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2013 and earlier Lexus RX 350 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • conkevconkev Posts: 7
    I purchased a 2013 AWD Lexus RX 350 two weeks ago from Motor City Lexus in Bakersfield CA. MSRP was $49,300. The final agreed purchase price for the vehicle was $45,000 with the 5,10,15, and 20K mile check. That is two more maintenance checks than what Lexus provides. Options on the car include: Navigation, 19" rims, heated and ventilated front seats, parking assist, and other misc options. What it doesn't have: rear DVD system, heads up display, and blind monitoring assist. I think I got a good deal after reading the other comments posted. This is the first Lexus purchased and I can say the dealership was awesome. I have never been treated so well at a dealership. Never! At 51 years old, I have purchased many cars/trucks in my life and I have never had such a pleasant experience purchasing a vehicle. I had to play two dealerships against each other to get the price I paid. It took one week.
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    You got a nice deal.

    Can you tell us what tires are on it, and is it FWD ?
  • conkevconkev Posts: 7
    The Lexus RX 350 is AWD. The tires are 19" Dunlap Grandtrex Touring A/S
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    Thx. I'm just curious what brands they are showing up with around the West and SW.
  • lexusrx350newlexusrx350new Posts: 18
    edited August 2012
    When I purchased my new 2013 lexus rx 350 a few weeks back, I included the michelin tires in the deal instead of the stock bridgestone tires. The dealer said he is not familiar with this type of request and now, I see you are like me! The dealer gave me the michelins when taking delivery of the car and mentioned that michelins come only in the nav cars. Non-navs come with bridgestone or other brands. Bridgestones and michelins cost almost the same but i know that the michelin drive is going to be very different from the bridgestones and so insisted on it.
  • conkevconkev Posts: 7
    I didnt even think to negotiate a tire change when I bought my RX 350 AWD. I wish I had requested to change the Dunlap tires for Michelins. Oh well. When the Dunlaps wear out, I might replace with Michelin tires.
  • I told them flat out that if i dont get the michelins although my car is non-nav, I am not buying the car. if i dont get the tire and wheel protection package free, i am not buying the car. the first thing that i checked when i went for delivery is michelins and then the tire and wheel protection on the papers.
  • valueguyvalueguy Posts: 208
    My 2013 RX 350 was NAV vehicle. It still came with crappy Dunlop tires. IMHO, the Michelin tires are worth every one of $400 dollars over those Dunlops. I got the Michelin tires at NO ADDITIONAL COST so why not demand the swap? Instead, the Dunlop tires make any deal at least $400 different if one must get the Dunlop tires (in my opinion anyway).

    That said, with AWD I would consider an additional $400 as compensation in any deal for getting Dunlop tires. On a FWD Lexus the Dunlop tires are unacceptable at any price (at least here in Florida where wet traction means life or death on the road). DO NOT ACCEPT DUNLOP TIRES ON A FWD RX 350.
  • lexusrx350newlexusrx350new Posts: 18
    edited August 2012
    Make sure that someone checked the alignment and balancing after they swapped the tires. It wont be noticeable in the beginning but over time, you will realize that your tires are wearing unevenly and/or vibrating and by that time, its too late. I got mine checked after the tire swap and found an issue that needs to be corrected with the alignment/balancing. Its a trade off i guess, good tires but not factory aligned OR factory aligned but bad tires... lol.. There are a few internet posts that suggest that the bridgestones are better than the latitudes but tirerack still shows the michelins at 7.6 rating vs the bridgestones at 5.1 rating. Some posts suggest that the pilots are better than the latitudes and that the latitudes are junk and so, its all subjective. Cost of michelins and bridgestones is the same.

    Do you have a light color interior like parchment or a dark interior like black? Reason for my question is how can i maintain my parchment interior like new without stains. Its so easy to get stains on this light color.
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    edited August 2012
    Tires:

    Also, there is no manufacture's tread wear warranty at all on the Dunlop Grand Trek Touring A/S.

    What is wrong with Lexus, putting a Tire with no warranty on a $45-50000.00 luxury car ???

    The Michellin Lattitude and Pilot have a 55000 or 50000 mile warranty.

    Bridgestone has a warranty, but not sure what.
  • valueguyvalueguy Posts: 208
    edited August 2012
    I've gotten new tires on wheels before on cars after purchase. An alignment is usually unnecessary if all you do is change out the wheels/tires. A wheel balance may be indicated but not always.

    A wheel balance costs about $30-40 at your local tire shop. If you need a wheel balance then the cost of this service ($40) is far less than the cost of a Michelin tire upgrade from the Dunlop tires.

    My new Michelin tires run smoothly on my RX 350 but I will keep an eye out if they need a balance at 5,000 miles. This simple item can be performed during the first tire roatation.

