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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    So you were "extremely happy" post TSB 50K+ miles? Did you bring your 2007 Camry to Toyota to replace the sticky gas pedal in response to the latest recall on January 21, 2010?
    If you did, that means you were extremely happy with a Camry having a potentially dangerous gas pedal. Ignorance is not bliss, at least not for those owners who got into an accident because the gas pedal stuck.
    If you did not, then you should even when you are extremely happy with the performance of your 2007 Camry after TSB.

    Who informed you about the TSB for reprogramming the computer? Why did some customers complain about Toyota not acknowledging there was a TSB for fixing the computer glitch that caused unintended acceleration?
    Is the latest sticky pedal recall for 2007 Camry just an excuse for Toyota to secretly reload the computers without confessing that it did not properly inform all affected Toyota owners about the TSB for fixing the computer glitch that may have cause the unintended acceleration in a number of fatal accidents and huge number of non-fatal accidents?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    edited February 2010
    No, I have not had the gas pedal fixed yet. I've felt the pedal action, I don't have any current issues.

    The earlier TSB you referenced was not a mandatory fix. I'm an engineer and strive for perfection, and I didn't like the way it was shifting. I suspect the reason of the issue is that they were trying to keep/lock it in high gear to eek out a extra couple tenths of mpg. I'd rather have the better 'performance'. My wife or daughter didn't notice or care. My brother who has same vehicle, didn't notice or care, or even have the TSB performed.

    These are complex control systems in all of the newer vehicles. Everything is computer controlled now, and unless one has knowledge and exposure to building these types of controls..... I don't think the average person understands or cares. When I was a kid and started driving, we would have to do a tuneup every 15-20K miles (points, plugs, condensor). Clutches would last maybe 30K miles, and you'd crank your own window. Today, we all expect vehicles to be error free for 150K miles, and even the dome light is computer controlled.

    Any manufacturer could have problems. My 2004 Ford Explorer actually DID have an accelerator pedal problem, loosing it's signal and outside of tolerance, and the vehicle limped home. The fix ??? .... a new gas pedal.

    My Chevy, has of course had the fix for the windshield fluid heater, to avoid the unintended fires that have happened if that heater shorted.

    My Harley has had a steering bearing problem.

    The point, I've not had one vehicle in the last 15 years that has not had something potentially seriously wrong with it. But I'll tell you, they run better than both our clothes washer and dish washer under multiple daily usage conditions. .

    I am actually intending to buy a 2nd Camry shortly, and the stock is a great investment opportunity (just bought some yesterday).....as the press continues to hammer Toyota. In my opinion, no need to get all emotional about this.
  • I also have a 2007 Camry and have not had a problem with the accelerator but I brought the car in anyways to have it fixed plus the service manager said there had been an earlier recall to replace the oil line hose. Both were done a few days ago. Better safe than sorry.
  • I hired a lawyer specialized in lemon-law vehicle and after he reviewed my case, he agreed to help me out. I had so many problems with my 2007 (46K) Camry from day one when I bought it new, such as brakes problems, engine hesitation, front end vibration, inside noises. Of course, the dealer, said everything is normal and nothing they can do, except they work/repair the brakes 3 times. After several attempt to resolve issues on my own with Toyota customer service (awful treatment by hanging up the phone on me), I decided to get legal help. Since a lawyer was involved, Toyota agreed to replace my 2007 Camry with brand new 2010 Camry. I was hoping to get rid of the car and just relive me from it. But, my lawyer said this is the best he can do for me after driving the car for 46k miles. Anyone experience something like that before? Or, any suggestion on what to do? Shall I take the deal or not?
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    You are an engineer and you have not had the gas pedal of your Toyota in the recall list fixed yet!!!
    Are you an engineer related to Toyota in anyway?
    Not necessarily working for Toyota, but a Toyota stock holder, perhaps, based on your recommendation of buying Toyota stocks. You call Toyota stock "a great investment" even though Toyota is being besieged by several lawsuits, including class action lawsuits, related to accidents cased by unintended acceleration! Amazing!

