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Infiniti M35/M45 vs BMW 5-Series

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  • achonkoachonko Posts: 51
    Not really. I actually meant 528(I6) vs M35(V6) and 535i(I6) vs M45(V8) on the following basis.
    Price: what is the price difference because the pairing is first based on pricing.
    Performance: what will be the performance difference- how close are the respective cars in the bracket?
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    Interesting. When I told the BMW dealer I was looking at the M35, he took us directly to the 530xi. Did not even mention the 525 (now the 528). The similar equipped 530 was actually $10 less per month (lease) than the M35.

    I havent seen any website or car magazine compare the M45 to a 535 anywhere.

    Anytime i see the M45, you always see the E550, GS430, A6 4.2 and 550 in the same sentence.

    Guess we are getting our information from different places.

    I normally refer to Motor Trend, Car and Drive, Road and Track, etc....

    Kudos to BMW for improving the engine. The 530 (I6) with 255 HP was WEEEEAAAAAAKKKKKKK. Im sure the new engine will hold its own next to the M35.

    Either way, all great cars.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    "Kudos to BMW for improving the engine. The 530 (I6) with 255 HP was WEEEEAAAAAAKKKKKKK. Im sure the new engine will hold its own next to the M35. "

    That's one perspective. I, persoanally, wouldn't consider the m35, one reason being the engine. It had a little more power(25hp) then the 3.0L BMW engine, but it's loud, thrashy, heavy, and very thirsty. That just doesn't seem worth it for a .3 second 1/4 mile gap... My buddy with a g35 says he's happy to get 21-22mph highways.

    OTOH, the newer BMW engine has 300hp, 300lb-ft, and has the positive traits of the older motor. It's been dynoed at ~350hp--which would make it more of an m45 competitor..
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    So which Infiniti M competes against a BMW 550 in your world?
  • sixpaqssixpaqs Posts: 21
    None. The 550 is awesome.
  • achonkoachonko Posts: 51
    The next 550i engine upgrade(N64B44O1 engine) will put it at the Audi S6 doorstep
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    You must be in the same world as dhanley. Hows the weather?
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    The AUDI S6 competes with the BMW M5.
  • achonkoachonko Posts: 51
    BMW 335(300 HP)i vs Au di S4 (340 HP)
    BMW M3 (420HP)vs Audi RS4 (420 HP)
    BMW 550i(360 HP) vs Audi S6(435 HP)
    BMW M5 (507 HP) vs Audi RS6 (520+HP)

    So the S6 is not a direct competitor to the M5, it is currently being compared to the M5 because of the absence of the RS6 for the time being.
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    I guess were getting off the point of this conversation.

    If someone is looking at a M45, they are also looking at the BMW 550i, Audi A6 4.2, MB E550, Lexus GS430, etc...

    All 8 cylinder engines.

    But Thank You for the SPECS on the AUDI.
  • kivikivi Posts: 12
    Hard for me to understand how the Beemer costs less than the M35, because that is the polar opposite experience that we just faced (in Canada). We compared, and test drove extensively the usual choices from BMW Lexus, Audi, and Infiniti. When we compared the loaded M35x to a similarly equiped BMW 530xi, the lease payment would be $1035montly for the M35x, vs over $1500/month for the BMW. We have driven 3 Bimmers in the past, but there was no way that we could justify paying so much more for the BMW. Our new M35x is due to arrive in 2 weeks. I hope we will be happy with our choice.
  • sixpaqssixpaqs Posts: 21
    Pretty nice, I gotta tell you. Low 80's, sunny, not very humid. Overall, very pleasant!

    I am sorry, but I drove the 5 series vs. the M when I went to get a new car in January. I was coming from a Mercedes and an Audi before that and was completely impartial to both BMW and Infiniti.

    I liked the design of the 5 series over the rather bland (IMO) design of the M. And the driving experience of the 5 over the M is much better. Again, my opinion. You may have yours.

    But I do think the 5 is a much better car than the Infiniti, thought the M is a huge step forward for them, and infinitely (oops!) better than the Lexus, which I didn't even fit it. I am over 6'4".
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    Come to the US. You can lease a similarly equipped 530xi for less than a M35x.
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    I wish I felt the same way. The BMW was a fun drive. The GS was WAY to tight for me too. (Im 6'2) The interior of the GS was very impressive though. The 5 Series interior was just so plain. (IMO) It didnt feel luxurious at all. The interior of the M (with the WOOD TRIM) was much nicer.

    I aree the styling of the 5 series is pretty nice, especially with the Style 123 Sport Rims. The 18 inch rims give it a very good look. I wish they would have offered those rims on the Xi. I may have jumped on it. Especially to save a few bucks. (The 5 series lease was about $10 less per month)
  • I agree. Just drove the 550i and M45 today. Left with the 550i.
  • papsephuspapsephus Posts: 15
    You will never truly appreciate the BMW until you get a chance to drive it at the BMW performance Center in Greenville, SC. You can sign up for one of the driving classes starting at $400 - $500 which lasts all day on saturday and they even provide you with lunch.

    This is where you find the car's capabilities of braking, traction, steering, and no body roll.