    I would not let the small possibility of a $75 alignment (not likely when swapping out identical wheels and sized tires) or a $40 Wheel balance (more likely) prevent you from requesting Michelin tires on your brand new RX 350.
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    edited August 2012
    For others perhaps just joining this thread, that I think Valueguy started:

    If you go to TireRack.com, and bring up the Dunlop GrandTouring A/S 235/55r/19
    and read the numerous reviews there, you will see a majority needing to replace at around 22000-25000, and most claim they do the rotations and recommended care. And there is no adjustment for those folks, since NO warranty on wear, by Dunlop.

    Lots of variables of course on how each drives a car, understood, but, for Dunlop to have NO warranty (mileage) tread, I think we can see what's going on there.

    And, that tire(Dunlop) is listed at $195 each, installed, in the SW here, by Discount Tire. Hard to believe.

    Why is Lexus putting a bunch of those on 2010- 2013 Rx 's ? Expense deal no doubt.
  • lexusrx350newlexusrx350new Posts: 18
    edited August 2012
    Agreed, in your case specifically, cant go with dunlops as the drive will not be close to a michelin smooth drive in my opinion. Alignment and balancing factors should not affect getting michelins particularly if you are getting no warranty dunlops. I would not have bought my rx if the dealer was not willing to swap the stock bridgestones with michelins although the bridgestones are better than dunlops and come with warranty. The alignment issue if any, is ok compared to not getting michelins.
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    edited August 2012
    I couldn't believe it either, as I don't think I've heard of a name brand tire, with Zero warranty on tread wear.

    I specifically called Discount Tire, the Real Manager, whose has been here 15 years, and asked if that was true, and he did indeed confirm it to be true. So, I then called Costco, and asked the same question and also got the same answer. Both places said Lexus went with that tire because it was supposed to be extra quiet...even though no tread warranty . I don't buy that, or else they would put all their cars with it... ? I don't think so. They knew it had no warranty, but threw in on a few to keep the complaints down. It's probably a very soft tire..thus wears easily ?

    And, there is the buyer who replaces his car every two years, or one year leases, etc. No complaints there as those folks turn the car in and walk away. And folks who don't drive much, like we have here in my city.

    By the way, when checking with the tire places, I did state, Dunlop GrandTrek Touring A/S 19 inch, 235/55R/19 . I can't speak for their 18 version on the Lexus RX 2010-2013 350/FWD or AWD as I didn't ask on that one.

    By the way, both places as well as Tire Rack, confirmed. Lexus shows these at all three places, as replacement tires, as well as the Michelins, Lattitudes, Pilots, and Bridgestones.

    Note:

    It's important to know here, for those that do have the Dunlops, that there is NO known safety issue here at all.

    None of the reviews had any remarks about blowouts, or other safety issues. This is just about a non- warranty on tread wear on these tires. And the fact, Lexus put a cheaper brand tire on a very popular Luxury car in their line when there were other better brands with warranties available to them for all their cars.
  • tonycatonyca Posts: 12
    Hello All:

    I got an offer for RX350 FWD with PD FT 3T WU NV HS PA plus ZI Accessory. MSRP is $48,494 and their offer is $43,756 plus TTL, so the discount is $4,738. I know overland you got MSRP $47,974 one for $42,783 ($46,357 with TTL) with discount $5,191.

    How do you guys think about this offer and how much room can I negotiate?

    Thanks.
  • I have an offer of 43,300 for a 2013 awd Lexus display audio pkg, heated an ventilated seats,intuitive parking assist,premium pkg,cargo mat cargo net and wheel locks MSRP 46,430 is this a good deal?
  • valueguyvalueguy Posts: 208
    1. You guys are getting great deals on these RX350s. It was like pulling teeth getting $3500-$4000 off a $49,000 MSRP RX 350. Anyone getting $4500-$5200 off is a superstar and should be buying my next car.

    2. My 2010 RX 350 with Michelin Tires that had over 50,000 miles on them drove better in the sun and the rain than the brand new Dunlop tires. When we swapped them out for new Michelin tires even my wife noticed the difference immediately.

    3. Please notice how helpful our real world info/cost is compared to TruCar or Edmunds. We now know TruCar isn't a reliable site any longer for invoice.
    Dealers have solved this problem by having 2 invoice price lists. One for the public and one one where Manufacturers directly rebate the dealer for each car sold (not listed anywhere, secret info).
  • tonycatonyca Posts: 12
    1. I am still checking with the dealer what brand tire for this offer, though in Southern CA it may be not a big problem. But I still prefer Michelin since it carries a warranty. I will figure all those out and then head for my new car. I am thinking of squeezing $5,000. Currently it is $4,500 discount and I still need to play the game with them a little.

    2. Yes you are right what TrueCar calls a great price is no longer a great price. Better you come to this bulltin and find out something from other buyers.

    3. I also tried to use Costco program but it sucks. The dealer called me and said I have to go to their store and they won't offer a price if I don't go there. If the price is only valid if I take it immediately and is not valid if I step out of the dealership.
  • nazzy100nazzy100 Posts: 82
    Have you seen this particular car or is this all on the phone ?

    Do you have the vin number from the Dealer ?
  • tonycatonyca Posts: 12
    Not yet. I don't want to go there before it comes close to what it should be. But they did send me something similar to window sticker.
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