    You say the TSB that could solve the problem relating to unintended acceleration was NOT a not a mandatory fix!!! That's why so many 2007 Camry owners got into accidents because of unintended acceleration and why the 2007 Camry was the most complained related to Vehicle Speed Control in the NHTSA website.

    Your nonchalant attitude towards the gas pedal recall in spite of you being an engineer gives more weight to the suspicion that the latest Toyota gas pedal recall is just a smoke screen for fixing computer glitch that may cause unintended acceleration in Toyotas.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    edited February 2010
    Not related to Toyota in any way, form, or fashion.

    Yes, I am now a Toyota stockholder (as of last week). I bought Ford and Chevy stocks when they were beat down and sold them when they raised back up, bought a number of tech and banking stocks when they were beat down, and pharmaceuticals when they were beat down years ago. For a patient investor, these overreactions by the marketplace create some good contraian investment opportunities for quality companies. Three years from now, some other manufacturer will have negative marketplace news, and Toyota will be back up.

    Buy low, sell high.

    You say the TSB that could solve the problem relating to unintended acceleration was NOT a not a mandatory fix!!! That's why so many 2007 Camry owners got into accidents because of unintended acceleration and why the 2007 Camry was the most complained related to Vehicle Speed Control in the NHTSA website. Too bad you have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you get a copy of the TSB or do some technical research before you rant and rave on a topic, making assertions that have no factual basis.

    If you don't like the way Toyota is handling this, don't buy their vehicles, and hire a lawyer to litigate your case. You can protest with your pocketbook.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    Correction on post# 5024:You say the TSB that could solve the problem relating to unintended acceleration was " NOT a mandatory fix" !!!
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    I said in post #5024 "Are you an engineer related to Toyota in anyway?
    Not necessarily working for Toyota, but a Toyota stock holder, perhaps".

    It proves that my hunch of you being a Toyota stock holder is correct.
    You being a Toyota stock holder is considered by me to be related to Toyota in business, so don’t tell me the lie that you are not related to Toyota in any way, form, or fashion.

    Buy low, sell high. Exactly. Wonder how low Toyota stock will go when Toyota is found guilty of being responsible for the death of people killed in accidents involving run away Toyotas.

    Of course I had a good idea of what I talked about when I said the high rate of accidents in 2007 Camry related to unintended acceleration and 2007 Camry being the most complained related to speed control can be attributed to the TSB not being a mandatory fix.

    Since many 2007 Camry owners were not informed about the TSB and many 2007 Camry owners got into accident the first time they experience unintended acceleration, it is irresponsible for Toyota not to make the TSB for fixing the computer software a mandatory one. You say you have been "extremely happy post TSB", so why you think the other 2007 Camry owners should be deprived of their opportunity to be "extremely happy post TSB"? How can you be so selfish?

    You may try to defend Toyota’s wrong-doings in order to protect your investment in Toyota stock. I don't care how much qualification you have as an engineer, when there is an obvious conflict of interest, your opinion is no more trustworthy than the opinions of Toyota owners who had experienced the problems.

    So sue me if you have the money- Is that what you think Toyota should be telling it's customers?
    Is that how you think Toyota should be treating surviving victims and families of people killed in run away Toyotas?
    Is that how you think Toyota should be telling an innocent man being locked up to serve 8 years in jail when the prosecutor blamed him for mistakenly stepping on the gas pedal to accelerate a Camry up to 90 mph on the freeway OFFRAMP before hitting a car stopping at a red light causing the death of 3 people while covering up the fact that there are many complaints of unintended acceleration on the same model year on the NHTSA website?

    You should remember that the president of Toyota Motor Corp. apologized for safety problems that have led to massive worldwide recalls of its vehicles, he did not say- 'If you don't like the way Toyota is handling this, don't buy our vehicles, and hire a lawyer to litigate your case. You can protest with your pocketbook'.
  • houston_manhouston_man Posts: 34
    edited February 2010
    I am 50 years old, have owned Toyota's in one shape or form for over 15 years. I currently own a 2007 Camry XLS, which happens to be on the recall list for the accelerator problem, of which I have not had a problem.