    My wife drives a 745Li that avg 26 mpg on the highway. I feel safer in this vehicle with my 1 year old son than in any other vehicle I have driven. Why? Because I know the handling capabilities of the vehicle.

    I like the M45, but am partial to BMW because of what I had a chance to experience with it (plus the better gas mileage with a larger car). I have not had a chance to go through the same rigorous driving with the M, but I don't think I need to.

    I advise anyone to take the BMW driving school at the BMW center. This is where they actually make the x5 and the 3 series. Besides learning driving skills, you will get a chance to see why you pay the extra money for the BMW. Trust me, you get what you pay for.
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    26MPG!!! Wow...very impressive.
  • papsephuspapsephus Posts: 15
    Yes. That is doing about 75 mph on the highway. Remember that this is a 6 speed transmission and at 75 mph the engine hangs around 2000 to 2500 RPMs. It drops considerably when driving in stop and go traffic just like any other vehicle.

    It still does not beat my 2000 Toyota Corrola in gas mileage, but my toyota is not a mile long and have 325 horses.

    My point is that there is much more going on in the vehicle than meets the eye, which is why most people would say they are overpriced. I agree that they are expensive and may not ever be able to afford to get another one, but that does not discount the fact the it is a performer. Plus I think the maintenence is build into the price. 67k miles and not a single penny paid yet for maintence. New brakes, new torque converter, new worn parts, new trunk motor, etc. Not a penny paid. Tires are expensive, though (which I did have to pay for).
  • hpia4v2hpia4v2 Posts: 62
    At least to me, what put Nissan (Datsun) in automobiles' map was the Z240/260 ("fair lady") back in seventies and the reason, inline 6 engine

    What makes W124 Benz e-class as one of the longest selling model, Inline 6 engine.

    The last inline 6 engine in luxury car, ahem BMW 530-535

    I hope BMW keeps making them.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,281
  • topspin628topspin628 Posts: 373
    After reading great reviews and ratings on the M series, I decided to test it. I first drove the BMW 535. It was very quick and solid. I then took an M35x out from another dealer.
    I found the electronics on the M to be superior but in driving dynamics it was a distant second. The steering feel was not there. The BMW was superior in terms of suspension and brakes. It also felt more solid- the doors were heavier etc.
    I'm sure that the M is a great value and that has to be part of its attraction. It's quick, reliable and offers all the tech goodies of the more expensive cars but to me the BMW experience was a level above, one that you certainly pay for.
    Just my 2 cents.
  • achonkoachonko Posts: 51
    It will be interesting to see how the 535i compares to the M35 and M45 in terms of performance and Comfort.
    My guess is that the 535i will give the M45 a run for it.
  • mmoreno1978mmoreno1978 Posts: 106
    I would like to see the M45 and 550i in a comparison test. I have seen the M35 beat out the 530i (both 6 cylinders), but haven't seen any tests with the 8 cylinder sport sedans. If anyone has a link, please post it. Would lke to know if Infiniti is also superiour with the more powerful engine.
  • bumpsbumps Posts: 4
    I drove both vehicles before finally purchasing the bmw. Altough I liked the "step on the peddle" performance of the Infinity a bit more than the BMW, there were things that just were simply better abouth the 530xi. It felt like a much more solid vehicle * the controls were more solid looking and feeling * the steering had a much better feel * the "sport" seats were superior * and I was able to get it with a 6-speed! As mentioned earlier, the only real 530xi drawback is it's lack of "kick in the rear" power. Anyone have any engine upgrade thoughts?
  • I MUST say, the 535xi is def on par with the M35x. BMW did a great job by giving the car more horsepower.

    I LOVE the M35x, but the 535xi was def fun to drive!

    I wish BMW would only make the car a little more luxurious looking (inside and out).
  • I MUST say, the 535xi is def on par with the M35x

    The question I am curious about is how the 535Xi compares to the forthcoming M45x.

    I have not followed the road tests in detail, but I thought I read somewhere (Edmonds?) where they posted a 0 - 60 time for the M45 of 6 seconds, while BMW claims the 0 - 60 time for the 535i/535Xi is less than 6 seconds.

    0 - 60 is only one small aspect of of a car's performance, and I'm not trying to claim one accelerates faster than the other per se, but if this one example is correct then they have comparable acceleration. If so, then that would indicate the 535Xi is more of a competitor to the M45x than the M35x.

    Thanks
    Bruce
  • bathelbathel Posts: 2
    I've driven the 528 and 535 BMW along with the M35 and M45.

    On pure performance, handling and feel... the 528 is more like the M35 but IMO better than the M35. The 535 is well beyond the M45 this area.

    If you look at features and value, the M35 and 45 win hands down.
  • Buyers who look at the M45 also look at the 550.

    V6 vs I6 and V8 vs V8

    In comparison test, the M45 outperformed the E500, 550i, Audi A6 and Lexus GS430

    Tough to compare the I6 to a car that beat BMW's 8 cylinder.

    Its just not far to BMW. The M45 is a different league.
  • The 528 is MUCH to slow to compare to the M35. Nice car. Just inferior.
  • Hahahaha......you have a great sense of humor!!
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