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Mercury Mariner Hybrid

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  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,811
    "Anyone know why, I think there may be some thermostat associated with the motor to keep it warm. any thoughts. "

    This is a common issue with hybrids. The batteries are less efficient in cold weather, and the engine has to keep the catalytic converter heated up. The combination causes the hybrid to perform less efficiently in cold conditions.

    "Also for those out there wonder why they are hard to find, I am guess that since the IRS said they were only giving for 65,000 tax credits they will not make more than that"

    Not quite. Everyone gets the tax credit until 6 months after Ford sells 60K total hybrids. That means that tens of thousands of people could get the credit. I'm sure Toyota had over 150K people get the credit. The credit goes down after the six months, then further down for another six months, and expires one year after Ford reaches a total of 65K hybrids.
  • Can sombody tell me why Ford didn't include a water temperature and oil pressure indicator on a $30K automobile? :(
  • Sitting after 9 hours since last use. A total loss. Beware!! Well maintained, no warning lights, drove fine 9 hrs before. Fire started in cargo area and flames began out of the battery vent! Beware!!! I loved this car but no more hybrids for us until they have safer battery types! Same as Ford Escapes. Beware!!
  • I hate mine. Wish it would explode. There was a recall on the battery wiring harness, did you have that done? They kept the car for two days on me while doing that.

    Consider yourself lucky no one was hurt and go buy a Toyota.

    Loved the rental they gave me, a brand new F-150. Would have kept that in a heartbeat.
  • Drove a new MMH home yesterday and got 40.2 mpg according to the onboard computer, which was reset and zeroed out prior to the drive. Perfect conditions for good mileage: temperature at 80F and traffic flow at 40-45 mph for the most part. 25 mile trip.
  • mel352mel352 Posts: 1
    I'm buying a Mercury Mariner Hybrid and Ford/Mercury has this Premium Maintenance Plan. It's Basically 5 or 6 years of prepaid maintenance that saves you about 35%. I know someone else that has it and loves it. Is anyone else familiar with it or have any thoughts about it? Thanks,
  • Hi, I read your post.The dealer even looked it up and said it is Satellite capable....Beware if you want Satellite. Also, the navigation system is very awkward and difficult to use, unlike the system in say their Mountaineer which is great. FORD BLEW IT ON THIS.Have a nice day.. :lemon:

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  • i have a 2008 mercury mariner hybrid 2 wheel drive and the last 4 weeks i have only averaged 21-22 mpg in town which is a BIG drop from the 29-31 mpg i was getting since july. does anyone know why, except the batteries.
    the local ford dealership told me i just have to except it during the cold weather???

    i want to hear from other hybrid owners and see what you are getting mpg, i live in lawrence kansas and it has been cold here the last 2 weeks. but average highs are in the 30s normally.
  • yes i just started dealing with the local mercury dealer about my MPG and the general manager for the dealership told me i just have to except the MPG in the winter time. i got up and told him Bull Crap, i can see a drop of a mile or two during the winter time, but not 8-9 mph??
  • Most of the year I obtain 26-32 mpg with my 2008 AWD Mariner Hybrid. However in January the mileage has dropped below 26 to 25 mpg. Your mileage of 21-22 seems very low. I understand the loss in battery efficiency due to cold weather, but your drop is too much. There may be something else going on...
  • I live in South Florida where it does not ever drop below 50 degrees. The highest I have EVER gotten is around 25, it usually sits around 21 - 23 MPH, and this time of year I do not use the a/c and am light on the foot. Its all part of my disappointment with this vehicle. Then Ford says "Oh Well, some do good some don't". I have driven Fords all my life, this Mariner is my last because of their attitude more than anything else. They wonder why they are losing money, its things like this and he original problems when I bought the vehicle. See http://www.marinerhybrid.net/ for that whole story.

    John
  • How did you get the address to contact Alan Mulally?
    i have a 2008 mariner hybrid and the last 4 weeks my mpg has dropped from 29-31 to 22-23. the dealership just wants us to except it due to the cold weather, i can see some drop with the weather but not this much.
  • bigtbigt Posts: 413
    Someone said something about gasoline reformation during the winter. My Licoln MKZ has dropped about 3-5 mpg since the winter started.