    I can tell you that at least with MY car, I have had ZERO issues and it now has 50,000 miles.
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    edited February 2010
    A couple points, and then I'll let you talk to yourself on this.

    1.) First, a contrarian investor, invests in companies that are beat down and having problems in the marketplace. The public tends to overreact, selling their stock positions, and the stock price drops lower than the fundamentals would indicate that it should be. If one then buys these stock opportunities, as a good company works their way out of the these problems, the stock eventually rises back to normal valuations, and one can make money off of other investors who dumped the stock unnecessarily in the first place. So my buying stock in this company is a pure financial play against those investors who are selling the stock. If you consider that related to Toyota in business, okay, that's your opinion.

    AP article

    2.) Secondly, you may be 'related to Toyota in business', and not even realize it. If you have any mutual fund investments, those mutual funds could have Toyota stock in their portfolio. If you work for a company with a 401K, or if you have a pension plan, then those could very well have Toyota in their stock porfolio. If you work for a company that makes a product or perform some service, Toyota may be a customer of yours.

    3.) Thirdly, I'll help you here on the TSB. The TSB was a performance enhancement, and adjusted the engines fuel mixture power output, and the transmission shift points in the computer. It better matched the engine and transmission shift points, so (for example) that while cruising at highway speeds the vehicle could better maintain a constant vehicle speed without having to downshift from 5th gear with torque converter lock up, down to third. I have no idea how or why you would want to try and link that to any accelerator pedal or un-intended acceleration issues. It's apples and oranges.

    Perhaps an analogy might help. Let's say your kitchen sink waterflow is slow and you really like a lot of water flow to fill the pots up quickly. You call the plumber, who comes out and puts in a 3/8" feed/riser pipe, as opposed to the 1/4" that was there. You're now happy, but a week later notice you are having slow septic problems. You call the plumber back and complain that he messed up your septic system. Well they are both plumbing problems you reason, but unfortunately totally unrelated.

    The TSB is like the waterfill pipe. The original was fine for many/most families. For those that experience and report it to a delaer, they will get the TSB. If I don't use the cruise control or care how fast a pot fills, nobody is going to mess with my plumbing. A slow septic on the other hand is more critical, like unintended acceleration, and gets a recall.

    Enjoy your ride.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    Congratulations for being 'lucky' enough to be owning a 2007 Camry without unintended acceleration so far.

    Statistics speaks fairer than the testimony of just a few individuals regardless of their motives.
    Year [Speed Control] [Pedal] [Cruise Control] [Cable or Linkage] = Speed Control Related Complaints
    1990 7+8+0+1=16
    1991 5+1+0+0=6
    1992 7+4+2+2=15
    1993 12+4+0+1=17
    1994 11+2+2+2=17
    1995 8+1+4+1=14
    1996 18+2+11+1=32
    1997 13+2+1+2=18
    1998 32+12+4+7=55
    1999 31+8+1+2=42
    2000 39+11+2+3=55
    2001 16+4+0+1=21
    2002 135+20+4+5=164
    2003 121+19+3+0=143
    2004 79+18+2+1=100
    2005 75+9+3+0=87
    2006 39+1+0+0=40
    2007 143+24+15+0=173
    2008 28+1+1+0=30
    2009 56+5+0+0=61

    If I were you, I would be practicing how to stop the 2007 Camry safely by shifting to neutral just in case the apparently normal 2007 Camry suddenly accelerates up to 100 mph like the Lexus under the professional care of a rental car company before being rented to the hapless CHP officer.
  • notmybmwnotmybmw Posts: 101
    Take the 2010 replacement and RUN!!

    If you're very old (i.e. over 40) you know that this is virtually unheard of in the industry. (If you're UNDER forty....just ask around!)

