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2007 Toyota Camry Problems and Repairs

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  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning Vizyo:
    I am very interested in your posting about "oil consumption"! I own a 2007 V6 XLE Camry with 32,000 miles. This vehicle is serviced by the selling dealer every 2,500 miles, (oil & filter). (I know that the recommended service is at 5,000 miles, but I made a choice to cut that service interval in half)!
    My vehicle does not use any oil between oil and filter changes, and I do mostly high speed driving, (65 mph). Since the selling dealer does all of my service, I do not know what oil is being used in the vehicle. The dealer does recommend a "oil additive" which I do use, (BG / MOA)! The engine is VERY quiet both at idle and at start-up even in cold weather.
    Since I live in Northern New Jersey, I make it a point to warm-up the engine on cold winter mornings prior to traveling. (YES, I know that it is not recommended, but in life you need to make your own decisions!) I simply like a warm vehicle, and most of the time there is frost on the windows that needs to be removed, so I kill to birds with on stone!

    QUESTIONS:
    Could this condition be connected to a piston ring issue. Some vehicles accumulate carbon around the piston rings, and this locks the rings in the grooves of the piston. Because of this condition, the rings cannot follow the sides of the cylinder walls and the engine uses oil!
    What brand of fuel are you using?
    How often do you change your oil? (Oil & Filters are cheap, ---- engines are expensive!)

    NOTE:
    There are fuel additives on the market that are safe for the oxygen sensor to help to correct this issue. ("BG" is one of the companies that makes a fuel additive. There are many others on the market. Ask your toyota dealer.)

    FUEL CONSUMPTION:
    My driving is mostly highway. I average 30mpg on the highway without using the cruise control. At times I have had this figure up to 34mpg! This has been done on both "name brand" and "off brand fuel"!

    Write back when you have the opportunity. ----- Best regards! ----- Dwayne :shades:
  • vizyovizyo Posts: 35
    I was not told anything specific. They just told me to bring the car in at every 1000km, they will check the oil level and record it. They will repeat this 5 times. If the oil consumption is excessive, they will report it to Toyota. Then Toyota will give instructions to the service. What I learned from Toyota service is that everything is normal to them. They just find a way around it all the time. According to Toyota, burning 1 liter oil for every 1500km is normal. I first thought that it was a joke !! If this is the case, after driving 4000km, there will be no oil remaining in the engine. And this is still normal !!

    I never heard that a new car burns so much oil. There is also black smut on the exhaust that we usually see on very old cars. ABS system also makes very
    loud "thuck" noise twice at certain speeds. They said it was normal too !!

    I had too many other problems with this car since the first day I bought it. It has been a huge disappointment.

    I have now 12,000km on my camry. I do not know if Toyota service uses any additive in the oil. I use highest grade fuel (supreme) all the time. I change the oil at every 4000km.

    I do average 28mpg on highway driving. In the city it goes down to 18~19mpg, which is far from what Toyota advertises. All these numbers are with very decent driving.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning Vizyo:
    The defective PCV valve can cause a vehicle to burn excessive oil!

    I average between 22 & 24 mpg in city driving with my XLE Camry, (I drive in a small town in New Jersey.) On the highway, I get 30mpg without any trouble.

    Are you using the correct weight of oil for this engine?

    Have the dealer perform a compression test on this engine. If the engine is burning this amount of oil, the spark plugs and the test will tell the story!

    How is the "power" in this engine? My V6 XLE will "snap your neck" if you accelerate hard when entering a highway!

    When coasting down a long hill on the highway and then accelerating do you see a cloud of smoke coming from the exhaust? ------ If this is the case, the oil is entering the combustion chamber through the valve guides.

