.

    I thought the Fit was perfect for my needs but had two reservations: 1) I needed cruise control but could only get it in the Sport model which had trim and extras I really didn’t want 2) I thought both Fit models appeared to have low bodies that might be problematic in the mud season driving here in Vermont…deep muddy ruts on the dirt roads and some pretty good sized potholes on all roads

    In researching on this forum I began to see another potential problem and that was inconsistent mpg that are being reported on the Fit. I knew that the most important factor for me in my new car (besides reasonable comfort and safety) was economy… I want my vehicle to be as inexpensive as possible to maintain and drive.

    I continued to explore these three questions and got the following impressions: 1) Probably a good aftermarket cruise control can be installed on the base model by Yipes Stripes, etc for about $500-600. Or there is a Toyota dealer in Canada who will do it at the Toyota shop (though they subcontract it out to other mechanics). The cruise control requires an extra stalk on the steering column.

    2) I found occasional complaints in the forums about scraping bottom going over bumps but most people weren’t overly concerned about it. One Vermont driver I spoke to in a parking lot here said she had actually gotten hung up on some rocks and mud in her Fit on a rutted dirt road.

    3) Good mpg on the Fit just didn’t seem as likely with the Fit as with a few other vehicles. I know that for me, personally, economy is more important than driving enjoyment and if I spent the relatively large sum (for me) to buy this car, it would be really frustrating if I had to work and research ways of getting my car into the 30-40mpg range.

    4) On the good side, I found a dealer in Danbury, Connecticut who had a lot of Fits available and good prices. That was nice, because our Vermont dealers get only one or two a month and they are usually pre-sold.

    Anyway, my final decision was to go for a used Civic. My budget was about $15,000. I found a 2005 Civic LX with 32,000 miles. Lease trade-in from the dealer and all the maintenance had been done there. I bought it for $12,700 ($13650 “out the door”) with 2 warranties; Honda Certified Warranty for 12 months and powertrain warranty for 7 years/100,000 miles. Two weeks into it I am happy with my decision. The first tank of gas gave me about 31 mpg in my around town driving. I haven’t yet done any highway to know how it goes but am hopeful it will be as good as the old Saturn… at around 40mpg.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Are the Fit and Civic treated to the same driving conditions, or is one getting more highway time than the other?
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Keep us posted on your MPG.

    If I didn't need the interior space/versatility of the Fit, I might have gone for the Civic (although I'd probably buy a Corolla over a Civic), but the versatility of the Fit far outweighs the potential better MPG of the Civic. We're a family of 4 (3 yr old and 5 month old) and it's much easier getting the kids in/out of the Fit because it's higher up. The cargo space behind the 2nd row holds a lot, plus there is space under the 2nd row for the diaper bags, toys, paper towels, and all of the other kid stuff. All of this far outweighs the potential MPG improvement of the Civic. Emphasis on the word "potential" since most people seem to be getting mpg in the 30s for both the Fit and the Civic. That's what I'm averaging.

    But if the car is just to be used by one or two people and you don't need any more interior cargo space that what's offered by the Civic's small trunk, then I'd go for the Civic or Corolla.
  • greytailgreytail Posts: 17
    Yes bought them the same day both with less than 4 miles on them. Drove them on the same road home, at the same speed. Since we have gotten them home drive them on same roads and conditions. My wife is a lead foot and I try to cheat for my little fit. But she is getting about 8 MPG better than me on her Civic.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    Okay, I was just wondering if the Civic was being driven more on the highway since buying it, but it sounds like they're both getting the same amount of highway/city miles. And I guess they're both manual or both autos?
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