    Big car manufacturers would almost rather go bankrupt than "replace" a car. (That's how/why 'lemon laws' got started in the first place: car companies NEVER took back bad cars......they just fixed 'em and fixed 'em and fixed 'em...even though they never did get FIXED!)

    Take it, buddy!
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    You will let me talk to myself on this? Six other members besides you responded directly to my posts since I talk about the Toyota recall. Please don’t disrespect other members like they don’t exist at all just because they don’t have or don’t brag about having an engineer credential like you do. Even if no members response, I would be talking to Toyota. If you think talking to Toyota is talking to myself, your attitude towards complaint and criticism is no different from that of the apathetic Toyota administrators.

    If Toyota stock goes down further because Toyota loses in the lawsuits involving unintended acceleration, a Toyota investor would not be happy about it.
    If Toyota stock goes up because Toyota with it’s huge financial resources is able to win the lawsuits by convincing the judges to issue judgments that blame the Toyota owners for stepping on the gas pedal by mistake just because Toyota says so, a Toyota investor with a conscience would not be happen either because the hapless Toyota customers and their families are victimized yet again.
    Of course, there are investors who would care less if the hapless Toyota owners are blamed unjustifiably for causing fatal accidents by stepping on the gas pedal instead of the brake or even put in jail as a scapegoat for Toyota, as long as the Toyota stock goes up again.
    So until Toyota stock goes further down after being sentenced to compensate the victims or victims’ families and Toyota starts to learn from its mistakes, I would not say that Toyota stock is a good investment for investors.

    I was talking about people who buy Toyota stock lately as an individual investor with the hope that Toyota will win the lawsuits related to unintended acceleration. I was not talking about group investment like 401K. Nice try using deceptive argument.

    I was talking about the large number of complaints about vehicle speed control on 2007 Camry, an overwhelming majority of which were related to unintended acceleration. You were the one who answered my post #5016 about the blip in 2007 Camry in your post #5019 and mentioned that the problem was fixed with a TSB. So you, not me, were the one who tried to confuse the issue of unintended acceleration with the issue of acceleration hesitation.

    I’m enjoying my ride alright. But thankfully it’s not a Toyota.

    I wish Toyota would not make it a standard practice to blame their hapless customers in fatal accidents for stepping on the gas pedal by mistake and would deal with all possible causes of unintended acceleration in their vehicles seriously even if it would mean having to expose more defects of their DBW system and that Toyota stock will go further down before come back up.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    I suggest that you go to the NHTSA website to read about the complaints of 2010 Camry owners before you decide if you should accept the offer from the dealership of replacing your lemon 2007 Camry with a brand new 2010 Camry.

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/

    In my previous posts, I suggested people to choose options relating to Vehicle Speed Control when checking out complaints. However, I just found out that the complainants may complain about unintended acceleration under electrical system, power train, fuel system, gasoline, unknown or other as well as vehicle speed control. Therefore, I suggest you NOT to select any specific component so that you can read all complaints related to unintended acceleration as well as other problems related to the 2010 Camry.
    Click on Get Summary to read the complaints.

    I had a 2007 Camry with acceleration hesitation like yours. I traded it in after owning it for a very short time and I’m glad that I decided not to buy another Toyota ever again.

    It was a pain in the neck to deal with acceleration hesitation of the 2007 Camry 4cyl when merging onto the freeway. However, I consider the unintended acceleration as reported by many 2010 Camry owners posts much greater danger to the life of the driver as well as other people on the road.

    Hope you will make the right decision.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    I'd counter that you have to take every complaint with some degree of skepticism. Some people will complain about anything, and others will blame the vehicle when maybe, just maybe, they made a mistake while driving.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    If you check out the complaints against 2010 Camry on the NHTSA website you can see that there are 46 complaints. Some complaints are filed under different components
    20 Camry owners are willing to provide their Vehicle Identification Numbers (VIN) for the complaint.
    A large numbers of the complaints have something to do with unintended acceleration.

