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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

patpat Posts: 10,421
Seems like there are some issues with the new Camry - let's talk about them here.
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  • jwa120jwa120 Posts: 7
    I have reported the 3rd to 4th transmission problem to Toyota. I do plan on calling Toyota USA again since the service department finally acknowledge that there is a problem and that the service department has duplicated it. I also intend to write Toyota USA a formal letter.
  • pickles077pickles077 Posts: 30
    We have a new 2007 Camry. The vehicle is a nice car. I have noticed the brake pedal makes too much noise when you
    take you foot off the brake pedal, unless you remove your
    foot very slowly.

    I have also noticed at low speeds the vehicle really does not need
    to be allowed to shift into overdrive; the transmission seems to have difficulty with it. When I am driving 45mph or slower I usually drive with the transmission in fourth.
    P.
  • cwopete2cwopete2 Posts: 6
    Only woes seem to be the transmission issue on the first 160 cars built. Given Toyota builds about 2,000 Camry's a day, that's a pretty small issue and yet it was beaten into the ground in the transmission issues section. Overall the 2007 Camry's appear to be another quality Toyota product. Maybe I'm somewhat jaded because I haven't had any problems with my 2007 XLE V-6, but we've owned Toyota products for years and years and wouldn't own any other brand. :)
  • pickles077pickles077 Posts: 30
    I inferred that the woes section would include comments relative to problems, regardless of perception of size,
    that we felt we had. I did not think it would only refer to problems as severe as losing our dearest loved one.

    Our 2007 Camry on occasion seems to "stall" at low speeds
    because the transmission has not shifted down; that is,
    the transmission gear is too high and the rpms of the engine are too low for the speed the vehicle is traveling.
    It is similar to the feel in a vehicle with a straight-shift vehicle and you have the transmission engaged in a gear that is too high. With the Camry the "stall" feel
    is eliminated when the transmission lever is moved to cause the transmission to shift into position four. These are the facts as I know them.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Why do we need a separate thread? There's already one entitled "Toyota Camry: Problems and Solutions."
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Because there is at least one issue that has been introduced with the new MY. I didn't see any reason to limit it to only that one, though. Other 2007 issues are welcome here.

    We're trying to have more granular discussions than we have in the past. :)
  • jrock65jrock65 Posts: 1,371
    Okay, I guess this is the correct thread to post this in.

    A couple of new ES350 owners have reported similar transmission issues.

    Since Camrys and Lexuses are built in different plants, that would indicate to me that the source of the problem is in the plant that manufactures the transmissions themselves.

    To my knowledge, the new transmissions are built by Aisin in Japan, in which case it may be difficult to pin down exactly what cars got the faulty transmission.
  • bayliebaylie Posts: 3
    I have noticed my 2007 camry making a loud "Thunk" noise :surprise: in the mornings when I first start off or the car has sat for a little while.

    I took it in to my dealer and the only solution we could determine was the VSC engages at about 10-12 mph or 20 feet. The rest of the time it is not that loud.

    Has anyone else heard this noise?

    I have also noticed like pickles007 that when I take my foot off the gas quickly the car seems to skip a gear and drastically slow down :confuse: . I do not notice it every time, but I am hoping as the car gets more miles this will get better or I will again be talking with my service department.

    Otherwise I love this Car :blush:

    Gertrude is a LOADED :shades: V6 / XLE.

    I love driving her and cannot wait to go on a road trip this weekend to see how she does on the open road.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    I have a thunk as well, first thing in the morning. LE 4 cyl w/VSC, just over 800 miles. Was just starting to try and figure out where it was coming from. Appears to come from the drivers side front. Thought at first that it was first time the brakes were applied (like the caliper/brake pad was sticking), but don't think that is the case. I back out of the garage every morning, and was going to try backing in at night and just pulling straight out in Drive to see if the symptoms changed. The engine is idling fast since it's cold (about 1500), which potentially might be related as well. I suspect the idle speed will drop once the engine is completely broken in.
  • bayliebaylie Posts: 3
    Kiawah

    Sounds like the same noise.

    When I fill out my customer survey I will list this noise as something I think they can improve upon.

    Muffle the "THUNK" from the VSC.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Posts: 1,134
    "...To my knowledge, the new transmissions are built by Aisin in Japan..."

    Has this been verified? Have previous Toyota A/Ts been produced by Aisen? (I was under the impression that Toyota designed and built their A/Ts in house - and even supplied Volvo at one time.)
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I don't think its the VSC, but rather, ABS. All vehicles equipped with ABS do a system self test within the first several dozen feet of vehicle travel. Its very noticeable on my Sentra, and I believe it may be what you are hearing with the Camry. Can non-VSC equipped Camry owners confirm?

    Is it really a "woe"? Geez.

    ~alpha
  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    No, it isn't a woe.

    People just don't understand how things work.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Well it may be as designed, but I've had and driven many cars all with ABS for years, and have never heard a clunk like this before from any ABS system. I'd personally be surprised if it turns out to be ABS related, but we'll do some more problem determination.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I used to hear a noise when my ABS-equipped 1990 Mercury Sable's system did the self-test at startup.

    But my '97, '04, and '05 Camrys (all with ABS but no VSC) made/make no such noise (at least that I can hear).

    But check your owner's manual, because I think it mentions this for both ABS and VSC.

