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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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  • peligrosopeligroso Posts: 42
    Well I just got a call from the dealer about my car.Apparently,he said that my problems are normal and that my complaint about the ride height on the left front side being higher than the right is normal.

    My original complaint stated that the ride height on the front left side of the car is half an inch higher than the right.Also,the car feels a little bouncy and unstable and seems to wobble and wander at times.

    A week ago before I turned in the car I measured the ride height myself and so did a local mechanic.The measurements were taken from the ground to the fender.To make sure the results were accurate the tire pressures were set equal on all four sides.Also the car sittting on a flat even road with no load on it.Nothing was in the car and no one was sitting in it.

    The mechanic and I also measured it from the center cap of the wheel to the fender and still there is a half an inch difference on the left side.

    Can anyone tell me if what the dealer said is true? Is it normal for the ride height on the front left side of the car to be a little higher than the right side?

    I also measured the ride height on two other camry's like mine and the dimensions were the same on both side.I also went to several auto specialists that deal with allighment and mechanical stuff and they all cofirmed the results on my car and said that its not normal.The ride height should be normal on both sides considering that the car is new and only has 700 miles.

    Can anyone help please? I pretty sure if you guys measure the ride height like I did you will find that its equal on both sides in the front.Tommorow I have to go in and pick up the car.

    I'm assuming the problems I'm having with my car have alot to do with that difference in ride height.I don't think one side being higher than the other is normal.

    Also if it helps my car is a 2007 camry le-v6.I suppose the dimensions would be the same on a four cylinder.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    fwiw, and not sure this measurement has anything to do with the problem that you have....but my measurement from ground to fender on both rightfront and leftfront are equal. 4cyl LE
  • This might be a little different circumstance because the vehicle is different, but the same issue exists on the vehicle I own. My 2003 Honda Civic EX has the same issue with the ride height sitting a noticeably 1 inch higher on one side than the other. It seems to be leaning every time I look at it on flat ground. Unfortunately I could not fix this problem unless I wanted to buy aftermarket adjustable suspension and had the dealer install it to correct the leaning problem. There was also a Honda Service bulletin that stated that certain Civics with certain transmission and optional accessories would cause the vehicle to lean to the side. As crazy as this sounds, I found it to be true after contacting several dealerships and Honda Corporate.

    On my other car; 2007 Toyota Camry Se V6 with navigation, this vehicle does not lean at all. It sits level, but this is not the exact vehicle that you own. This might be the same issue depending on model, accessories etc that causes the leaning. I hope this helps you. You can also call Toyota Corporate and see if they can explain this issue.
  • peligrosopeligroso Posts: 42
    prowler161...Well first I like to thank you for your input.
    I don't have any optional accesories on my car so that doesn't explain for the difference in ride height.And I don't think this issue is normal.

    I called toyota corporate a while back and they were not really helpful.The only thing I could do they said is to open an arbitration case.I will probably do that if the dealer insists its normal.I am also considering of reporting this issue to the better buisness burea.

    Does anybody have any advice and suggestions?
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Ok, I knew you'd be back. Your apology from last week is accepted.

    In the past few days, I've been busy measuring ride heights of cars. What I want to say again is that wheel alignment or even body alignment (as may be needed after a collision) is NOT done by taking measurements from the wheels to the bodywork. So either those non-Toyota mechanics are blowing smoke or their eyes are seeing $$$ signs when you approach, because they know that the Toyota dealer is going to say it's normal.

    Below are the differences in centimeters (1 in = 2.54 cm) measured between the left and right sides on different cars. All except my car were inside my employer's building on a level concrete surface. My car was in the parking lot, with just a slight uphill incline, in the same spot on two different days. I used the same tape measure, always measuring up from the floor/ground through the wheel center to the top of the wheel arch on the fender. I didn't inflate the employer's cars to the proper tire pressure -- just made sure there was no significant difference between left and right. (There wasn't, except for the Volvo, where the two left tires were 1 psi higher than the two right tires.)

    A plus sign means the ride height was greater on the left (driver's) side. A minus sign means the ride height was greater on the right (passenger) side.

    4/17:
    My '04 Camry, 43,720 miles. Front: +0.7, rear: -0.6
    2007 Volvo S80, 47 miles. Front: -0.6, rear: -0.9
    2007 Saab 9-3 convert., 58 miles. Front: -0.4, rear: -0.4
    2007 Subaru Legacy, 173 miles. Front: -0.9, rear: -0.5

    4/18: (after I bounced the front and rear of both cars up and down)
    My '04 Camry, 43,754 miles. Front: +0.1, rear: -1.3
    2007 Saab, moved inside building. Front: -0.9, rear: -0.3

    So as you can see, these measurements vary, were never exactly zero, and were sometimes 0.9 cm different (0.4 inches), or in the case of my car 1.3 cm different (0.5 in).