    If the 2010 Camry owners experience only minor problems without causing accidents, I don’t think they would reveal their Vehicle Identification Number and then lie or exaggerate on the internet that there is something seriously wrong with their 2010 Camry. To do so would mean depreciation in the resale value of their 2010 Camrys.
    I have no doubt that those 2010 Camry owners who provide the VINs have experience serious problem(s) that prompt them to make the complaints.
    On the other hand, I am very skeptical of Toyota’s claim that ONLY floor mat entrapment and stuck gas pedal are to blame for the huge numbers of complaints of unintended acceleration. I also despise Toyota for blaming some vulnerable Toyota owners for stepping on the wrong pedal and speeding the vehicle to 90 mph or more on the highway before crashing in spite of the fact that it is very unlikely for drivers to step on the wrong pedal while cruising on the highway as compared to starting or parking a vehicle in the parking lot. It is even far more unlikely for drivers driving on the highway to keep on stepping on the gas pedal by mistake long enough to speed the vehicle up to 90 mph or more without realizing his or her foot is on the wrong pedal while trying to slow down or stop the vehicle.

    For comparison, there are only 3 complaints against the 2010 Accord by two people in the NHTSA website. One provides the VIN. The other did not. None of the complaints has to do with unintended acceleration.

    The profiles of Toyota owners are not much different from that of Honda owners. There is no reason at all to support the crazy idea that only 2010 Toyota Camry owners would be prone to mistake the gas for the brake while the Honda Accord owners would not. There is also no reason at all to support the crazy idea that only 2010 Toyota Camry owners would like to bad-mouth and depreciate the value of their new cars while the Honda Accord owners would not.

    OK, if you are still not convinced that there is something wrong with the 2010 Camry, then may be a recall of the 2010 Camry would.
    It’s no joke. Toyota has issued a recall of 7,300 of its 2010 Camry on Feb 9, 2010.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/10/business/main6192754.shtml
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    edited February 2010
    OK, if you are still not convinced that there is something wrong with the 2010 Camry, then may be a recall of the 2010 Camry would.
    It’s no joke. Toyota has issued a recall of 7,300 of its 2010 Camry on Feb 9, 2010.


    Funny, but this cited recall has nothing to do with sudden acceleration and amounts to maybe a week's worth of production!

    And I don't think there's anything seriously wrong with the '10 Camry other than the ongoing efforts regarding the floor mats and the "sticky" gas pedal. Sean Kane claims my 2004 and 2005 Camrys are prone to accelerating wildly out of control also because of the electronics/software.

    I'm hardly cringing in fear. The cars have a total of nearly 115K miles between them and I've never experienced the slightest "blip" in the throttle mechanisms. So call me skeptical.

    I'm sure there will be a ton of complaints about future Camrys now that the cat is out of the bag, so to speak. Every incident will be blamed on sudden acceleration.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    Correction for post #5020:
    If you did, that means you (should not have been) extremely happy with a Camry having a potentially dangerous gas pedal. Ignorance is not bliss, at least not for those owners who got into an accident because the gas pedal stuck.
    If you did not, then you should even when you are extremely happy with the performance of your 2007 Camry after TSB.
  • nmt001nmt001 Posts: 124
    I don't think it's funny at all. Even though this recall has nothing to do with sudden acceleration, it has something to do with the possibility of leaking brake fluid, which is an extremely dangerous combination with sudden acceleration that many 2010 Camry owners complained about on the NHTSA website.