    BTW: Sorry to hear about the Navigation system in the MHH because the Nav in the MKZ is first-rate. You would think they would have shared this across the vehicles since it cost about the same.
  • All gas in the Mid-Atlantic gets reformulated (not reformation) during the winter months to reduce the amount of pollutants, which don't get dispelled as quickly during the cold of winter with standard gasoline. This is required by the EPA. They blend in varying amounts of ethanol, which burns cleaner but reduces you gas milage. Since we just bought our MMH last month, I'm waiting to see how well it does in the spring when things warm up and they change the gas back to a normal formulation, which I think happens in April.

    I never saw the Nav system in the MMH 06/07 variants, but it was supposed to be pretty clunky. The Nav system in the 2008's is first rate, except for the annoying fact that the information entry is pretty restricted when you're underway. You can't enter a destination address once you're in drive. What an irritating big-brother kind of restriction!
    JRG
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    I don't pay attention to "American" cars too often but I thought I'd give this Mercury (or its Ford equivalent) a look. I saw a couple of them on the road but they're nowhere to be found as far as dealer stocks go. I recall they couldn't give the last model away. Are they this hot now or did Ford just go GM's way where they produce a very limited number of alternatives, so they can advertise their other hogs in the green context?

    Is my only realistic choice a Toyota which sells a ton but it also seems to keep their dealers well-supplied?
  • fomoconafomocona Posts: 19
    I don't think it's a form of big brother watching. Ford and other manufacturers must consider government guidelines in many design decisions. This is particularly true for navigation system features that may be distracting to drivers while the vehicle is in motion. That's why most if not all the vehicles sold in the US with a factory installed navigation system will not allow destination input while the vehicle is moving. Often pro-active, voluntary compliance avoids even stricter government mandates.
  • I disagree...I think they do it to avoid a lawsuit in case one has an accident while trying to program it. ESPECIALLY if they have the awful 2006 system that I have. That very navigation system is the reason I will NEVER AGAIN EVER own another Ford Product. In addition to not putting a piece of junk into the vehicle, they should make it programmable for the passenger if there is one there, after all they already have a sensor in the seat that deactivates the airbag.

    In case its so far back in the strong read this website (Mine) about my Mariner experience. Also I have never gotten over 23 mph in this vehicle and as a 59 year old driver I am very light on the Gas/electric.

    http://www.marinerhybrid.net/

    I have owned Fords exclusively since I started driving back in the 60's. Their Loss, my next car will be a Lexus.
  • johndix60johndix60 Posts: 21
    It sounds like you did not evaluate the Nav system as part of your test drive checklist on the 2006 mariner Hybrid. Tough to complain about an option whose performance attributes ( negative though they may be ) were in front of you prior to purchase.
  • weibelweibel Posts: 4
    :) I purchased a 2008 Mariner Hybrid and I couldn't be more satisfied with the sat radio and navigation system. Agreed it would be nice if the passenger could program while in motion but to me that is no big deal! i guess you really shouldn't blame anyone but yourself for not taking greater care in choosing before purchasing the vehicle.

    Anyway, i love mine!!!
  • baysailorbaysailor Posts: 15
    I also gotta add my vote, and say that the system installed in the 2008 models is very good indeed. My point of comparison is the factory installed model in my 00 BMW, which uses CD (8 for the US & Canada) and isn't nearly as fast in recomputing your position, or as complete in offerings. Only downside of the Ford model is the data-entry lockout when you're underway, which seems to be consistent across several brands, which forces you to pull over. It's not a big deal.
    Cheers,
    JRG
  • Ok, I guess I was not real clear on my problems, I'll try and keep it simple and to the point. I bought this car sight unseen because while 300 miles from home the computer in my Lincoln LS fried. Although under warantee they said it would take weeks to get it, then I would have to drive back with the rental they had already given me. I was told by the dealer that the Nav system was the same as in the Mountaineer (First Lie) then 2nd the STICKER on the vehicle which I still have said SATELLITE COMPATIBLE, plus PLAYS MP3's, (LIES BY FORD) I waited hours for the dealship to obtain this vehicle then found out days later after already being disappointed by the AWFUL nav system, that it was indeed NOT SATELLITE compatible (Ford told me this was a printing error). They did buy me an aftermarket sattelite radio but it sounds terrible. Also, this same window sticker said IN DASH 6 CD Player. ANOTHER LIE, the 6 CD player is under the passenger seat.