    So...there's either nothing wrong with the car, or there may still be a defect in one of the tires. OTOH, Michelin is very good in making tires without defects, but no one is perfect. Still, you must drive another '07 Camry V6 again on the same route as yours to see if there really is a difference.

    BTW, what happened to the engine noise?
  • peligrosopeligroso Posts: 42
    210delray... Well first of all thanks for the input.And I want to say that you seemed to have misinterpreted my words again.I had explained before that a check for wheel allignment was suggested because of the discrepancy in ride height.It had nothing to do with checking wheel allignment by measuring ride height.The mechanic never checked the wheel allignment.

    Since the the mechanic found the ride height was not normal he assumed that the wheel allignment was perhaps out of place or one of the tires was defective.If ride height is adjusted or perhaps in my case if its not normal then the wheel allignment must be checked.That is what I meant in my earlier posts about the wheel allignment issue.

    Also,I still disagree with you on the assumption that you think my car is normal.The ride height on a new car should be within proper specifications.So basically that half an inch difference should not be there.

    I confirmed that theory by visiting the sevice center at another toyota dealer.The technician there said the half an inch difference on the 07' camry is unacceptable.Most likely there's a problem somewhere.I will probably take the car there to the other dealer this time.Perhaps tomorrow when I get my car back from my local dealer.

    I'm also convinced that the ride height difference has alot to do with the problems I'm experiencing.They are consistent with that analysis.I'm feeling the left side of the car bounce often in situations when it should stay stable.

    For example,I drove the car slowly on a smooth road and noticed that the left side of the car bounced several times while the right side of the car stayed stable.The car felt very unstable and wobbly.

    I drove my friends v6 camry on the same road at the same speed and saw that neither side of the car bounced.The ride felt a bit more firm.His car is same 07' camry like mine.

    As far as the engine noise,I think that issue is normal on my car.I heard the same thing on the dealers v6 camry.Before I was listening for it on my friends v6 camry and didn't here it,but when I drove his car again at a different time I heard it.It simply the fuel injectors firing they explained.
  • I hope you get this figured out. I look forward to seeing the end result. Good luck.
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    one would think there should be a slight difference with the driver's side being higher when the vehicle's completely unloaded, so when you get in, it will be even. :blush:

    but seriously - there could have been frame damage, or there could be a problem with the strut tower, strut or spring on that side of the vehicle, right?

    in another forum we are discussing tires being "out of round". if the tire on that side is bouncing, it should be evidenced by "cupping". that would suggest suspension issues unless i'm mistaken.
  • jimmyt4jimmyt4 Posts: 4
    hello,I have been reading some of your complant
    about your ride height on your camry,it may be
    possible that when your camry was tied down in transportation they may have damaged one of the front struts.this may cause the bouncing effect
    you are complaining about.I worked at a Honda dealership and had the same problem with a
    2000 Accord,just a thought
    jimmyz1
  • jkmqjkmq Posts: 8
    I have a 2007 Camry SE 4cyl. The driver's seat squeeks and creaks.I have had it in 4 times.It is still not fixed.A Toyota rep has actually laid down in the back seat while the service mgr drove it around trying to duplicate the problem.The rep said it might be coming from the seat belt tensioner.I swear it is the drivers's seat.Has anyone had this problem and has anyone had it fixed? I narrowed down my choices to the camry and the accord before I bought the camry.BIG MISTAKE.This is the worst car I have ever owned.How long do I give Toyota to fix it and what is my next option ?
  • peligrosopeligroso Posts: 42
    I just want to thank to everybody for taking the time to read my posts and give me advice.I really appreciate it.Thank you.I was suppose to pick up my car today,but unfortunately it will have to wait until monday.I will keep you guys posted till then.
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 734
    Worst car you ever owned because it has a squeek/creak in the seat?
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    have another person drive the car and you lay down across the back seats, and as the person drives, try to locate the source of the squeak / creak. if and when you locate the source, point it out to the service manager.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    I have a squeak coming from the drivers seat belt tensioner. I haven't had it in yet to be repaired as it's really no big deal, will just get it handled it at next scheduled repair. My wife thought at first it was related to the brakes, as it only occurred when the brakes were first applied (I have her conditioned to tell me about any unusual noises.)
  • jkmqjkmq Posts: 8
    Thats right. This car still hesitates(after re-programming).Front left window vibrates/rattles, moonroof rattles(except when shade is pulled). Stereo sounds muffled,trunk was on on crooked when I purchaed it,and dash rattles.Now, back to my 4 visits to Toyota on this seat issue.First visit- service tech says it is just the sound that leather makes.Of course that did'nt fix it. 2nd visit - service tech rides wiht me and points to moonroof and says there's the problem.I then just pulled the shade.Still not fixed. 3rd visit - service mgr says there is a TSB on the problem and they will order a "special lube/grease" to fix it and will call me when it comes in.That did'nt work. 4th visit - service mgr tells me a Toyota rep will be in town and he will take it for a ride with him.They come back,the Toyota rep is so nauseated from laying down in the back seat he can hardly speak, but the decide it is in the A-pillar or B pillar, but it is not the seat.This seat will squeek and creak sometimes when the car is not even moving.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    Since you want to have a new Camry for the side curtain airbag, I would like to inform you that there is a recall on 2007 Toyota Camry due to airbag failure (including the side curtain airbag) to deploy on unspecified vehicles.
    NHTSA Campaign I D Number: 06V096000
    Recall date: 04/03/2006
    Source of info:
    http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2007/toyota/camry/recalls/index.html

