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Acura TSX vs Honda Accord vs Volkswagen Passat

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  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I rinse my wheels with water, then liberally spray them with P21S or similar cleanser (Griots, Poorboys, etc.). I let the cleaner soak for about 3 minutes, then I use a wet brush and scrub the wheels clean. One final rinse with water and my wheels are clean.
  • janljanl Posts: 3
    On my '03 Accord V6 gear shifter panel iluminating light stopped working. Couldn't find any info on it in the user manual. How do I replace this bulb? Honda dealer where I service my car tells me to forget it since my dashboard shows the gear info, but I'd like to fix it and not for a price they quote me. Help.
    Janl
  • bvdj84bvdj84 Posts: 1,721
    Washing your car and wheels frequently will prevent this from happening. Also keep in mind that now that you have used cleaners on the rim, make sure you put something that will repel and keep grime, water off them. The cleaners essentially have taken all of the layer of wax or repellent off the wheels. Even putting coat of wax on the wheels will help alot, then that way the brake dust will not stick. Think of your rim like the way of your cars paint. Try not to be abrasive, you will scratch or make them dull. Once clean, Wax or some kind of treatment, and then try not to physically touch them from then on, each touch potientially leaves marks on clear coat, just like the paint. Clay bar and waxes will help alot getting it off. Wash rims frequently.

    Just some tips, Good Luck!!
  • sammya_mdsammya_md Posts: 69
    I am probably in the minority here, because I choose the passat 2.0T....the TSX does nothing for my stylish wise, and you can't get any go out of the engine till you get upto the VTEC. If you are going to pay that much for a car, I would rather go another grand or 2 more and get a MB 230...yes no fancy sunroof etc, but you get german engineering and a more fun car to drive

    back to the passat 2.0t though....in a manual (who would want anything else), it is extremely quick..handles great and is unique....combine that with great incentives you cuold get now and a passat configured like a tsx feature wise would prob be cheaper..not to mention roomier and better on gas

    the v6 accord while reliable is just bland styling wise not to mention way way too common for me
  • blaneblane Posts: 2,017
    sammya_md,

    You mentioned the Passat and Mercedes 230 as being desireable due to their German engineering . That's all well and good, but the reliability problems that VW and Mercedes owners have widely reported in the past several years must also be considered. Your VW may have been satisfactory so far. But the statistics speak very loudly and I choose to read them carefully and spend my money as wisely as I can. No German cars for me until they improve their quality and reliability.

    You wrote "in a manual (who would want anything else)". Apparently, even though most of the vehicles that I've owned have been manuals, the statistics (There's that word again.) are clear. Only about 5% of US buyers want manual transmission automobiles.

    Style is in the eyes of the beholder. But I find the looks of the Passat to be quite "bland".
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Style is in the eyes of the beholder. But I find the looks of the Passat to be quite "bland".

    I'm actually with ya on that one blane. The previous Passat looked like a more expensive car than it actually was. The current one is the other way around.

    And, "German Engineering" is all I need to hear to know that I don't want that car. I need to spend time IN my car, not looking at it on a rack at the shop. I haven't driven, MB, but I have driven VW and Audi, and there was less responsive handling than I expected in both of these car brands (The Audi was an A4). I'm going into a field of work in which I'll likely not make a lot of money for starters, and I don't need to spend all my dough on repairs, something my friend with the VW has done ($2,200 by 40k miles).
  • sammya_mdsammya_md Posts: 69
    I realize no one in the US wants a manual, or few people. I love them, but see why people don't want to fuss with them. I was joking saying who wouldn't want one.

    People have bad experiences with all types of cars. I am just saying the difference in the ride between a camry and the passat I got were completely different. I went straight to the VW dealership afterwards.

    We'll see how the reliability is for the new passat generation in a few years, but I will continue to enjoy my car.

    That's the thing about cars, everyone has their own opinions. I'm attempting to share mine and the reasons for going VW
  • Help me please to make a decision. I am a normally conservative 55 year old man moving to the LA area and I want to buy a new car, for a very short commute to work and long exploration drives on weekends. I want a fun car, and I want to keep it for many years. I am not good at self maintenance at all. I will use dealer maintenance. I have read horror stories on this forum about VW maintenance and reliability. Still, I am considering a VW against an Acura.

    I am down to a decision between an Acura TXS with Nav and a Passat 2.0 Turbo with Nav as my new car.

    On paper, by my own criteria the Acura wins hands down: better reliability ratings, a little cheaper, built-in bluetooth, just as luxurious, I even like the slightly smaller size. Also, the Acura will need less maintenance, with oil change every 10,000 miles (vs 5000) and no tune up for 100,000 miles, and thus total cost of ownership will be lower for Acura.

    On the side of the Passat, I come up with only 3 tangible positives to list: Parking Assist (which I like), a smaller turning circle and a slightly more responsive engine from a dead stop.

    So why am I even still considering a Passat? I don't know. Help me cure my madness someone, please. For some reason I do like the Passat, but I can't define it (and thus I am afraid it will go away once I buy). Maybe it is the rebel in me, I have never chosen a car that "didn't make sense" before.

    Stop me before its too late! Or else defend the Passat. Please, folks, comments please?