    THEN, the WORST thing they did was to release within 6 months TWO model years of this vehicle correcting all the problems but refusing to do anything for me. They could have put a 2008 nav/sat system in my dash and I would have been happy.

    In fairness to Ford, I have not had one problem per se with the vehicle outside of the fact it gets nowhere near the advertised mileage. Their response to that was "Some get good mileage, some do not".

    I HATE the vehicle, not because its a bad one, because of the LIES by Ford and the unwillingness to correct some very big screw ups. I would have waited for my Lincolns part had I known I was going to go through all of this. SHAME ON FORD, and they wonder why they are losing customers to foreign vehicles.
  • I dropped by a Ford dealer today to ask about their Escape Hybrid as a poss. replacement for my wife's '01 minivan. A manager told me the one (1) Hybrid on his entire lot was "the last Ford Escape Hybrid in the entire state of Florida". I repeated his answer like I do to my 6 year old after telling an obvious lie... He said that after California's problems (I did not have time to further qualify the "problems" he mentioned), the entire country was shipping Hybrids west. He continued that Toyota had started it and Ford followed suit to protect market share (ever the follower). I still find it hard to believe, hence the reason I'm doing research on them now, and cannot seem to find any dealers with hybrid stock locally. I agree w/ many of the other folks' comments... I'd prefer a Lexus or Toyota, but cannot swing additional $15K to $20K.
  • Ford or a dealer Lie? Nah Never happen.....He must have just overlooked the several that are on the lot at the local Ford Dealer here in Fort Lauderdale (Found them on the net) or the dealer in Delray....Hmmmmm, and a friend of mine that just bought a Toyota Hybrid, bet he got the last Toyota in the state of Florida.

    Lawyers, Car Salesmen, Politicians, all of the same cloth. I don't understand WHY they think they have to lie to make a sale.

    He should have pointed out the good points about it, such as it dosen't have the crappy Nav system that the 2006 did, and that it now is indeed Satellite compatible.
  • cracoviancracovian Posts: 337
    What I don't understand is why they won't make more of it if it sells so well? Isn't that a foundation of capitalism? Ford Sr. would have been upset :-)
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,018
    A reporter hopes to speak with consumers who want to buy hybrid SUVs that are having a hard time finding them at dealerships and/or are frustrated by dealers marking up the prices on the hybrids. If you are a consumer looking to purchase a hybrid SUV, please respond to ctalati@edmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than Tuesday, March 25, 2008.

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  • testestestes Posts: 13
    Does the 08 have the same problem as the 06? If the defroster is turned on (control in red) then the ICE will not turn off... I still get 32 in MA with 27000 miles on the Sprout. I have to manually manage the defroster needs.
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 551
    I think it is the same as the 06. However, I suggest you post your concern in the Ford Escape Hybrid area. Probably more respondents there.
  • gwmortgwmort Posts: 22
    Hello, I just bought a 2008 FWD Mercury Mariner. We're very pleased with the car. Dealer stock was very limited here in Delaware, ended up going to a dealership an hour away, which only had one. We traded in a Chrysler Pacifica, losing the third row seats but gaining about 12 mpg in efficiency. Over the first 150 miles our AVERAGE is 31.2 mpg (rural suburban driving).
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,811
    "Does the 08 have the same problem as the 06? If the defroster is turned on (control in red) then the ICE will not turn off... I still get 32 in MA with 27000 miles on the Sprout. I have to manually manage the defroster needs."

    That is not a problem, that is the way the FEH / MMH are designed. The A/C compressor has to run when the defrost is selected, and the compressor requires the ICE to operate. Using either of the two "orange" HVAC selections is the same as turning on A/C without ECON.
  • darvv1ndarvv1n Posts: 5
    Car salesmen do not lie near as much as buyers do. There is a saying in the car business, "buyers are liars" 95 percent of the time they are trying to bite off more than they can choose. Oh i have to go talk to the wife, oh we will be back, here is my phone number (oops they gave us the wrong number), I will do business today at those numbers, then they leave!! the list is countless. I have been doing this for 5 years and there is no need to lie to sell a car. the truth will find its way out in the end. if you are honest to them and treat them right they will come back and buy more and more cars. which my customer's do. but for the ones i don't sell. its because they have lied or try to purchase a vehicle thats not in their budget and are insecure to say that they can't afford it. Or they say they have perfect credit and have a 393 beacon score. who are the liars now? :P
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