    Write back when you have the opportunity. ------ Dwayne :shades:
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    before taking it in I'd check it myself and then drain a little more out just to get the job done.
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    They have a tamper proof seal.
  • sunilvsunilv Posts: 26
    I have done all the TSB released for transmission issues. I have done the latest TSB and it is better now than ever before. But the problem for me I feel a jerk in 1st and 2nd shifts. I asked the Dealer to test it and they just reset the Computer memory and asked me to drive about 50 miles with stop and go in slow traffic roads. I thought when I did the TSB it will reset the memory. Will it?
    Now even after 150 miles my car jerks in 1st and 2nd shifts. My car is a 07 Camry 4 Cyli Auto Trans bought in 2006 Apr.

    Is there any problem with my torque conertor or transmission? Please help me anyone, bcos I want to ditch this car if it is going to be fixed after my warranty expires.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Hi mcdawqq:
    QUESTION:
    Is the "tamper proof seal" on the oil stick, or on the crankcase plug? If it is on the "oil stick," how can the person check the oil on a long road trip?

    Best regards. ------------ Dwayne :shades: :confuse: ;) :)
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Hi vizyo:
    Since I have the same vehicle, I am very interested in your excessive oil consumption problem. Please keep us informed as the process unfolds!
    Best regards. ----- Dwayne :shades: :confuse: ;) :)
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    I don't know for sure, I would think both, because if I wanted to falsify the oil level, I could take oil out of the dipstick hole with one of those pump things.
  • vizyovizyo Posts: 35
    Hello Dwayne,
    I am now trying to do the first 1000km after the last oil change. I am expecting to take it to the service sometime next week. I have been precisely measuring the level myself as well. I really want to hear from other owners if they have the same problem.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning Vizyo:
    I understand your concern with this vehicle. Monday, I had my oil and filter changed at the Toyota Dealership in Northern New Jersey in preparation for a road trip that I will be doing in September. Prior to taking the Camry to the dealership, I checked the oil level in the engine. There was 2,500 miles on this oil, and the oil level was at the "FULL MARK"! ------ ( I change my oil every 2,500 miles rather than at 5,000 miles as recommended. I take this action because I do not believe that Toyota has solved the "sludge issue" with their new engines. I have this service done at the dealer, because should this engine develop an issue all of my service records are in one place. This vehicle is also covered by a Toyota 6 year / 100,000 mile extended warranty. Should something happen to this engine that is "oil related" I would like to see a Toyota Factory Rep try to refuse warranty coverage!)

    BACK TO YOUR VEHICLE:

    You have a V6 Toyota that is using / burning one quart of oil every 1,500. miles. I have a V6 Toyota that is nor using / burning any oil between oil and filter changes that are done every 2,500 miles.

    If the Toyota Service Manager and / or the Toyota Factory Representative tells you that this is "normal" for V6 Toyota engines to use / burn one quart of oil every 1,500 miles oil, then that means that there must be something wrong with my V6 engine, because it does not use any oil! -------- QUESTIONS: ---- Should I now bring this condition to the attention of the service manager of my dealership, and quote your service people? ------- Does Toyota need to do something to my engine to get it to burn oil every 1,500 miles?

    All of us on this board know that it is NOT NORMAL for an engine to use one quart of oil every 1,500 miles. ----- (Let's not drink the corporate coolaid!) ------- I have a friend who owns a 27' Cabin Boat with a 7.4 V8 engine. He runs this boat at 3,400 RPM for hours, and never uses oil between oil and filter changes which are done every 50 hours. The average land based vehicle runs about 2,000 RPM, so if any engine was to use oil, it should be a boat engine!

    If you are going to keep this vehicle, I would put a "top of the line" Toyota extended warranty on this vehicle. You will need this coverage because this condition will only get worse over time!

    After the dealer completes the oil level test, ask them to perform a "compression test" and a "cylinder balance test". When they perform a "compression test" they will have to pull all the spark plugs. The "test" and the "condition of the spark plugs" will tell the story! -------- If your engine is using that much oil, your engine is suffering from a Piston Ring, or a Valve Guide, or a PVC issue,----- or a combination of all three!

    Please keep us informed.

    Best regards.
    Dwayne :shades: :confuse: ;) :)
  • vizyovizyo Posts: 35
    Hello Dwayne,

    Thank you for your informative post.