    Also an owner of SE 5-sp AT 2007 Camry reported today on another website that the front and the knee airbags failed to deploy in a high speed head on collision and Toyota insisted the airbags not deploying was the owner's fault.

    I wonder why Toyota did not inform the customers about the recall by mail and TV broadcast instead of waiting for the customers to find out the recall on the internet if they are "lucky" enough or find out the hard way when the air bags fail to deploy in a serious accident then refused to take responsibilty inspite of the recall.
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836
    Did you see the number of cars effected ? I am sure those are effected has been notified. The vast majority of cars are not effected. You are making a big deal out of nothing
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    Of course, I see that the recall says the potential units affected is 133 vehicles. I wish you were right to be so sure that those affected have been notified.
    Do you have confirmation from Toyota that all those 133 vehicles have been identified and that the owners have been notified directly by mail or phone? If not,why are you so sure about it?
    If all owners of the 133 Camry affected have been notified as you believe, can you explain why customer JD on the other website has not been notified when his 2007 Camry also has problems with the airbags?
    Of course I agree with you that a vast majority of of 2007 Camry are not affected but unless all those 133 vehicles have been identified and the owners notified directly,I don't think it is a big deal out of "nothing" no matter how small the probability is.
  • smogdungsmogdung Posts: 349
    Will never buy Toyota again....last new one I had had > $6K in waranty work.....current 2 GM vehicles = zero defects...very happy...great mileage....low price....
  • chuck28chuck28 Posts: 257
    Just want to say that these problems that are being discussed are real and that I'm having a very tough time putting up with the noises and rattles. I head Toyota is pointing to the A or B pillar for the noises that are coming from the right passenger area. They haven't figured it out yet. I'm always surprised every time somebody finds a problem with their car there is always somebody that takes the defensive side. Probably a Toyota employee?
    I can say as God as my witness that most of these problems being reported on this site are also problems I am experiencing with my 2007 camry. I agree with the earlier post that it's the worst built car I've ever owned.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    I did not experience rattles from the front end of the 2007 Camry 4 cylinder AT that I owned for about 6 months but I did experience rattles caused by resonance from the rear end that ruin my enjoyment of the music when I played it on heavy base. But the worse part was that it only happened occasionally and I was unable to find out the source of the rattle. Also the CD player was unable to play one of my CDs, again occasionally. None of the above problems happen in the new and less expensive car by another manufacturer.
    I didn't complain about those problems because I cared more about safety issues such as acceleration hesitation which is reported by some to have been corrected Toyota.

    I don't know how bad the airbag failure problem in the 2007 Camry is. I found out the airbag failure recall a few months ago after I had traded in the Camry and I thought the problem must have been taken care of by Toyota. Then I read the first report of airbag failure in 2007 Camry today on another website but was unable to post a message to the owner JD about the recall no matter how hard I tried.

    A serious problem like airbag failure can be an even bigger worry to a car owner who knows about the recall which does not mention the VIN number because there is no way the car owner can know for sure if his or her car is affected unless informed by the manufacturer or until the airbags fail to deploy in a serious collision.

    If Toyota has nothing to hide in this matter, why not give the 2007 Camry owners a report on this website to tell them details about the recall and what they have done, if any, to ensure that those Camrys affected have all been fixed?
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    www.consumeraffairs.com had a number of postings re: lack of airbag deployment. is that the site you are referring to?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    The recall date being in beginning of April (when the production line was being cranked up), would have limited the problem to the VERY early production models.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Normal routine for a recall is to contact all owners affected by first-class mail. It is not routine to tell everyone else what VINs were affected -- this is the case for ALL manufacturers. As only 133 units were recalled according to what's been posted above, this is a minuscule fraction of 2007 model production.