    Please read the following complaint (ODI #10293611) taken from the NHTSA website:

    11/24/09 I WAS DRIVING MY 2010 CAMRY IN A PARKING LOT. MY CHILDREN WERE IN THE BACK SEAT. I WAS TRAVELING 10 MPH. MY RIGHT FOOT WAS NOT ON THE GAS, NOR THE BRAKE, THE TORQUE OF THE ENGINE WAS SUFFICIENT FOR MOVING US ALONG WHILE LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPACE. MY RIGHT FOOT WAS ABOVE THE BRAKE AS I WAS SLOWLY LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPOT. SUDDENLY, I HEARD A VERY LOUD VVRROOOMMMM AND THE CAR SPONTANEOUSLY ACCELERATED AND LUNGED FORWARD APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET. THANKFULLY, I WAS ABLE TO BRAKE QUICKLY AND STOPPED THE CAR. I THEN TOOK IT TO THE DEALERSHIP. CONICELLI RAN A DIAGNOSTIC ON MY CAR. LATER THAT DAY WHEN I PICKED UP THE CAR, THEY SAID THEY FOUND NOTHING. WHEN I ASKED THEM WHERE THE "SPONTANEOUS ACCELERATION" (A PROBLEM TOYOTA EARLIER IN THE DAY TOLD ME THEY WERE HAVING) WOULD HAVE APPEARED ON THE DIAGNOSTIC, THEY WERE AT A LOSS. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR THAT THERE WAS NOT A FLOOR MAT IN THE DRIVER'S SIDE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE "SPONTANEOUS ACCELERATION" WAS CAUSED BY THE "MAT ISSUE." I KNOW MY EXPERIENCE WAS REAL AND NOT CAUSED BY DRIVER ERROR. I FEEL THE PROBLEM IS ELSEWHERE AND EXACERBATED FOR SOME DRIVERS BECAUSE THEY HAD THE FLOOR MATS IN PLACE. PLEASE PRESS TOYOTA TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS ISSUE. I NO LONGER FEEL SAFE IN MY 2010 TOYOTA CAMRY THAT I BOUGHT FOR SAFETY REASONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. *TR THANK YOU.
    (Bold type mine.)

    Note that there was no floor mat on the 2010 Carmy and the driver's foot was above the brake when the "spontaneous acceleration" happened, so floor mat entrapment and sticky pedal cannot explain the dangerous anomaly.

    Your blind faith that there's nothing seriously wrong with the '10 Camry other than the ongoing efforts regarding the floor mats and the "sticky" gas pedal" is not shared by me, nor by the 2010 Camry owner who experienced the "spontaneous acceleration", nor by the independent safety expert, Sean Kane.

    With Toyota insisting only floor mat entrapment and sticky gas pedal to blame and your staunch support for Toyota, I wonder why you did not come to the conclusion that after all floor mats and gas pedals have been fixed in the recalled Toyotas, every sudden acceleration incident in those vehicles will be blamed on the driver stepping on the wrong pedal. That should be a more probable scenario than every incident will be blamed on sudden acceleration by Toyota owners.
  • I have a 07 Camry LE.About 6 mths ago I noticed a poor idle when the air condition is turned on then it would go away.Lately it is doing now without the air being truned on.I took it to the dealer and they said no bad codes registered.At this p[oint they have blamed it on the battery.The battery was checked out as well as the alternator, and they both checked out ok.Any advice please?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Not sure how anyone over the internet could shoot this problem with the limited symptoms you provided, over the people that have looked at it first hand.

    Why did the dealer suggest the battery? Measured low voltage ?

    Did you then not have the dealer replace the battery, but took it somewhere else to check the battery? If so, did they perform a full load test on the battery and alternator? This battery may or may not be the cause of your problem, but you are probably at (or close to end) of the useful life of that battery if it is the original. I have an '07 (actual build date on drivers door jamb sticker April of '06), and my battery needed replacing about 3 months ago. So you should be thinking of replacing your original battery anyhow as a preventive measure so you don't get stuck somewhere.

    Back to your problem, could be any number of things. I would make sure the mass air flow sensor is clean as well.
  • notmybmwnotmybmw Posts: 101
    Hi, guys.

    Dave, I was curious to see you mention the "mass air flow sensor". I've never even heard of this; what is it?

    I have the exact same vintage Camry as you, and I, too, have been experiencing rough idle, strangely, ever since replacing my plugs and air filter about two months ago....which I thought would have smoothed things out, if anything.