    Ron Stephens
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    if you want praise for the passat you should post in that forum. I do not know anything about that car but I can write that I love my 06 Milano red/eb 6 spd with nav tsx, bought new 11/17/06. it has 33,000+miles, is very comfortable riding car with alot of goodies and gets great gas mileage. I do mostly highway driving.
  • Thank you nj2pa2nc. I am looking for feedback on both sides of the equation. Even though I like the Passat, I also like the Acura. I want to make a good decision. I hope to hear from lovers of both cars.

    Ron
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    This discussion is listed under the Passat and the TSX (which is how we list all comparos), so the original poster has indeed posted in the Passat forum. :)

    The poster is looking for feedback, not necessarily "praise", for both cars, so your input is very helpful.
  • I recently purchased a 2008 Acura TSX with Navigation. I originally wanted to
    purchase a VW Eos (wanted a convertible) and went so far as to get pricing
    quotes: The Eos isn't exactly a Passat, but I believe it shares some common
    components: 2.0 turbo engine & transmission. The car was fun to drive and I
    liked the engine and DSG transmission, but what killed the purchase was the
    dismal VW reliability ratings and even worse dealer service rating for VW.

    I switched gears and considered Volvo S40, Audi A4 & the TSX. I also think
    the Audi A4 2.0 turbo engine is similar to VW's (same company). Very fun car
    to drive, but from the Audi forums, it seems to spend a lot of time in the
    service dept. Also more expensive when considering features. The TSX
    simply seemed to be a bargain considering all it comes with.

    As a final note, a good friend of mine owns a Passat with 150000+ miles on it -
    mid 1990's, I think - and he told me that he had a lot of reliability issues with
    his car over the years and felt I'd made a good choice with the Acura.

    What you may like about the Passat is the European design that I liked a lot
    about the style/interior of the Eos/Audi/Volvo. But I think the TSX is a
    tremendous value and the style has grown on me and it is very nice to drive.
  • bpitt1bpitt1 Posts: 6
    I owned a 2006 Passat 2.0t sedan for 15 months; while I loved driving it, I did not love the amount of time it spent at the dealer for recalls and other issues. I initially considered the TSX, but decided to get the Passat since it was larger and less expensive (although a comparably equipped Passat is more expensive than the TSX), and liked the way it drove vs. the TSX.

    All said, I traded it in on a 2008 Passat Wagon (lease). I'm hoping the 2008 has all the bugs worked out. If I had wanted another sedan, however, I would have gone with the TL or the new Accord, which is a lot of car for the money).

    If you are interested in keeping your car beyond the warranty timeframe, definitely go with the Acura. Resale value is also going to be better on the Acura/ Honda.

    One other perk with Acura service: loaner cars! VW won't give you one unless the car is deemed mechanically dangerous to operate.

    My final opinion... even though I love the way my Passat drives, it sounds like you should go with the Acura (although I'd really suggest you test drive the new accord V6... tons more power than the TSX, more space than the TL , AND takes regular unleaded vs. 91+.) Good luck!
  • Passat vs TSX is comparing apples and oranges:

    Acura is a near luxury / luxury brand. VW is not.

    Acura's competitors: Audi, Volvo, Lexus, Saab, Mercedes, BMW, Infiniti

    VW's competitors: Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc.

    Acura's level of service tends to be better - especially if they want to keep pace with said competitors.
  • bpitt1bpitt1 Posts: 6
    That may be, but the guy has asked for opinions comparing the two. (While VW might be in the same ballpark, there isn't a Honda, Toyota or Nissan that handles like the VW does).

    While Acura may be a luxury brand, the TSX is an Accord at heart. The Passat feels more like a luxury brand in ride, handling, power than the TSX , but a navi-equipped Passat costs the same or more than the Acura, so the trade-off will always be Acura reliability and service vs. Passat's Germanic driving experience. All said, I think the Acura or Honda will be better for him since he wants to keep the car for the long haul. In my opinion the new Accord is more car for the $ than the TSX and is still reliable, just don't expect free loaners from Honda...
  • nj2pa2ncnj2pa2nc Posts: 813
    when I owned my 05 civic the dealer provided me with free loaner cars when I took the car there for service. Many honda dealers do have free loaner cars.
  • gregd1gregd1 Posts: 38
    I was looking at the same.
    The Passat has a lot more back seat room.
    The TSX has:
    Rear Leg Room: 34.2 in.

    And the Passat has:
    Rear Leg Room: 37.7 in.

    That is a huge difference. Between being able to let a full grown adult in the back seat. And only being able to put a bag in the back seat.

    I wish the TSX would add 3 inches to the back seat.
  • greatcarsgreatcars Posts: 66
    How different will that feel between the 200 HP on Passat and 207 HP on TSX? The 207 TSX has to be gained at much higher engine speed.
  • greatcarsgreatcars Posts: 66
    3.5 inch will make big diffenrence on the sitting. However, the measure is not accurate and also depends on how they measure them. Of course the Passat has more space than the TSX.
  • gregd1gregd1 Posts: 38
    Yes, I also wonder how they get the leg room.
    Is the seat all the way forward? Or all the way back? To measure.

    Acura has a great warranty. And great cars. I wish they would add some space in the back seat. Just a little :cry:

    TL:
    Rear Leg Room: 34.9 in.

    TSX:
    Rear Leg Room: 34.2 in.
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