    About idle speeds, a cold start idle at 1500 rpm is nothing to be concerned about. That's pretty typical of fuel-injected cars these days.
  • blindmantooblindmantoo Posts: 139
    I can't remember exactly which system is causing it, but my Quest did it and my '05 Odyssey does it. The service managers at both dealerships assurred me that it was normal.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,756
    Nor do my '04 Highlander or '05 Camry, both with VSC. Typical ABS self-check is the motor/pump coming on for a second or two, sounding more like a buzz. I'm not sure what would cause a "thunk."
  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    Read what it says under "Traction Control System" and "Vehicle Stabilty Control System".
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Yep, page 294 under the ABS section.
    "You may hear a click or motor sound in the engine compartment for a few seconds when the engine is started or just after the engine is started or just after the vehicle begins to move. This means that the anti-lock brake system is in the self-check mode, and does not indicate a malfunction."

    I backed the car in the garage, and will have the wife start it and pull out tomorrow morning while I watch/listen to the ABS pump. I'll confirm it's the ABS then.

    It's certainly louder than a "click", or maybe because the engine is soooo quiet it only sounds loud. In my case, it's a single loud clunk :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    So they come here to learn. That's why we exist.
  • blindmantooblindmantoo Posts: 139
    Both of my vehicles make more of a clunk than a click. Don't fret over it. My Quest made the same noise for 80k miles w/ no ill effects. Odyssey has done it since day one.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    As I said to another poster, people come here to learn. A "woe" can by anything that concerns someone. If it wouldn't concern you because you have an idea of what's going on, that works well for you. But what we're here for is to share that kind of information with others who may not have the experience to know what's happening. And we need to do that without implying criticism. Okay?
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Point well taken. But to some of us, these "woes" sound like excessive worrying, or "car OCD."

    Back in my day, you were lucky if a car even STARTED.

    You were doubly lucky if you didn't break your arm using the hand crank! ;)
  • austinman7austinman7 Posts: 313
    kiawah,

    FWIW, my 04 Accord makes a little buzzing noise when you first start out, and everyone on the Accord thread agreed it's the ABS doing its self-check. I was surprised by it at first, but now would probably miss it if it didn't occur.

    OTOH, I did have a clunk sound with my 02 Camry, similar to what you're talking about, and it was discussed on this board, but I don't recall any resolution to it. It's probably unrelated, because it was coming from the rear of the car, and I think you said yours was from upfront. Like you, I had never experienced that kind of clunk from any other car I'd owned.

    Someone else brought up an interesting point, that compared with cars we've had in the past (and some of us go back a ways!), all of today's cars are ultra-quiet and super responsive. I drove a '65 Mustang recently and could hardly keep it on the road -- manual steering, no power brakes, mushy throttle, etc. Scary to think that in the '60s that was a normal car for me. I used to ask my dad, "They don't make them like they used to, do they?", and he always said, "Yes, and thank goodness for that!"
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    I'm still not sure what it is. It appears to occur only overnight when the engine is cool, upon first start up. When it clunks, it only clunks once. I backed in so this morning I could have my wife drive out with the hood open while I felt the ABS brake lines, and of course it didn't clunk. It may have to go into reverse to fail, so still trying to narrow down the symptoms. This clunk is pretty loud, almost like a transmission solenoid delayed getting into gear, but tends to occur after the car is in gear and moving.....within the first 20 feet of backing the car out.
  • typesixtypesix Posts: 314
    There's nothing wrong with manual steering or manual brakes IF the manufacturer properly designs the systems.
  • faldocfaldoc Posts: 84
    I got word from Toyota today that the new transmission for my 07 XLE Camry is in Georgia. I had it for 16 days. The car has been at the shop for 18 days now. If the tranny comes in next week I should have the car back shortly thereafter.

    More news as I get it.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I still think it's a self-test, and likely doesn't occur until the car is moving x mph, where x is in the range of 5-8 mph.

    So don't try to run along next to the car, hood up, while your wife is driving!

    Without wading through the prior posts, I just want to ask if you have VSC in addition to the standard ABS?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Yes, have VSC. If this was a self test of anything, wouldn't it run everytime the engine was started? Seems strange to appear to only happen in the mornings after it's cooled down.
  • max_99max_99 Posts: 28
    I think many have had the impression that the 2007 Camry transmission were all built in Japan.

    I think for 2007 Camrys built in the US, the automatic 6-speed transmission is built in West Virginia by Toyoto Motor Manufacturing in West Virgina (TMMWV)...See portions of article below from Toyota.com. This may explain why no-one with a Japanese car has reported the Xmission problem (at least from a survey on another website)

    So I am beginning to think that Japanese Built Camrys have transmissions built in Japan while US built Camrys have transmissions built in the US. And the problem transmissions were built in West Virginia and installed on cars built in Kentucky...anyone want to comment?

    Toyota's West Virginia Plant Expands Again, Bringing 150 New Jobs
    Automaker to Manufacture Additional Automatic Transmissions

    April 29, 2005 - Buffalo, WV - Toyota announced today a $120 million expansion of its engine and transmission plant here, boosting employment by 150 to about 1,150.....

    TMMWV currently machines and assembles four-cylinder engines for the Toyota Corolla and Matrix; V6 engines for the Toyota Sienna and Lexus RX330; and automatic transmissions for Toyota's North American-built Camry, Solara, Sienna and Lexus RX330.

    http://www.toyota.com/about/news/manufacturing/2005/04/29-1-wmmwv.html
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