    I forgot to mention that my camry is 2.4 LE 4 cylinder and I live in Canada.

    I will take a trip tomorrow and bring it to 1000km for the first check. I told the issue to my colleagues at work, they did not believe me !! No one heard that a new car burns so much oil.

    I am expecting to take the car to Toyota service this week. I will keep you informed.

    Best regards,
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    Very unusual - this engine has been around since 2003, and is very reliable, no problems with oil burning. As with anything mechanical, there can be an error. Please let us know!
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I have read many stories on many sites and it seems like all car manufacturers go by the same story. 1 quart per 1000 is not to much oil to burn. I too don't agree but I doubt you will get anywhere.
  • djm2djm2 Posts: 705
    Good Morning Vizyo:

    QUESTIONS:
    What weight oil is the dealer putting into your engine when they change the oil and filter?

    What is the "brand of oil" that is being used?

    Based on the "owner's manual" what weight oil is recommended for your engine?

    NOTE:
    In one of your other postings, you mentioned about a stain on the rear of your vehicle, as a result of the exhaust fumes from the burning oil. ----- Tell the dealer that this condition in not acceptable, because other four cylinder Toyota vehicles do not have this visible problem! ---- See how they react to that comment!

    SIDE BAR NOTE:
    As a result of this issue, Toyota is getting a lot of publicity ---- ALL NEGATIVE on this board! --------- I often wonder what goes through the heads of upper corporate management when it comes to an issue like this? ----- What does an engine cost Toyota? ----- It is obvious that this engine has a problem. ----- Send a new fully dressed engine to the dealer. ----- Exchange engine! ---- Get the customer back on the road! ----- Give the customer a top of the line extended Toyota warranty at no cost, and use the issue as a POSITIVE advertisement for the corporation and the product! ------- Send the old engine back to the factory to be exaimed. ----- DO NOT INCONVENIENCE THE CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They purchase your products!

    Because of their delay, they have created an issue that will exist on the "net" for a very long time! ---- It is time for Toyota management to look at their policies from the customer's point of view. ----- Make it easy for the customer to do business with you! ----- When something goes wrong, admit the error, and fix the probelm ASAP!

    Best regards: ------------- Dwayne :shades: :confuse: ;) :)
  • I got a 2007 4 cyl, Camry two years ago. They came out early. At that time this forum was loaded with transmission problem posts for ALL makes of Toyota, I had the delay and 40 mph drag problems. Toyota had no TSB's out yet. The dealer and two district managers said my problems were normal, After several calls to the 1-800 number in California and getting the same that's normal answer. I told them I have not been so mad at anyone since December 7, 1941. I got the first TBS about six months later, which did very little to fix the problem and the second TSB about a year later which basically increased the fuel mixture resulting in less delay and drag problems but poor gas mileage. There is nothing you can do about this problem except what you wrote in your post--ditch the car and never buy another Toyota!
  • Thats exacly what i did --ditch the car and never buy another Toyota! I bought a 2008 Accord and never been happier
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,666
    My '07 just had the TSB 068-08 done - car runs PERFECT, gas mileage the same as always on my normal work route - around 31 mpg.
  • A tough one for anyone who might be able to help. The problem: No back-up lights in any scenario. Fuse checked. Bulbs checked. Additional strange info and associated problem: With any exterior drive lights selected, regardless of gear, the "R" reverse indicator lights up as well as the selected gear. With all exterior lights off, gear indicator works normally. Car starts and runs fine. Additional info: Turn knob / Light control assembly was recently changed with no correction. Also, Neutral Safety Switch also replaced without affect. I'd go with the back-up switch next, but the gear indicator problem throws me off the scent. What does anyone think? I appreciate your help.
    Paul
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    First, check and/or replace the 10A Gauge fuse. That is the fuse that powers the backup switch, which then feeds the rear lights.

    If that doesn't work let me know, and I'll give you two other things to check to isolate the problem further.
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