    Technology (and Toyota) works in mysterious ways!!

    P.S. I'd be VERY surprised if the battery were the cause of Morley's problem.....especially if it's had no problem cranking the engine.....wouldn't you?
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    edited February 2010
    Mass Air Flow Sensor measures the amount of air flowing thru the throttle valve. The ECM computer uses this information to determine the fuel injection time and to provide the appropriate air-fuel ratio.

    Inside the MAF is a heated platinum wire which is exposed to the intake air. By supplying a specific electrical current to the wire, the ECM heats it to a given temperature. The flow of incoming cool air cools both the wire and an internal thermistor, affecting their resistance. ECM computer reads this and uses this as one of the inputs to determine how much fuel to shoot thru the injectors. I'd expect a DTC of P010x for a MAF problem, if identified and detected by the computer.

    In regards to the battery question, the OP indicated that the dealer suspected the battery. Could have had a low voltage at that time, serious amount of corrosion (which causes a resistance, dropping apparent voltage as seen at the fuse block), or who knows what other kind of problems given voltage affects many different sensors.....all used as inputs to the computer. If battery 'checked' by someone else, hard to know what or how they checked it.....and why that is now inconsistent with dealer feedback.

    Given the age of the battery, I would start there first to make sure the battery and alternator and cable connections are absolutely known to be good and supplying a good stable voltage to the vehicle. As an example of the MAF above, the sensor could be providing a low output voltage. If you replace the sensor, the new one may also provide a low output voltage. The reason, the 'input' voltage to the sensor is too low to begin with. So start with a good known voltage as a base, and troubleshoot from there.
  • I Have a 07 Camry le with the 4 cyl. also. Did you ever find out your idle problem? Mine is ok when in park but has slight engine vibration when in drive with no ac on and then more if you have the ac on. The engine rpm's are at 750. Thanks for your help.
  • For about a year now my camry has had a slight engine vibration when sitting still and in drive with no a/c on. When the a/c is on there is a little more. It idles smooth when in park or neutral. The rpm's are at 750. Does anyone know what causes this? The car did not do this for the first 45,000 miles or so. Thanks for your help.
  • I've recently started noticing the same exact thing on my 07 Camry with 36 000 miles on it. A lot of times it's the worn out motor or transmission mounts, but somehow i don't think that's what it is with our cars. They are simply not old enough yet, but with Toyota quality being what it is nowadays, you never know.
  • I did have to replace the top "dog bone" motor mount because it was cracked. The car now has over 70,000 miles on it and the vibration just came up slowly over the last year. It is slight when in drive and sitting still otherwise you never know it is there. In park the engine runs smooth.I don't think it is one of the other mounts because I thought these were fluid filled. The problem is how to determine if it is and which one. I also tried cleaning the throttle body but it did not seem to help. If anyone comes up with something let me know. Thanks
  • I have a 2007 Camry that is leased. I do not feel safe driving this car anymore and fear for the safety of my family when they are with me. My lease is up in August and in light with everything going on what if any grounds do I have to stand on to turn my car in early so I can go buy a Honda. I was a loyal Honda driver for years but I really liked the new design of the Camry. I guess looks isn't everything. Thanks for any helpful info.
  • 210delray210delray Posts: 4,722
    You'll have to pay to turn it in early. Just get the recalls taken care of, and remember if the gas pedal sticks (which is highly unlikely), step hard on the brakes and shift into neutral.

    There are a lot more unsafe things on the highway to worry about than sticking gas pedals -- how about drunks or distracted drivers around you in traffic? Tractor-trailers with out-of-adjustment brakes or exhausted drivers? Boy racers in a hurry?
  • I also have an '07 Camry, and, like you, I feel concerned about this problem. That said, I took the car to my dealer, and they performed all recalls to date. For now, that's all I can do, and I'm choosing not to worry about it, God forbid something happens with the gas pedal, my family has been told by me to sue the hell out of Toyota.
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