    It's easy to find on the NHTSA website the number of vehicles affected by a recall and also the build dates. Consumer Reports publishes the same information for significant recalls.

    With regard to the alleged nondeployment in a collision, just because one person claims the airbag should have deployed does not make it so. Read your owner's manual about under what conditions the airbags should deploy; most (all?) manufacturers have a statement that the amount of vehicle damage is NOT a reliable indicator as to whether a particular airbag should or should not have deployed.

    I haven't checked the link, but presumably the complainant is alive and kicking, so that's one indicator that the airbag maybe didn't need to deploy?
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I now have checked the Consumer Affairs site and here's the report:

    Phyllis of Heflin LA (04/04/07)
    Was in an accident on Feb. 25, 2007. I was headed North and a car headed South turned in front of me on a rural highway. I hit her head on and then hit a deep ditch. I have a 2005 Toyota Camry and the damage totaled 10,000 but the insurance company decided to fix it. The airbags never deployed even though the front of my car looked like I hit a tree. We were traveling about 40 mph. I'm pregnant and had my other two children in the car with me. Just muscle strains and bruising. Has anyone ever been sucessful against Toyota??? I'm really scared of my car and what might happen next time.


    First of all, it wasn't a "head on" collision in the usual sense of the word, but more like front of the Camry into the corner or side of the other car, which turned left from the opposing lane in front of her Camry. Then the Camry went into a ditch.

    As I said in my prior post, the dollar amount of damage isn't indicative, and if you look at the photo of the damaged car here (the silver 2005 Camry in the upper right), you can see that it didn't take much of a frontal or side hit. Looked like it hit a tree? Yeah, maybe at the equivalent of 10 mph! Contrast with these photos of the IIHS frontal offset test 2002 Camry (structurally the same as the 2005 Camry) after a 40 mph hit into a deformable barrier.

    Interesting too that the photo caption says the driver was "severely injured," when in her own words she said she sustained "just muscle strains and bruising."

    This is how rumors and misinformation spread...

    And no, I'm not a Toyota employee, but I do know something about car crashes, both in the lab and in the real world.
  • Interesting too that the photo caption says the driver was "severely injured," when in her own words she said she sustained "just muscle strains and bruising."

    This is how rumors and misinformation spread...


    I didn't think that silver car stated it belonged Phyllis of Heflin LA

    I owned a 2006 Camry XLE... (beautiful car!!) And a couple of weeks ago had a sports car hit me broadside going 35 mph into the passenger side where I was sitting and all I can say is thank God for those side airbags and crumple zones. I think the car only moved inches and we're all ok, jumped out and started to dance around to prove we weren't hurt. Totaled out the car but it's so much more worth being physically ok.

    But it definitely would concern me if there was a recall and those owners were unaware of it. Safety is the MOST important.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    I was not referring to the Consumer Affairs site about a 2005 Camry.
    I was referring to the Motortrend site about 2007 Camry:
    http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2007/toyota/camry/recalls/index.html
    Glad to see that the normal procedure is to contact the car owners affected by first class mail but has Toyota followed that normal procedure to inform the owners of the 133 Camrys and has all 133 owners been successfully contacted?
    If Toyota affirms that it has successfully contacted all the owners of all 133 Camrys affected, I would agree with you that 2007 Camry owners should not have undue worry about that recall. If Toyota can not affirm that, then owners of Camrys in the early production should contact Toyota to see if they are affected.
    I do agree with you that alleged nondeployment does not necessarily mean that the airbag must be defective. But any responsible car manufacturer should look into every case seriously to see if there is any room for improvement even if the airbags appeared to react as intended by the manufacturer.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Glad you were all okay -- that's how side airbags are designed to protect you.

    Regarding the consumer affairs site, the silver Camry seems to match the one described by Phyllis (although not explicitly stated), and the car's either a 2005 or '06 based on the grille design.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    Recall procedures are spelled out by federal regulation. If the mail to the owner comes back "undeliverable," then the manufacturer is obligated to find the owner in some other manner, such as through state DMV records.

    This doesn't guarantee all owners are ultimately notified, and it is a good idea if you buy a used car to check with the manufacturer to be sure that your particular car has had all of its recall work completed.
  • jbolltjbollt Posts: 734
    I received a recall notice on my Highlander, a very minor thing, and I spaced it out. Two months later, I received another note, telling me that their records don't show the recall having been performd, and please: either get it to a dealer to have it done, or I no longer own the car, in which case they wanted the new owner's name and address. I'd say that is pretty good communication
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